Lund Renegade Bass Boat

[dsidle61]

On 5/3/2018 at 4:54 PM, o2bfishn@frontier.com said:

I have been looking for the same info but can not seem to find it. The Lund dealer is about 150 miles away. I stopped by the ranger dealer yesterday and measured the RT178 on the trailer, fold and motor trimmed and it is 22' 8". Sadly   4 inches too long for my garage! So no new Ranger for me.

If any of you guys are close to a dealer or own a Lund 1775 would you please measure it?

I have the new boat itch, but I do not want to drive 300 miles round trip to find out it is too long.

Thanks

So I got a hold of Rapid Marine.  They had a 1775 crappie edition, which I dont believe changes length at all.  They told me that the stored length (trailer folded and motor trimmed down) is 20'4".  I'd still like to get eyes on one and measure it for myself but I definitely dont think youd have any trouble with a 22' garage.  

[Jibber82]

On 5/7/2018 at 7:16 AM, BassB8Caster said:

I live in western Maine. I have 3 dealers (Lund) within 1.5 hours of me. One (the closest one) has an open house event soon. So I contacted them to see if they will have a renegade in stock to check out. Nope. Said they haven't even had anyone order one. The other two I emailed to get info about the buying/ordering/upgrading process. Got an email with a quote (NH dealer) with add ons I asked for (except they quoted talons instead of power poles. Not a word from the other dealer. Apparently they don't care to sell a boat. The quote I got was high (in my opinion). They priced the boat and motor (115 merc) at $26995. Then upgrading to an 80lb ultrex, one helix 9 mega si at console and 2 talons final price is $35989. I've seen this boat without the upgrades for 23 and change. I believe renegadebassin said he paid just over 23 for his. 

Def not the selling urgency like with vehicles. We will see this fall.

I paid 30k for my 1875 at a dealership in NH this past March. All the upgrades add up quickly. I did an 80# 52" Ultrex w iPilot-link and quick release plate (plus install charges). My options included the 115 Pro XS, Raised logo on freeboards, cover, stereo, auto bilge, tackle trays port and starboard, Smartcraft gauges, tilt steering, 2 bike seats w air ride, and the upgraded Shorearmr trailer. Don't forget if you order your boat from Lund like I did they also get you for dealer freight and prep which is not included on Lund's boat builder thingy and for me was around $1500. So in total the retail was over 33k so I was happy at 30k. I am still waiting patiently on delivery of the boat (should be delivered end of this month). I purchased 2 Helix 10's, all mounting hardware (Precision Sonar) and networking stuff, a 3 bank charger, and 2 Optima D31M's on my own separately but will have the dealer install.

[BassB8Caster]

21 minutes ago, Jibber82 said:

I paid 30k for my 1875 at a dealership in NH this past March. All the upgrades add up quickly. I did an 80# 52" Ultrex w iPilot-link and quick release plate (plus install charges). My options included the 115 Pro XS, Raised logo on freeboards, cover, stereo, auto bilge, tackle trays port and starboard, Smartcraft gauges, tilt steering, 2 bike seats w air ride, and the upgraded Shorearmr trailer. Don't forget if you order your boat from Lund like I did they also get you for dealer freight and prep which is not included on Lund's boat builder thingy and for me was around $1500. So in total the retail was over 33k so I was happy at 30k. I am still waiting patiently on delivery of the boat (should be delivered end of this month). I purchased 2 Helix 10's, all mounting hardware (Precision Sonar) and networking stuff, a 3 bank charger, and 2 Optima D31M's on my own separately but will have the dealer install.

Thanks for the feedback. Yeah 30k is really the highest I want to go. I'm aware the Lund price does not include de the dealer prep fees. Just want sure how much that would be. Does that trailer you got have a braking system? What exactly is the upgrade? I emailed greens marine twice. The first time he quoted me for stuff I didn't ask for. Then I asked him what the boat price he gave me included and it had stuff I didn't want (crappie option, etc). If someone wants to buy something from you wouldn't you ask them what they want instead of putting options on that they may not want? That turned me off. Done with them. Never asked me one question about the order. Quoted me 26995 for boat and trailer. Im in no hurry to buy. Will see what dealer inventory is this fall. Ptices should come down some. Vexus is coming out with a pretty sick boat. 18'9 aluminum fiberglass hybrid base price around 26k. Includes 115 motor, trailer with brakes, hydraulic steering, fortrex TM etc. Pretty good deal. Closest dealer will be connecticut tho. 

