Changing hooks on lures, will it affect action

[Largemouth21]

I am going to replace hooks on rebel pop-r. It says on the website that the hooks are size 6 on the pop-r. I would replace them with VMC short shank round bend hooks. (like what come on Rapalas) will this change the action? VMC hooks

[Catt]

I replaced mine with Mustad KVD Triple Grip #4

[KDW96]

16 minutes ago, Catt said:

I replaced mine with Mustad KVD Triple Grip #4

Same here  ,but i stick with the same size on jerkbaits.

[IndianaFinesse]

Nope.  Pop-rs aren't exactly super finely balanced, so a little more or less weight in the hooks isn't noticeable.

[Largemouth21]

7 hours ago, Catt said:

I replaced mine with Mustad KVD Triple Grip #4

does the lack of feathers matter? The rear treble on the pop-r is a dressed treble.

[Angry John]

I would not use a short shank on a topwater bait.  Normally i would recommend some sort of round bend but my best holding hook on poppers is the owner st-41.  Everyone has a favorite but a good hook lasts a long time on a popper.

 

[WRB]

Replace the hooks by buying a Splash-It, it comes with Owner hooks and the rear treble is feathered. 

Yes, feathered rear treble hook helps a Pop-R type lure increase strikes. Owner, Gamakatsu, Mustad and VMC all make feathered treble hooks for a reason, they work.

Tom

[Attila]

Have to echo sentiments that you can't really change the action of a popper given that the pop comes from the design of the lure body itself.

 

With regards to feathered trebles, I can attest that they do matter. I experimented a couple of years ago with a Rapala Skitter Pop, one with a feathered treble and another with a regular, undressed treble and the feathered version out fished the undressed treble 4:1.

 

Next year I'm going to experiment with VMC X-Rap feathered trebles on the back of some of my Shadow Raps...will be interesting to see the results.

[Catt]

4 hours ago, Largemouth21 said:

does the lack of feathers matter? The rear treble on the pop-r is a dressed treble.

 

Some of my Pop-Rs have feathers some don't!

 

I'm mainly concerned with it sitting nose high, this allows for subtle or serious pops.

 

The Little trick Zell Rowland showed me ?

[Largemouth21]

I'm also interested in the tiny popper, except that most companies don't make a size 8 treble. Will size 6 work or be to big. Some earlier posters said they put #4 trebles on the regular popper which calls for #6 so why not #6 on a  #8?

[IndianaFinesse]

I agree about the importance of the nose sitting high and the tail low, it makes it easier to pop without moving it as far forward, in addition to have a better sound to it.  I upsize the back hook enough to accomplish this, on the back I'll go either #4 or #2 (depending on the individual hook's weight) and the front gets a #6.

[Largemouth21]

14 hours ago, Angry John said:

I would not use a short shank on a topwater bait 

Any particular reason for that? These are round bend short shank trebles like what come on rapalas

[Catt]

9 hours ago, Largemouth21 said:

I'm also interested in the tiny popper, except that most companies don't make a size 8 treble. Will size 6 work or be to big. Some earlier posters said they put #4 trebles on the regular popper which calls for #6 so why not #6 on a  #8?

How it sits on the water is more important than what hook ya use!

 

Ya don't want it nose down or even level 

[WRB]

If want to educate yourself on Rebel Pop-R's read Zell Roland's articles in Bassmaster.

Zell doesn't use out of the box Pop-R's unless it's his modified version.

I remember in the 80's sanding the sides and lower lip of Rebel Pop-R so they spit instead of popped, changing the rear hook to chicken feathers in lieu of Mylar so we could work the lure faster to resemble fleeing Shad. We used Mustad treble hooks size 4 front and 6 rear back in the 80's.

Today you can buy tuned Pop-R type lures made in Japan that work perfectly out of the box.

Tom

 

[Mike L]

20 hours ago, Attila said:

 

 

 

Next year I'm going to experiment with VMC X-Rap feathered trebles on the back of some of my Shadow Raps...will be interesting to see the results.

You won't throw it again without one

 

 

 

 

 

Mike 

[Largemouth21]

4 hours ago, WRB said:

If want to educate yourself on Rebel Pop-R's read Zell Roland's articles in Bassmaster.

Zell doesn't use out of the box Pop-R's unless it's his modified version.

I remember in the 80's sanding the sides and lower lip of Rebel Pop-R so they spit instead of popped, changing the rear hook to chicken feathers in lieu of Mylar so we could work the lure faster to resemble fleeing Shad. We used Mustad treble hooks size 4 front and 6 rear back in the 80's.

Today you can buy tuned Pop-R type lures made in Japan that work perfectly out of the box.

Tom

 

just depends if a person has 20$ to drop on a single lure, (i dont) So i will make due with modded pop-rs

[Angry John]

9 hours ago, Largemouth21 said:

Any particular reason for that? These are round bend short shank trebles like what come on rapalas

The longer shank hangs down and has a better chance at grabbing a fish.  Short shanks are for cranks like squarebills running threw cover 

[Largemouth21]

On 9/28/2017 at 1:55 PM, Angry John said:

The longer shank hangs down and has a better chance at grabbing a fish.  Short shanks are for cranks like squarebills running threw cover 

are the x rap dressed hooks short shank??

 

EDIT: I am going for some gami hooks. Supposed to be better than VMC

hopefully these should work ok??

 http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Gamakatsu_Treble_Round_Bend_Hooks_Black/descpage-BLICK.html 

 

feathered trebles (for back) http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Gamakatsu_Black_Feathered_Treble_Hook_2pk/descpage-GFT.html