Which cast farther: Booyah Pad Crasher or Spro 65 Frog?

[tcbass]

The Spro frog is 2.5" long and weighs 5/8oz. The Booyah Pad Crasher is also 2.5" long but weighs only 1/2oz. It is not a massive weight difference but could it make a difference in casting distance? 

 

The reason I'm asking is that I need to find the best frog for my Homemade Teckel Sprinker Frogs. My homemade frogs use a real Teckel Sprinker Frog replacement tail and I attach it with a size 4 three-way swivel. 

 

I used the Spro to great success, many bites and I think only 2 that I didn't boat. However, the frog did need to be squeezed of water quite a few times. It did cast a country mile though. 

 

I tried a Homemade Teckel Sprinker Frog today but I used a Booyah Pad Crasher instead of a Spro. What was nice about the Booyah was that I didn't have to squeeze it if water once and it worked well at all speeds with the real Teckel Sprinker Frog tail just like the Spro did. However, it didn't seem to cast nearly as far.

 

Note: this is with both frogs having no water in them and using the same rod and reel. 

 

 

Could the minute difference in weight between the Spro and Booyah cause the Booyah to not cast as far or was it just my casting today?

[Tim Kelly]

I expect the water trapped in the spro added considerably to the casting weight. I expect it didn't cast as far when you'd just squeezed it.

[Bluebasser86]

1/2oz should cast as far as you'd ever need to. 

[tander]

I throw my Booyah PC further than I really need to. Are you throwing it on braid ?

[J Francho]

A Teckel Honker will probably go furthest.

[tcbass]

3 hours ago, tander said:

I throw my Booyah PC further than I really need to. Are you throwing it on braid ?

 

 

Yes. 

 

 

And I'm talking about throwing when both have no water in them. 

[Choporoz]

I have frogs of at least four different makes.  Dialed in on right rod/line, I can cast every one of them farther than I am comfortable about getting a good hook set.

[Jaderose]

Try a Scumfrog Trophy Series.  I can throw those waaaaay farther than a Pad Crasher.

[CroakHunter]

You answered your own question.

[tcbass]

2 hours ago, CroakHunter said:

You answered your own question.

 

What's the answer?

[CroakHunter]

On 10/19/2017 at 2:25 AM, tcbass said:

However, it didn't seem to cast nearly as far.

 

You said the booyah didn't cast as far, meaning the spro casts further.

[tcbass]

1 hour ago, CroakHunter said:

You said the booyah didn't cast as far, meaning the spro casts further.

 

 

O. lol. Well, there could be other variables, wind and what not. I was just wondering what other people's experiences are. If I had my Spro I would have thrown it the same fishing trip to compare but I gave it to a friend so that he could catch some fish. lol

[bigbill]

I can cast a 5/8oz topnocker using my 7’ spinning rod with excaliber silver thread copolymere 8lb test line farther than anyone else near me. I owe it to the copolymere line and length of the rod. Distance wise I don’t have good hooksets at that distance nor can I control the basses movements. I can’t hold there heads up on the bigger bass. Fishing from shore distance matters sometimes. But it’s taking a chance. 

[Tara-senko]

I think and have experienced that the problem is usually the person casting due to the reel dialed In Wrong or poor casting abilitys, I've used both and went with booyah pretty quick. I could absolutely launch both frogs probably nearly identical distances. 

 

Cream of the crop below

 

 

 

[Boomstick]

I never really thought too terribly much about casting distances with frogs, as usually I can hit my target. The difference might depend on your reel and how it's setup as much as the difference in weight.

[J Francho]

I'd be more concerned with how the bait behaves than how far you can cast it. 

[tcbass]

27 minutes ago, J Francho said:

I'd be more concerned with how the bait behaves than how far you can cast it. 

 

I'm using these frogs to make Homemade Teckel Sprinker frogs, so they are basically a straight back retrieve. They've both proven to work well as homemade sprinker frogs, so distance is more important.

[J Francho]

Distance would have more to do with using the right rod for each.  I could probably cast both equally as far.  Too far to set the hook.  Distance is a rookie's game.  Location is where you get bit.  Or, you could just get both, and see which YOU can fling farther.  I doubt it matters which you use to make the bait.

[tcbass]

12 hours ago, J Francho said:

Distance would have more to do with using the right rod for each.  I could probably cast both equally as far.  Too far to set the hook.  Distance is a rookie's game.  Location is where you get bit.  Or, you could just get both, and see which YOU can fling farther.  I doubt it matters which you use to make the bait.

 

 

Well, I'm definitely a rookie. I'm no pro. 

 

 

I get bit plenty, it's hooking them that's the problem. I have no problem throwing my homemade Teckel frogs super far and catching fish on the landing. Seems when they bite that they hook themselves even if it's a maximum distance cast.

[J Francho]

9 hours ago, tcbass said:

 

 

Well, I'm definitely a rookie. I'm no pro. 

 

 

I get bit plenty, it's hooking them that's the problem. I have no problem throwing my homemade Teckel frogs super far and catching fish on the landing. Seems when they bite that they hook themselves even if it's a maximum distance cast.

Definitely avid, and not a rookie.  You're making your own baits!

 

I am completely confused by the second statement, though.  Hooking them is a problem, but they hook themselves?  And you can cast them far?  So, what is the problem we're trying to solve.  We've already established that both can go pretty far, with the right setup.

[tcbass]

22 minutes ago, J Francho said:

Definitely avid, and not a rookie.  You're making your own baits!

 

I am completely confused by the second statement, though.  Hooking them is a problem, but they hook themselves?  And you can cast them far?  So, what is the problem we're trying to solve.  We've already established that both can go pretty far, with the right setup.

 

The homemade Teckel frogs have nearly a 100% hook up ratio with only 2-3 misses that I recall. The actual real Teckel frog is like a .01% hook up ratio with only 1 fish caught on many hits. So, the homemade frogs are definitely the best.

 

The homemade Teckel frog using the Spro 65 can cast super far, and when fish hit it, even at it's maximum distance far away from the boat the fish are almost always boated. Haven't had a bite on the homemade version using the Booyah and the Booyah seems to cast about 2/3's the distance.

 

Avid...nice!

[J Francho]

I gues you answered your own question the proper way: test it yourself.

 

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[tcbass]

2 minutes ago, J Francho said:

I gues you answered your own question the proper way: test it yourself.

 

/thread

 

 

I did though, and that's when I found out that the Booyah Pad Crasher casts less.....which it really shouldn't. So, I'm going to have to do some more testing. lol. 

[Scarborough817]

16 minutes ago, tcbass said:

 

 

I did though, and that's when I found out that the Booyah Pad Crasher casts less.....which it really shouldn't. So, I'm going to have to do some more testing. lol. 

why shouldn't it the bait weighs less than the spro

[J Francho]

7 minutes ago, Scarborough817 said:

why shouldn't it the bait weighs less than the spro

Aerodynamics can play a role, though not in this case.  As can the actual rod and reel you use, again not in this case.