[Jibber82]

1 minute ago, BassB8Caster said:

Thanks for the feedback. Yeah 30k is really the highest I want to go. I'm aware the Lund price does not include de the dealer prep fees. Just want sure how much that would be. Does that trailer you got have a braking system? What exactly is the upgrade? I emailed greens marine twice. The first time he quoted me for stuff I didn't ask for. Then I asked him what the boat price he gave me included and it had stuff I didn't want (crappie option, etc). If someone wants to buy something from you wouldn't you ask them what they want instead of putting options on that they may not want? That turned me off. Done with them. Never asked me one question about the order. Quoted me 26995 for boat and trailer. Im in no hurry to buy. Will see what dealer inventory is this fall. Ptices should come down some. Vexus is coming out with a pretty sick boat. 18'9 aluminum fiberglass hybrid base price around 26k. Includes 115 motor, trailer with brakes, hydraulic steering, fortrex TM etc. Pretty good deal. Closest dealer will be connecticut tho. 

The trailer upgrades include the cool wheels, spare tire, retractable tie downs in the back, and I think that's it although I could be forgetting something. It does not have brakes. I don't believe any trailer for a boat of this weight will have brakes. I bought mine from Green's and honestly the in store experience was good (I did have to wait 15 min for a salesperson) but their customer service over the phone and email has been terrible. I've had a lot of questions about options and batteries and such since I bought and RenegadeBassin has helped me more than Greens has. Getting answers to specific questions from them has been like pulling teeth which is frustrating since I spent 30 freaking k on a boat with them. It's making me worried that they won't install my graphs and options correctly so I am crossing my fingers on that. I have checked out the Vexus and it is a freaking sweet boat.

[Jibber82]

On a side note. I think the reason they quoted you on stuff you didn't ask for is because they quoted you for the 1875 they have in stock at Greens it's white and has the crappie option. I think they did the same to me when I asked for an initial quote. As for dealer inventory prices in the fall they will definitely be better than ordering one from Lund in the spring. Did not see the Vexus trailer has brakes. Maybe it's a bit heavier being a fiberglass/aluminum hybrid?

[BassB8Caster]

1 hour ago, Jibber82 said:

On a side note. I think the reason they quoted you on stuff you didn't ask for is because they quoted you for the 1875 they have in stock at Greens it's white and has the crappie option. I think they did the same to me when I asked for an initial quote. As for dealer inventory prices in the fall they will definitely be better than ordering one from Lund in the spring. Did not see the Vexus trailer has brakes. Maybe it's a bit heavier being a fiberglass/aluminum hybrid?

Appears that boat dealers (lund atleast) in Maine and NH are not very good (on the sales side at least). Seem to careless about customer service and earning ones business. That def concerns me a little. Im not as concerned with the sales side as thats just a numbers game. Im concerned with good services, as issues can and probably will come up. One dealer (closest one to me) actually responded quite quickly. Unfortunately they do not have a renegade in stock and said they will not be bringing one in. I agree with you about concern with proper install of electronics (and any dealer installed item). Simple things like proper fuses for upgraded electronics. Im considering installing my own as well. 

 

As far as the Vexus goes, it is very similar to the renegade with length, motor options, etc. Not sure of specs as they are not listed online yet. I guess its old ranger guys making them / starting the company. I do not mind travelling to CT to buy the boat, my concern is if i have a warranty issue with the boat i would have to go to CT, then back to pick it up. I would think that if i have motor issues, any Mercury dealer will honor that, regardless where i bought the boat. The vexus also has hydraulic steering standard, a nice upgrade. The base price does not come with any electronics. I was hoping (looking to be wishful thinking as i look more) to be $30k or under with 2 power poles, upgraded trolling motor and some sort of graphs (console and bow). We will see when the time comes how much over that $26k a base boat and trailer runs (with dealer prep fees etc). 

[RenegadeBassin]

If you do end up putting poles on and you have any questions about brackets and stuff I can help you. It gets a little confusing if you aren't bolting to a jackplate because you can't use sandwich brackets with mercury's warranty.

[BassB8Caster]

5 hours ago, RenegadeBassin said:

If you do end up putting poles on and you have any questions about brackets and stuff I can help you. It gets a little confusing if you aren't bolting to a jackplate because you can't use sandwich brackets with mercury's warranty.

Appreciate it. I remember you commenting on that earlier in this thread. I fish alone a lot and poles are high on my priority list. 

[Jibber82]

21 hours ago, RenegadeBassin said:

If you do end up putting poles on and you have any questions about brackets and stuff I can help you. It gets a little confusing if you aren't bolting to a jackplate because you can't use sandwich brackets with mercury's warranty.

Thanks Renegade. Poles will be in my near future so I will definitely be asking you about the install.

