Bottom Contact Confidence?

[Dorado]

I used to dread fishing weeds until I tried a weightless Zoom Trick Worm (candy bug). I like slowly dragging it along the bottom and discovered that it hovers effortlessly above vegetation.  When dragging along sometimes, often you encounter a vertical patch of grass; you just finesse tug it through and that's when you also get a lot of bites too. 

 

I fished a swimjig with a paddle tail trailer for the very first time last Sunday and caught a nice bass within 15 minutes. I was surprised how well that cut thru vegetation and will use that more as a search bait for weedy Ponds 

 

ditch the weight on your TX rigged worms and see if you get similar results. Bonus feature of the weightless trick worm is the initial deadly fall too! 

[Quarry Man]

What rod do you use for this? I also like a finesse texas rigged q\zoom trick worm with a 1/0 hook and 1/8 oz bullet weight. I also love swim jig.

12 hours ago, Dorado said:

I used to dread fishing weeds until I tried a weightless Zoom Trick Worm (candy bug). I like slowly dragging it along the bottom and discovered that it hovers effortlessly above vegetation.  When dragging along sometimes, often you encounter a vertical patch of grass; you just finesse tug it through and that's when you also get a lot of bites too. 

 

I fished a swimjig with a paddle tail trailer for the very first time last Sunday and caught a nice bass within 15 minutes. I was surprised how well that cut thru vegetation and will use that more as a search bait for weedy Ponds 

 

ditch the weight on your TX rigged worms and see if you get similar results. Bonus feature of the weightless trick worm is the initial deadly fall too! 

 

[WRB]

One of the better paddle tail swimbaits for bottom contact and excellent weedless lure is 3:16 Mission Fish available in sizes 4" to 9".

Tom

[Turkey sandwich]

You have a lot of options.  There are some good ideas here that definitely work.  For dense grass, slop, or mud with a T-rig, I'm a big fan of using the lightest weight possible.  If I need to slowly drag the bottom in these types of ponds/lakes, I'll also use a light or "finesse" Carolina rig with a floating worm and allow the floating worm to do provide the action.  A finesse C-Rig doesn't require a small worm, either.  My go-to is typically a 7-8" worm.  With this presentation, I want the weight to get the worm down, but not really to sink all the way through the muck on the bottom, so light bullet or barrel weights are important.

[Dorado]

6 hours ago, Quarry Man said:

What rod do you use for this? I also like a finesse texas rigged q\zoom trick worm with a 1/0 hook and 1/8 oz bullet weight. I also love swim jig.

 

I have a 7'0" Abu Garcia Vendetta Medium Spinning rod. It has a stiff backbone and feels more like a medium-heavy. I'm trying my 7'0" Medium-Light Fenwick HMG next time I go weightless because it has a faster tip so I can fling it further. It's great for drop shotting too with #10 PP braid and #8 copolyer leader 

 

I really like the 3/0 Gama G-Lock on the trick worm weightless. I fish at night mostly so I'm a little late on my hooksets since I can't be a line watcher. I always have my headlamp off. 

[Catt]

15 hours ago, Turkey sandwich said:

You have a lot of options.  There are some good ideas here that definitely work.  For dense grass, slop, or mud with a T-rig, I'm a big fan of using the lightest weight possible.  If I need to slowly drag the bottom in these types of ponds/lakes, I'll also use a light or "finesse" Carolina rig with a floating worm and allow the floating worm to do provide the action.  A finesse C-Rig doesn't require a small worm, either.  My go-to is typically a 7-8" worm.  With this presentation, I want the weight to get the worm down, but not really to sink all the way through the muck on the bottom, so light bullet or barrel weights are important.

 

[MichaelCopeland]

1 hour ago, Catt said:

 

I've thought about trying a weightless C-rig before, but didn't know how much sense it made. After seeing this pic it makes a lot of sense, considering I know you know what you're doing. Think I'm gonna give it a shot. Is that a wacky rigged Swamp Crawler or just a finesse worm?

[Catt]

@MichaelCopeland I like using a Trick Worm for additional weight, another option is Bass Assassin's Tapout Worm.

 

I know the picture doesn't look like a Trick Worm but it is, don't know why the ends curled.

 

With everyone going gaga over Wacky Rigging Senkos they're overlooking other deadly worms.

 

I like this setup when bottom grass is not that tall or around brush & timber.

[CroakHunter]

@Catt Why a swivel and not a very small split shot? To minimize line twist?

[Catt]

Just now, CroakHunter said:

@Catt Why a swivel and not a very small split shot? To minimize line twist?

 

Added weight & eliminates line twist ?

[CroakHunter]

2 birds, 1 stone. Nice!

[Catt]

Y'all really want confidence with bottom contact lures?

 

Learn ROF; Rate Of Fall & how it effects each style of plastic 

 

Find a swimming pool, pond or lake with clear water & a clean bottom. You'll want at least 8-10' of depth.

 

Throw a weightless, 1/8 oz, & 1/4 oz Texas Rig unpegged with a straight tail worm, curl tail (hook tail) worm, ribbon tail worm, lizards, & creatures.

 

Pay close attention to the speed at which they fall & the action created by each weight.

 

Ya wanna talk "reaction" lures!

[MichaelCopeland]

9 hours ago, Catt said:

@MichaelCopeland I like using a Trick Worm for additional weight, another option is Bass Assassin's Tapout Worm.

 

I know the picture doesn't look like a Trick Worm but it is, don't know why the ends curled.

 

With everyone going gaga over Wacky Rigging Senkos they're overlooking other deadly worms.

 

I like this setup when bottom grass is not that tall or around brush & timber.

Gotta get me some trick worms. What kind and size hook do you recommend?

[Catt]

46 minutes ago, MichaelCopeland said:

Gotta get me some trick worms. What kind and size hook do you recommend?

 

Personally I use 2/0 straight round bend for Wacky Rigging & Texas Rigging Finesse & Trick Worms.

[ClackerBuzz]

On 9/21/2017 at 2:29 AM, Dorado said:

I used to dread fishing weeds until I tried a weightless Zoom Trick Worm (candy bug).

I used to dread dragging senkos in weeds b/c the flat head hangs up so much.  yes they like the popping free but sometimes it definitely not what they want.  then i saw the tip to put a glass/plastic bead on the line.  ur senko will slip thru weeds like butter.

[MichaelCopeland]

1 hour ago, Catt said:

 

Personally I use 2/0 straight round bend for Wacky Rigging & Texas Rigging Finesse & Trick Worms.

Picked up some junebug Zoom Trick Worms a little while ago. Don't think I have any 2/O straight shank round bends, I've got some in offset for sure. Would those work?

[Catt]

2 hours ago, ClackerBuzz said:

I used to dread dragging senkos in weeds b/c the flat head hangs up so much.  yes they like the popping free but sometimes it definitely not what they want.  then i saw the tip to put a glass/plastic bead on the line.  ur senko will slip thru weeds like butter.

Turn em around backwards ?

 

1 hour ago, MichaelCopeland said:

Picked up some junebug Zoom Trick Worms a little while ago. Don't think I have any 2/O straight shank round bends, I've got some in offset for sure. Would those work?

Yes, I just prefer straight shank over EWG or offset for everything up to the size of a Senkos.

[MichaelCopeland]

2 hours ago, Catt said:

Turn em around backwards ?

 

Yes, I just prefer straight shank over EWG or offset for everything up to the size of a Senkos.

I've got some Eagle Claw weedless 2/O bait holders. That's the closest thing I have to a straight shank round bend, more of an oval bend I guess...lol. Think I'll give them a try and see what happens.