Jibber82 Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 Question for you guys? Are you using a transom saver when towing? Quote
Super User Further North Posted June 11, 2018 Super User Posted June 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Jibber82 said: Question for you guys? Are you using a transom saver when towing? No. Having had three different kinds break, I've come to believe they transmit shocks directly frm the trailer to the lower unit... But I do use the M-Y Wedge to take the stress off the hydraulics: https://www.cabelas.com/product/M-YWEDGE-MOTOR-SUPPORT/2030926.uts?productVariantId=4220019&WT.tsrc=PPC&WT.mc_id=GoogleProductAds&WT.z_mc_id1=04201272&rid=20&ds_rl=1252079&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwqqP8KHM2wIVRp7ACh0BjAbUEAQYBSABEgLMcvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds Someone will likely jump in with experience that they've towed for years with a transom saver, and you should listed to them as well. I just went with what happened to me. There are also folks who run with the support built into the motor. I'd listen to it all and make your own choice. 1 Quote
Jibber82 Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 Thanks Further. That M-Y Wedge looks like a great option. 1 Quote
Super User Further North Posted June 11, 2018 Super User Posted June 11, 2018 22 minutes ago, Jibber82 said: Thanks Further. That M-Y Wedge looks like a great option. I like it, and I think it's it's easier to deal with than the transom savers. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 11, 2018 Super User Posted June 11, 2018 28 minutes ago, Further North said: I like it, and I think it's it's easier to deal with than the transom savers. I use a transom saver - don't really love it but I haven't found anything else that will work for me. Do like the M-Y Wedge - even ordered two (sorry OCD) when I first took delivery of the Lund. Just didn't fit - the long shaft Optimax does not tilt back far enough to make sufficient space to accommodate even the shortest wedge. The Owner refunded my $$ no problem. May revisit it once I re-power this fall. A-Jay Quote
Super User Further North Posted June 11, 2018 Super User Posted June 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, A-Jay said: Do like the M-Y Wedge - even ordered two (sorry OCD) when I first took delivery of the Lund. That's hilarious. I use two of them... ? 1 Quote
Tim Kelly Posted June 11, 2018 Posted June 11, 2018 I have a my wedge on my little motor. It was too long, so I cut it down to fit. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 11, 2018 Super User Posted June 11, 2018 47 minutes ago, Tim Kelly said: I have a my wedge on my little motor. It was too long, so I cut it down to fit. I thought of that - However after the necessary length reduction, I wouldn't have had sufficient rubber material left. Unit would have been bottoming out on the "Plastic" cylinder. Like the concept though. A-Jay 1 Quote
RenegadeBassin Posted June 12, 2018 Author Posted June 12, 2018 I use a transom saver and haven't had any issues. I hate it though cause its no fun crawling under my motor to hook it up to my trailer right after I've pulled my boat out of the water and the ground is all wet, and my livewell is draining out its contents which sometimes consist of chunks of whatever was in the stomachs of the fish I had in there. Kind of a necessary evil though until motor mate comes out with a model that fits the new fourstrokes edit: I guess they aren't really the new fourstrokes anymore are they @A-Jay, there's a new outboard in town soon to be on the back of your pro-v ? 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 12, 2018 Super User Posted June 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, RenegadeBassin said: I use a transom saver and haven't had any issues. I hate it though cause its no fun crawling under my motor to hook it up to my trailer right after I've pulled my boat out of the water and the ground is all wet, and my livewell is draining out its contents which sometimes consist of chunks of whatever was in the stomachs of the fish I had in there. Kind of a necessary evil though until motor mate comes out with a model that fits the new fourstrokes edit: I guess they aren't really the new fourstrokes anymore are they @A-Jay, there's a new outboard in town soon to be on the back of your pro-v ? @RenegadeBassin Yes Sir ~ If we can call October soon . . . . (not soon enough for this guy) That Renegade is a Sweet Rig and there's a good chance that 4 stroke paved the way for whatever ends up hanging off the back of mine. So I'm a fan. btw - I feel the same way about the transom saver - but I kind of like kneeling in the crayfish parts and half digested perch torsos. Means I had a good day. Working in a clean wet spot is what's bogus . . . A-Jay 1 Quote