[Janderson45]

I officially joined the club yesterday with a black 1875 renegade. I'll supposedly get the first run of the 2019 models as I special ordered, interested to see if it stays the exact same or if they'll perhaps address the weather/water sealing concerns on the lids. 6-8 week wait time to get it from the factory.  I built a pretty unique rig as I went with an Evinrude E-Tec 115HO, hydraulic jackplate, hotfoot and blinker style trim, minn kota Ultrex and 3 Humminbird helix G2N units.  Also got the upgraded trailer, travel cover, bike seat and 3 bank onboard charger.  I'm stoked, can't get my hands on it soon enough! 

[Tim Kelly]

Very nice. Enjoy it.

[RenegadeBassin]

21 hours ago, Janderson45 said:

I officially joined the club yesterday with a black 1875 renegade. I'll supposedly get the first run of the 2019 models as I special ordered, interested to see if it stays the exact same or if they'll perhaps address the weather/water sealing concerns on the lids. 6-8 week wait time to get it from the factory.  I built a pretty unique rig as I went with an Evinrude E-Tec 115HO, hydraulic jackplate, hotfoot and blinker style trim, minn kota Ultrex and 3 Humminbird helix G2N units.  Also got the upgraded trailer, travel cover, bike seat and 3 bank onboard charger.  I'm stoked, can't get my hands on it soon enough! 

I'm hoping to eventually see this thread turn into a place where more renegade owners can also share their experiences and help other people looking into the boat as well. Congrats man that sounds like its going to be awesome, can't wait to see it!

[Jibber82]

22 hours ago, Janderson45 said:

I officially joined the club yesterday with a black 1875 renegade. I'll supposedly get the first run of the 2019 models as I special ordered, interested to see if it stays the exact same or if they'll perhaps address the weather/water sealing concerns on the lids. 6-8 week wait time to get it from the factory.  I built a pretty unique rig as I went with an Evinrude E-Tec 115HO, hydraulic jackplate, hotfoot and blinker style trim, minn kota Ultrex and 3 Humminbird helix G2N units.  Also got the upgraded trailer, travel cover, bike seat and 3 bank onboard charger.  I'm stoked, can't get my hands on it soon enough! 

So awesome! I got a call from my dealer that mine should be delivered by this weekend! I'll post pics once I get it. Can't wait. I ordered at the end of March. Honestly not sure if I ordered a 2018 or 2019 haha. Jealous of that hydraulic jackplate and hotfoot!

22 minutes ago, RenegadeBassin said:

I'm hoping to eventually see this thread turn into a place where more renegade owners can also share their experiences and help other people looking into the boat as well. Congrats man that sounds like its going to be awesome, can't wait to see it!

That's good to hear Renegade. I have been a little worried about hijacking your thread

[RenegadeBassin]

4 hours ago, Jibber82 said:

That's good to hear Renegade. I have been a little worried about hijacking your thread

Don't worry about that! The more the merrier 

[J Francho]

5 hours ago, RenegadeBassin said:

I'm hoping to eventually see this thread turn into a place where more renegade owners can also share their experiences and help other people looking into the boat as well.

That would be great.  Just the the Heritage boat thread.

[RenegadeBassin]

While I'm here, I have story/warning for you new boat owners like me that I don't think I've shared with you guys yet. Some of you may already know to do this but I didn't and its got my boat currently somewhat out of commission.

 

A couple of weekends ago I was fishing a tournament and the wind was really blowing for the morning blast off. I'm talking about 3 and 4 foot waves. I drew number 1 so I got to go first when we started and so I didn't really have anyone to watch in front of me to gauge just how big those waves were for Maine. I haven't experienced anything like that around here before. I took off across the lake at a speed that I thought was safe, but would also get me to where i wanted to go without getting passed by the entire club behind me. Well, little did I know, in situations like that you want to have a stabilizer bar under your trolling motor. I've seen them before but mine did not come with one from the factory so I didn't think I needed it. If you are going to be going through waves, GET ONE. My fortrex mount basically snapped in half from the force of those waves. 

 

Luckily, minn kota is fixing it for me under warranty since I was not abusing it or mistreating it, I just was going through some unavoidable waves. I haven't been able to go fishing for like 2 weeks though and its driving me crazy. 

 

My advice, if you don't have something to support the head of your trolling motor, I would seriously consider getting one. If I had had one I wouldn't be in the situation I'm in now. 

[J Francho]

Ouch!

[A-Jay]

4 hours ago, RenegadeBassin said:

While I'm here, I have story/warning for you new boat owners like me that I don't think I've shared with you guys yet. Some of you may already know to do this but I didn't and its got my boat currently somewhat out of commission.

