1simplemann Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 With this no info rule, Britt Myers doesn't win at Winyah Bay last year. He even thanked the local guys that helped him. BP could easily have researched earlier tournaments to find out where they were won. I have to agree with you RichF, there's no way MM finds a canal 200 miles away without some help. This new rule should level the playing field a bit. 1 Quote
Super User Gundog Posted October 20, 2017 Super User Posted October 20, 2017 I think the "no info" rule is long over due. I've read for over a decade how pros would have uncles/brothers/friends fishing for the pro to find fish. I always considered it unsportsmanlike. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted October 20, 2017 BassResource.com Administrator Posted October 20, 2017 What, exactly, is the "no info" rule? Can you post it? Quote
RichF Posted October 20, 2017 Author Posted October 20, 2017 https://www.bassmaster.com/news/bass-extends-no-info-rule-elites-and-classic Basically some additions to the rules already in place. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 20, 2017 Super User Posted October 20, 2017 The XPress Hyper-Lift aluminum bass boats are technically a tunnel hull. Tom Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 20, 2017 Super User Posted October 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, WRB said: The XPress Hyper-Lift aluminum bass boats are technically a tunnel hull. Not by any stretch of the imagination. That is a pad hull, the same as any glass boat. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 20, 2017 Super User Posted October 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, J Francho said: Not by any stretch of the imagination. That is a pad hull, the same as any glass boat. It's a pad hull with tunnels according to thier literature, agree it's not a true center tunnel hull. So does the Hyper-Lift fall under this new rule? Tom Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 20, 2017 Super User Posted October 20, 2017 I have no idea. I OWNED a Hyperlift. It's a pad-V hull. There are no tunnels on it. There are reverse strakes for better straight line tracking that aren't in the water when you are on plane. I have no idea what BASS's ruling would be. I do no that my Bullet drafted shallower than my Xpress, so it's any ad https://xpressboats.com/hyper-lift-series/ Shows a good picture of the hull. Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 20, 2017 Super User Posted October 20, 2017 I knew you owned the Xpress. What got my attention is Skyler Hamilton is on thier pro staff and used the Hyper-Lift hull to win a B.A.S.S. Event on the Arkansas River and Xpress mentioned tunnel hull. As your illustration shows it looks like a classic pad hull with chin stabilizers that could be interpreted as tunnels. Just curious if this is the boat the rule was written around. I really like the design, looks like a typical glass bass boat pad hull. Tom Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted October 20, 2017 BassResource.com Administrator Posted October 20, 2017 B.A.S.S. made a nice PR move with this new rule on information, but it means nothing unless they stop going to the same lakes/rivers over and over again. Classic example is the next Classic, where most of the competitors already have information about Hartwell that this new rule is supposed to ban, gleaned from several recent Classics held there. If they really want to "level the playing field", then pair this new rule with a schedule full of new locations, or at least places that they haven't held an event in the past 20 years. 4 Quote
Tim Kelly Posted October 20, 2017 Posted October 20, 2017 How do they choose the venues for events? Presumably there needs to be the on shore facilities for the weigh ins, and increasingly important is good cell coverage. Other than that, is it just habit? Do Chambers of commerce pay them a fee to bring the show to their town? There are a lot of great lakes, I'm surprised they visit the same ones so frequently. Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 21, 2017 Super User Posted October 21, 2017 I can't tell you why B.A.S.S. goes where they do, I can tell you why the don't go to excellent bass fisheries they avoid. B.A.S.S. is all about promoting thier organization and making profits from the events. The entire west coast is avoided because the outdoor sports population doesn't support B.A.S.S., the organization is unknown to the general public. The few events that B.A.S.S. has scheduled out west over the past decades have had poor community support. Tom Quote
Tim Kelly Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 I wonder why there aren't more events in Philly then. Other than the rubbish fishing it was amazingly well supported when Ike won there a couple of years ago! Quote
RichF Posted October 21, 2017 Author Posted October 21, 2017 Im pretty sure towns/cities pay BASS to hold their events there. Those events generate a lot of revenue for host communities. Quote
Super User Sam Posted October 22, 2017 Super User Posted October 22, 2017 On 10/19/2017 at 7:31 AM, TOXIC said: Slippery slope is right.....What's next? Competitors can only use XXXX Rods, XXXX Reels, XXXX Boat manufacturer. XXXX Baits and can only tow with XXXX trucks? While I agree, there is a need for "off-limits" areas, I would have a problem with a boat restriction beyond a USCG Tagged hull including the proper HP outboard. So is someone going to complain that one brand of hull is faster and more fuel efficient (Like Allison for example) and can therefore go further and faster unleveling the playing field? Hmmmmmmm......... How about making it illegal to use the metal clips on your culling system? You are to use plastic clips and not penetrate the fish's mouth. Our Virginia BASS Federation has already put out the word for the 2018 tournaments. Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted October 22, 2017 Global Moderator Posted October 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Sam said: How about making it illegal to use the metal clips on your culling system? You are to use plastic clips and not penetrate the fish's mouth. Our Virginia BASS Federation has already put out the word for the 2018 tournaments. Already set in place for 2018. I read a KVD article where he said they're making it a rule for next year. 1 Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted October 23, 2017 Super User Posted October 23, 2017 I agree with that rule, only because there are too many who don't know how to place a piercing clip properly. If done correctly, they are fine, if done incorrectly, it tears the heck out of a bass' mouth. 2 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted November 12, 2017 Super User Posted November 12, 2017 On 10/23/2017 at 7:23 AM, TOXIC said: there are too many who don't know how to place a piercing clip properly. I'm one . Where should it be placed ? Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted November 13, 2017 Super User Posted November 13, 2017 19 hours ago, scaleface said: I'm one . Where should it be placed ? While I do not use a piercing tag, the optimum place to insert it is at the point in the lower jaw where the soft tissue comes to a "V" at the front of the jaw. You put it as close to the jawbone as possible. Anywhere else in the lower jaw creates too much movement and tears the soft tissue into larger holes, especially if you lift the fish by the cull tags. Now there is a lot of controversy with the clip style as well with critics saying that the clips prevent bass from fully closing their mouth during the breathing process and in some cases actually killing fish, especially smallmouth. 1 Quote
RichF Posted November 13, 2017 Author Posted November 13, 2017 Check out @Glenn's video on culling. I was hesitant at first to tag fish this way because I was afraid the clips would touch their gills. I tried this method my last couple tournaments this year and it worked awesome. No tears and all my fish were super lively when I released them. 1 Quote
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