The Physics Of Fishing

[Quarry Man]

I am doing a project on the physics of fishing. I already have several ideas of how it relates to fishing, but wanted to see what you guys could come up with first. Thanks!

[frogflogger]

I would be interested in your findings.

[NHBull]

Depending on how deep you plan on going, this could be a big project.  One of my students did something similar for his Senior Honors Thesis, and really had to dial it down and get specific.

 

Fist thing I would do is to reach out to some custom rod builders and expand from there.

 

Good luck!

[Koz]

F=mA

 

Where F = # of fish caught

m = Money invested

A = Angler Ability

 

Just a little Newtown's Second Law pun there for those that are not physics savvy.

 

 

[bigbill]

Cover the bass as predators. Like a cat they may strike or sit back. Bass aren't much different. Each cat is different and some can be aggressive or laid back.

 

physics, it it looks alive they will strike it. Maybe? Think like a cat it could take many casts to make them strike. But a attacking frenzy may occur too.

 

ever play with a red dot laser with a kitten?

 

how about adding Dr. Loren Hills ten year research into what colors the bass sees and the development of the color C lector and combo C lector? You know the bass are there but not biting.

 

Just some ideas for you.

[scaleface]

I feel something on the end of my line . It is both a bass and a twig . Only after I set the hook does  it actually become a bass or a twig .

[MickD]

One area that is tight enough and is definitely ruled by the laws of physics is casting distance as affected by rod length, power, action, line characteristics, guide design (diameter of the ring, type of ring, height of ring, angle of ring with respect to the reel axis or line guide,) casting reel vs spinning reel, etc etc etc .

 

While writing this I see that it too is probably too wide open.  If I were going to do a project like this I would restrict it to a few of the variables.  

 

Much of what's being talked about here is not physics.

 

[WRB]

Stay with classical physics, the observable world of mechanics, Newtons laws of physics. Reels, rods, lures, sound waves etc, then apply those mechanics to fishing.

Tom

[Deleted account]

20 minutes ago, scaleface said:

I feel something on the end of my line . It is both a bass and a twig . Only after I set the hook does  it actually become a bass or a twig .

And you will know it's speed OR position....

[Quarry Man]

5 hours ago, frogflogger said:

I would be interested in your findings.

I will keep you up to date.

I was thinking of rods, reel bearings, smallmouth jumping out if the water, boat weight vs speed, and fish finders.

 thanks for the help. please continue to give any advice. If you are interested in my findings, please follow this thread. i will update it occasionally.

[MassYak85]

One thing I've always wanted to do is measure the affects of different variables on line breaking strength, such as UV exposure, kinks (like those at the top guide when the rod has been stored for a while with the lure), water absorption, etc. Not sure if that falls in line with what you're trying to do. 

[Quarry Man]

Yeah, that sounds like a great idea for my experiment.

Just now, MassYak85 said:

One thing I've always wanted to do is measure the affects of different variables on line breaking strength, such as UV exposure, kinks (like those at the top guide when the rod has been stored for a while with the lure), water absorption, etc. Not sure if that falls in line with what you're trying to do. 

 

My biggest problem so far has been finding reliable sources. I am not supposed to use .com at all. If i could, id just use this forum and id be done. Would any of you guys be willing to be direct sources?

[Quarry Man]

I need info on centrifugal braking, magnetic braking, line, and fish shape, also why they jump. If you know about these topics and are willing to be a source let me know!

[MickD]

There is really a lot of good fishing info on this forum, but using it as a source of reliable physics information would not, in my opinion, work.  I don't know how you would "qualify" your sources.

[Quarry Man]

29 minutes ago, MickD said:

There is really a lot of good fishing info on this forum, but using it as a source of reliable physics information would not, in my opinion, work.  I don't know how you would "qualify" your sources.

 

I was thinking of just citing the people directly. That would look more professional and still allow me to get the info. Its a shame how we know that this forum is very reliable, but I can't use it.

[Bruce424]

Least amount of force to penetrate a flipping hook. With a constant of 15 ft of x# mono or fluoro...

[WRB]

You can use the Internet to search for published white papers with references on each topic of interest. 

Tom

[flyfisher]

1 hour ago, Quarry Man said:

Yeah, that sounds like a great idea for my experiment.

 

My biggest problem so far has been finding reliable sources. I am not supposed to use .com at all. If i could, id just use this forum and id be done. Would any of you guys be willing to be direct sources?

That seems very difficult to do given the technological age we live in and the digital resources that are out there.

So after reading through the posts are you doing an actual experiment or are you merely doing research and compiling that information into a presentation?

 

[bigbill]

How about the forces of the strike between LMB and SMB.?

 

i find the river bass are stronger than the pond and lake bass.

[MIbassyaker]

I want to see a physics validation of the "hinge-effect" of using a snell knot on a flipping hook. And you have to show your work.

 

But seriously, see if you can find the book The Scientific Angler by Paul Johnson. It's old (mid 80s) but it provides a good overview of a number of scientific topics related to fishing.

[Deleted account]

5 hours ago, MickD said:

There is really a lot of good fishing info on this forum, but using it as a source of reliable physics information would not, in my opinion, work.  I don't know how you would "qualify" your sources.

So the Cosmic clock calendar predictor thing is out?....

[WRB]

41 minutes ago, reason said:

So the Cosmic clock calendar predictor thing is out?....

No physics lessen, my opinionated bass behavioral lessen yes.

Tom

[Quarry Man]

6 hours ago, flyfisher said:

That seems very difficult to do given the technological age we live in and the digital resources that are out there.

So after reading through the posts are you doing an actual experiment or are you merely doing research and compiling that information into a presentation?

 

This marking period is just resaerch, next is a paper, then an expirement, and finally a presentation.

[toni63]

Light penetration in water and or line visibility in water. Like, tell me at what depth do different lines disappear. 

 

Or fluifd dynamics as they pertain to lure movement and depth. Lures in water are all about physics. 

[jbmaine]

You cast a lure with all your might. It goes X distance. You immediately feel a tic,pull, or see a fish rise on it. You set the hook with all your might, and miss the fish. Your lure comes sailing back at you, and goes past you to land on the other side of the boat in the water. This = X + distance past you. Given that X + distance past you is greater than X than by the law of fish physics, would we all cast further if we cast backwards?