 

A couple of weekends ago I was fishing a tournament and the wind was really blowing for the morning blast off. I'm talking about 3 and 4 foot waves. I drew number 1 so I got to go first when we started and so I didn't really have anyone to watch in front of me to gauge just how big those waves were for Maine. I haven't experienced anything like that around here before. I took off across the lake at a speed that I thought was safe, but would also get me to where i wanted to go without getting passed by the entire club behind me. Well, little did I know, in situations like that you want to have a stabilizer bar under your trolling motor. I've seen them before but mine did not come with one from the factory so I didn't think I needed it. If you are going to be going through waves, GET ONE. My fortrex mount basically snapped in half from the force of those waves. 

 

Luckily, minn kota is fixing it for me under warranty since I was not abusing it or mistreating it, I just was going through some unavoidable waves. I haven't been able to go fishing for like 2 weeks though and its driving me crazy. 

 

My advice, if you don't have something to support the head of your trolling motor, I would seriously consider getting one. If I had had one I wouldn't be in the situation I'm in now. 

The stabilizer bar is OK. (and better than nothing).

But it will still 'bounce' and quite a bit.

The T-H Marine Troll Tamer is Very Solid. 

A-Jay

 

[Jibber82]

Dang Renegade. That sucks. Thanks for the warning. I do know the Ultrex has an arm that touches the deck but not sure if that would be sufficient to avoid this.

 

 

[Janderson45]

Hope you get fixed up and back on the water soon Renegade!

 

Im still contemplating a Fortrex since it's supposed to be more solid if you hit anything with the motor.. I fish a lot of shallow water and would be super bummed out if the Ultrex took a shot and didn't handle it well... that said I'm probably worrying about nothing and the Ultrex will be fine.. apparently the Fortrex isn't quite as "indestructible" as people say!  

 

I guess I'll be looking into a stabilizer bar or troll tamer like AJ suggested as well.. luckily I don't typically fish rough water like that, but a trip or two each year to Champlain which an get very rough very quick... 

[RenegadeBassin]

1 hour ago, Janderson45 said:

Hope you get fixed up and back on the water soon Renegade!

 

Im still contemplating a Fortrex since it's supposed to be more solid if you hit anything with the motor.. I fish a lot of shallow water and would be super bummed out if the Ultrex took a shot and didn't handle it well... that said I'm probably worrying about nothing and the Ultrex will be fine.. apparently the Fortrex isn't quite as "indestructible" as people say!  

 

I guess I'll be looking into a stabilizer bar or troll tamer like AJ suggested as well.. luckily I don't typically fish rough water like that, but a trip or two each year to Champlain which an get very rough very quick... 

Aside from this incident the fortrex has been good to me, but I think if you get a fortrex you will regret not getting the ultrex. Its basically the same mount and there are times almost every time I go fishing where I think, man, spot lock would be nice right now. 

[Hattrick]

Hey fellas!

 

Figured I'd jump in on the thread since I just received the call from my dealer today that my Renegade 1775 has been delivered...  When I ordered the boat I was told he had an Ultrex in house that he would put aside for my boat when it came in... low and behold one of his people "stole it" off the shelf and used it for another boat.... so  while my boat is at the dealership (hopefully with the shrink wrap still installed) stuck outside, I may have to wait for an Ultrex to come in which are very hard to find right now... may be another 3 weeks.  No bueno.

[Hattrick]

Looks like the dealer is offering the 36V 112lb Ultrex as a free upgrade since they don't have the 80lb Ultrex in house...  I'm worried about space in the back storage compartment and where 4 batteries and a charger will fit.  Any thoughts?  Too much?

[Janderson45]

9 hours ago, Hattrick said:

Looks like the dealer is offering the 36V 112lb Ultrex as a free upgrade since they don't have the 80lb Ultrex in house...  I'm worried about space in the back storage compartment and where 4 batteries and a charger will fit.  Any thoughts?  Too much?

 

Id probably prefer the 80lb, but interested to hear what others think. Im curious about what people are running for batteries on the renegade, I really don't want to run my electronics on my cranking battery or trolling motor batteries ideally I'd have room for a fourth battery to run my graphs, and other misc. electronics.  

[Hattrick]

Thanks for the response! I've been asking around on other forums and everyone is saying definitely take the upgrade, including another Renegade owner.  Consensus seems to be the 24V owners would love the extra battery life and power.  Saying I won't regret it and jamming 4 batts in the compartment is not an issue since you typically don't use the compartment to store anything.