Jibber82 Posted June 12, 2018 Posted June 12, 2018 Hi Renegade. Thanks for the info. I got the Shorelander trailer which has a brake light in the middle of the rear or the trailer where the transom saver would rest. I believe you do not have the Shorelander trailer. Is that right? if you do have the middle brake light which transom saver are you using? Either way I ordered the M-Y Wedge Universal which works for the 115 Pro XS. The Regular M-Y Wedge is not compatible with the 115. I'll let you know how I like it. Quote
RenegadeBassin Posted June 12, 2018 Author Posted June 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jibber82 said: Hi Renegade. Thanks for the info. I got the Shorelander trailer which has a brake light in the middle of the rear or the trailer where the transom saver would rest. I believe you do not have the Shorelander trailer. It that right? if you do have the middle brake light which transom saver are you using? I do have that trailer and had that issue. I had to redrill the bracket that you put on the trailer and fasten it to the underneath part of that center bar. If I remember correctly there is already a bolt under there holding in some piece of plastic or something. I redrilled a hole in the bracket that that bolt fit through which allowed me to fasten it under the brake light. The bolt is slightly bigger than the pre-drilled hole. I can't really take any pictures because my boat is in the water for the week and I left my trailer at a friends house on the lake since she has a good spot for it, but if you imagine that bar going across the back of the trailer, the bracket is fastened upside down underneath it like an upside down "U". You can then put the transome saver in it and secure it in place with the pin and it still has enough movement to swing up under the lower unit. I bought mine from my dealer cause he had it right on the shelf and the brand is Springfield. Quote
Super User Further North Posted June 12, 2018 Super User Posted June 12, 2018 2 hours ago, RenegadeBassin said: I use a transom saver and haven't had any issues. I hate it though cause its no fun crawling under my motor to hook it up to my trailer right after I've pulled my boat out of the water and the ground is all wet, and my livewell is draining out its contents which sometimes consist of chunks of whatever was in the stomachs of the fish I had in there. Kind of a necessary evil though until motor mate comes out with a model that fits the new fourstrokes 1 hour ago, A-Jay said: btw - I feel the same way about the transom saver - but I kind of like kneeling in the crayfish parts and half digested perch torsos. Means I had a good day. ? ...another reason I'll stick with the M-Y Wedge. 1 Quote
Jibber82 Posted June 12, 2018 Posted June 12, 2018 Ok stupid question for you guys with Renegades. The cover comes with 3 poles where do the poles actually insert into the boat, in the seat holes (only 2) or the light holes? Quote
RenegadeBassin Posted June 12, 2018 Author Posted June 12, 2018 Mine did not come with a cover ☹️ Quote
Jibber82 Posted June 12, 2018 Posted June 12, 2018 16 minutes ago, RenegadeBassin said: Mine did not come with a cover ☹️ Haha. No problem. Maybe someone with a Lund boat will chime in. I'm sure the way these things work is pretty universal. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 12, 2018 Super User Posted June 12, 2018 Most likely the seat posts. Quote
jbmaine Posted June 12, 2018 Posted June 12, 2018 I have A shorelander trailer with the center light and use the extreme max transom saver. It comes with a bracket that attaches to the existing bolt on the trailer and " twists " into place. To attach or remove, turn the TS 180 degrees. No crawling under the trailer. It also adjusts for length. I have a 50 Mercury and am very happy with the TS. Here's a pic of how it attaches. The end of the TS spirals into a slot on the bracket. 3 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 12, 2018 Super User Posted June 12, 2018 39 minutes ago, Jibber82 said: Ok stupid question for you guys with Renegades. The cover comes with 3 poles where do the poles actually insert into the boat, in the seat holes (only 2) or the light holes? I rig mine like this . . . . One up forward about 2/3' the height of the console wind screens. And the other two on the main deck behind the consoles - height is a bit higher than the wind screens. I place 'pool noodles' over the wind screens to protect the cover And before you ask - No I don't usually rig the cover out on the lake. Another BR member asked how I did it and I set this up for the pic on the way in last fall. A-Jay 4 minutes ago, jbmaine said: I have A shorelander trailer with the center light and use the extreme max transom saver. It comes with a bracket that attaches to the existing bolt on the trailer and " twists " into place. To attach or remove, turn the TS 180 degrees. No crawling under the trailer. It also adjusts for length. I have a 50 Mercury and am very happy with the TS. Here's a pic of how it attaches. The end of the TS spirals into a slot on the bracket. I have the same make trailer & the same transom saver bracket. A-Jay 1 Quote
