jebar01 Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 I recently found several Johnson Weedless Spoons , and am curious as to what would be the best trailers for fall bass fishing and should I tie the line directly to the spoon or use a snap swivel due to line twist? Quote
dwh4784 Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 I like a mister twister single tail grub pushed all the way up on the shank so it kicks out a bit. I also tie direct since these spoons don't wobble enough to spin when fished correctly. They can be fished pretty slow and still wobble like they are meant to. I don't use them a lot, but when the weeds are thick and they won't hit topwater the Johnson spoon can save the day. 2 Quote
jbmaine Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 Until I saw your post I hadn't thought of these in yrs. Very old school, and can be very effective. I think I still have a couple of these kicking around, I'll have to put them in my tackle box. Thanks Jim Quote
crypt Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 use em all the time,just like Catt, skirts,twin tail grubs,or just by itself.great cold water bait.don't forget to sharpen that hook. 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted October 4, 2017 Super User Posted October 4, 2017 4 hours ago, crypt said: use em all the time,just like Catt, skirts,twin tail grubs,or just by itself.great cold water bait.don't forget to sharpen that hook. Yeah, that hook is a$$. It's a pain to sharpen. Also the line tie needs to be centered so it wobbles instead of spins, and lastly fish it as slow as possible, then slow down some more.... Spoons are deadly for a lot of fish, but they are quite speed sensitive, so they aren't as popular as other more forgiving lures. Salmon guys seem to have the touch. 1 Quote
Super User bigbill Posted October 4, 2017 Super User Posted October 4, 2017 I use the mister twister 4" split double tail grub for most of my trailers. once you see it in the water swimming like it's alive you will agree. I cut the length of the grub body to fit the size / hook application I'm using it for. https://www.mistertwister.com/information/split-double-tail/335#SDT10 11BKS Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 4, 2017 Super User Posted October 4, 2017 Johnson Silver Minnow is a weedless surface or sub surface swimming spoon. Upside it's very weedless as long as you keep reeling it. The downside it has the dullest hook imaginable and must be filed/honed sharp before using it. The spoon was designed to use a split tail pork trailer so any soft plastic that resembles a split tail trailer works good or split a 4" straight tail worm about 3". Tom 2 Quote
Super User Scott F Posted October 4, 2017 Super User Posted October 4, 2017 The Johnson Silver Minnow was one of my main lures on my many Canadian fly-in fishing trips. I always used a 4 inch white or yellow twister tail as a trailer. I did find that most of the pork trailers I tried absolutely killed the action of the lure. Quote
Tucson Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 After all these years they still haven't gotten the big dull hook problem taken care of. Gotta do it yourself. Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted October 4, 2017 Super User Posted October 4, 2017 The big 1 1/2 oz. size is pike and catfish killer. I like it in gold plate. Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 4, 2017 Super User Posted October 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Scott F said: The Johnson Silver Minnow was one of my main lures on my many Canadian fly-in fishing trips. I always used a 4 inch white or yellow twister tail as a trailer. I did find that most of the pork trailers I tried absolutely killed the action of the lure. #50 4" white UJ Bass Strip is only 1/16 thick and Johnson Silver spoon swim perfectly with a strip nose hooked. I cut this strip about 3" down the center for bass, pike and musky it's used out of the jar. Unfortunitly UJ doesn't make pork rind anymore, so it's a mute discussion, unless you can find a jar. Tom Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted October 5, 2017 Super User Posted October 5, 2017 I spent a little time yesterday fishing a Timberdoodle around a weeded up pond. I had a pair of solid hits, but both times the hook didnt clear the plastic all the way. I bought the Timberdoodle a year or two ago because I thought the name was funny, but yesterday was my first time seriously trying to fish it. I really like the action of a. spoon and fish a lot of spots where it would be a good lure, but even after trying to sharpen the hook myself I'm not convinced it's going to be terribly effective. Does anyone make a weedless spoon with a good hook? 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted October 5, 2017 Super User Posted October 5, 2017 Uncle Josh #11 pork frog or #23 kicker frog in yellow with spots or green with spots. As for the hook instead of filing or honing I have sharpener that sharpens just the point like a pencil sharpener. 1 Quote
Super User Ratherbfishing Posted October 5, 2017 Super User Posted October 5, 2017 With a few exceptions (where there are toothy fish (requiring leaders) or inline spinners-requiring a swivel) I don't like any hardware at all between the line and the lure. Regarding trailers, for this bait I like skinny unintrusive trailers. Others impede the wobble too much for my taste. Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted October 5, 2017 Super User Posted October 5, 2017 11 hours ago, Catt said: As for the hook instead of filing or honing I have sharpener that sharpens just the point like a pencil sharpener. I can't tell if you are pulling my chain. Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted October 5, 2017 Super User Posted October 5, 2017 1 hour ago, fishwizzard said: I can't tell if you are pulling my chain. A long time ago I had a Hook Hone-R made by a company called Pointmatic that worked exactly like a pencil sharpener. Not certain if that's what Catt is referring to or not. Company went out of business many years back. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 5, 2017 Super User Posted October 5, 2017 Still have a Hone R battery operated hook honer, just don't use it anymore with today's needle/knife point hooks. Agree it would be perfect for the Johnson spoons hook as long as the steel doesn't bend easily. OP, give the spoon try. Tom 1 Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted October 5, 2017 Super User Posted October 5, 2017 Hah, well some of them are still out there! http://www.ebay.com/itm/611m-HOOK-HONE-R-Fish-Hook-Sharpener-Power-Stone-Battery-Operated-/282665137811?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275 Quote
dave Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 I've had them in my tackle box for 25 years. Last October, redfish in Houma...slayed'em. Quote
Super User Catt Posted October 6, 2017 Super User Posted October 6, 2017 8 hours ago, Team9nine said: A long time ago I had a Hook Hone-R made by a company called Pointmatic that worked exactly like a pencil sharpener. Not certain if that's what Catt is referring to or not. Company went out of business many years back. Yelp that'll be the one! It's in an old marsh tackle box somewhere ? 2 Quote
frogflogger Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 black chrome with a 4 - 6" black pork eel - swim on top - drop on weed edges - deadly then - deadly now 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 6, 2017 Super User Posted October 6, 2017 Persuader Lures makes a very similar updated weedless spoon call Weedless Image spoon that has a modern sharp hook. Tom Quote
Big Swimbait Posted October 8, 2017 Posted October 8, 2017 I like the Bomber Saltwater version. Hook is sticky sharp plus it has rattles. The Bone/Orange is my fav. http://www.basspro.com/shop/en/bomber-saltwater-grade-who-dat-weedless-rattling-spoon Quote
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