Jibber82 Posted June 12, 2018 Posted June 12, 2018 22 minutes ago, A-Jay said: I rig mine like this . . . . One up forward about 2/3' the height of the console wind screens. And the other two on the main deck behind the consoles - height is a bit higher than the wind screens. I place 'pool noodles' over the wind screens to protect the cover And before you ask - No I don't usually rig the cover out on the lake. Another BR member asked how I did it and I set this up for the pic on the way in last fall. A-Jay I have the same make trailer & the same transom saver bracket. A-Jay Ok thanks A-Jay. So the poles don't actually insert into the boat anywhere. They just go wherever you want them I guess. I will have to play with it. Are you able to tow the boat at highway speed with the cover on? Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 12, 2018 Super User Posted June 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jibber82 said: Ok thanks A-Jay. So the poles don't actually insert into the boat anywhere. They just go wherever you want them I guess. I will have to play with it. Are you able to tow the boat at highway speed with the cover on? Absolutely ~ I have to take off the Fortrex to facilitate proper cover fit however. It's on a quick slide bracket so it's quick & easy. A-Jay 1 Quote
BassNJake Posted June 12, 2018 Posted June 12, 2018 On 5/30/2018 at 1:03 PM, Hattrick said: Looks like the dealer is offering the 36V 112lb Ultrex as a free upgrade since they don't have the 80lb Ultrex in house... I'm worried about space in the back storage compartment and where 4 batteries and a charger will fit. Any thoughts? Too much? I have a 36 volt Maxxum 101 and have never thought; I wish I had less power. 1 Quote
Hattrick Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 On 6/11/2018 at 7:31 AM, RenegadeBassin said: Sorry to hear about that Hattrick, I hope your dealer takes good care of you since that definitely shouldn't happen. As far as the porpoising goes, I recall during my break in if I didn't trim up my outboard how the boat wanted me to it would porpoise a little, but I've learned how to do it so it doesn't happen. I think you will just have to feel it out and then you won't have any more issues. For me I have to do it slowly, I can't just hold my trim button until its at the sweetspot cause if I do it too fast I sometimes get a little porpoising. I edge it up a little at a time until I'm right where I want to be and it works. Best of luck to you. Good news. It was a false alarm. I had some air in my fuel line and it took a fresh tank of gas and several minutes to clear out but all is well with my motor now! WOOHOO! 6 hours ago, Jibber82 said: Ok stupid question for you guys with Renegades. The cover comes with 3 poles where do the poles actually insert into the boat, in the seat holes (only 2) or the light holes? Hey Jibber, I use a my wedge on my Renegade as well. So much nicer and faster than my old transom saver I use to use on my last boat. As for the cover, A-Jay is spot on. There are buttons on the underside of the cover that the posts snap into. I have one standing up dead center on the casting deck and the other on the back casting deck. Quote
RenegadeBassin Posted June 13, 2018 Author Posted June 13, 2018 @Hattrick if you get a chance will you post a link for the wedge that fits these fourstrokes a lot of us have, sounds like I may want to take a look at one. Quote
Jibber82 Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 10 hours ago, Hattrick said: Good news. It was a false alarm. I had some air in my fuel line and it took a fresh tank of gas and several minutes to clear out but all is well with my motor now! WOOHOO! Hey Jibber, I use a my wedge on my Renegade as well. So much nicer and faster than my old transom saver I use to use on my last boat. As for the cover, A-Jay is spot on. There are buttons on the underside of the cover that the posts snap into. I have one standing up dead center on the casting deck and the other on the back casting deck. That is great to hear that it was a false alarm. Glad your motor is OK! Thanks for the info very much appreciated! 1 hour ago, RenegadeBassin said: @Hattrick if you get a chance will you post a link for the wedge that fits these fourstrokes a lot of us have, sounds like I may want to take a look at one. Here is the link to the M-Y Wedge. For the 115 Pro XS I bought the M-Y Wedge Universal http://www.m-ywedge.com/order-today.html Here is the link to the amazon reviews: https://www.amazon.com/M-Y-Wedge-Universal-Outboard-Trailering/product-reviews/B01D1RYZG8 1 Quote
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