reb67 Posted September 13, 2017 Posted September 13, 2017 The reason for the question in the title is this. I have 4 rods that I don't keep on the boat that I grab when I go out with someone else on their boat, well while I was get things together for my outing this weekend with my friend he called to see what I was doing and I told him that I hadn't fished with these rods this season yet so I was stretching the kinks out of the line. His response was WHAT!!! I've never heard of such a thing. I can't remember where I heard or read about doing this but I know I did. So who else does this or am I just wasting time. Quote
Super User deep Posted September 13, 2017 Super User Posted September 13, 2017 I stretch them by setting the hook on fish and fighting them. Seriously, I don't think stretching FC too much is a good idea, unlike nylon. 2 Quote
riverbasser Posted September 13, 2017 Posted September 13, 2017 Why would it have kinks? Maybe coils from being spooled for awhile in which case I would cast it out in the yard and walk backwards until I got close to the end. I would then start reeling it back onto the reel tight and spray it with line conditioner every 25 ft. Good to go Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 13, 2017 Super User Posted September 13, 2017 Without a boat to run the line out behind without anything tied on to take any twist out, stretching FC could weaken it. I often run both FC and mono lines behing my boat after fishing, before I put the spinning rods away at the rods away to untwist the line. Tom 2 Quote
Super User geo g Posted September 13, 2017 Super User Posted September 13, 2017 Line conditioner when you put the rods away at the end of a trip, and line conditioner at the start of each trip. I use floro often and it works. 1 Quote
reb67 Posted September 14, 2017 Author Posted September 14, 2017 What type do you use I've tried Reel Magic it seem to me it weaken the line. 1 Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted September 14, 2017 Super User Posted September 14, 2017 I do it all the time with nylon/copoly - works well and there's at least one study showing it actually strengthens the line. It also takes out some of the initial "stretchiness" associated with nylon based lines. That said, you have to be very careful doing it to fluoro. If you pull hard enough to induce permanent deformation, you have potentially weakened the line. 1 Quote
Super User geo g Posted September 14, 2017 Super User Posted September 14, 2017 I actually use an electric contact spray that is about 1/4 the price and works well as a line conditioner. Quote
Super User islandbass Posted September 14, 2017 Super User Posted September 14, 2017 I've used to do that with mono and it seems to work, but I've decided to "forget about it," since the coils, other than looking ugly, does not seem to negatively affect my fishing. I don't know it that is such a good idea with fc line. While fc stretches like mono, it usually does not possess the same resilience (ability to contract back to normal). I learned this a while back so perhaps formulations have changed in fc line to improve its resilience, so my concern might no longer be a concern. Quote
jbrew73 Posted September 14, 2017 Posted September 14, 2017 i do it all the time. it does a good job removing memory from the line and its not like you're putting 20 lbs of force on it. you just put 2-3 lbs of "tension" on it and spool it back up. larry nixon recommended this at a fishing expo.. works for me 1 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted September 14, 2017 Global Moderator Posted September 14, 2017 I would never stretch a line out like that especially flouro. You are taking a very real chance that you've weakened the line beyond repair especially if useing a cheaper quality product. Its not like mono where it would recover. Flouro does not. Just spray some conditioner on it when you're done. Mike Quote
RichF Posted September 14, 2017 Posted September 14, 2017 I do it with fluoro and don't have any issues. Quote
Super User fishballer06 Posted September 14, 2017 Super User Posted September 14, 2017 KVD Line and Lure = problem solved. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted September 14, 2017 Super User Posted September 14, 2017 Copoly or mono, sure. Fluoro, rarely necessary. I do use KVD L&L religiously. Quote
mattkenzer Posted September 14, 2017 Posted September 14, 2017 I will walk the line (braid, Fluoro or mono) off the spool and reel it back in to reduce line twist (actually quite often) .... i do not stretch it though. I also use line conditioner. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted September 14, 2017 Super User Posted September 14, 2017 I think the OP is referring to memory, not line twist. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted September 14, 2017 Super User Posted September 14, 2017 Still, good advice for maintaining spinning gear. Quote
Super User Catt Posted September 14, 2017 Super User Posted September 14, 2017 5 hours ago, jbrew73 said: i do it all the time. it does a good job removing memory from the line and its not like you're putting 20 lbs of force on it. you just put 2-3 lbs of "tension" on it and spool it back up. larry nixon recommended this at a fishing expo.. works for me “If you haven’t been out in a week or so, take two minutes to hook your line to something and stretch it,” Nixon said. “Reel it back in with some tension and your first cast will feel like brand-new line. Fluorocarbon doesn’t absorb water, so it will coil if it sits on your reel for too long. If it coils, you’re not going to be able to feel what your worm is doing down there.” Larry Nixon Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 14, 2017 Super User Posted September 14, 2017 Review; Stretch the line by hooking something and pull on it, it will feel like new line; so every bass you catch renews your line. Tie the line to something and put 2-3 lbs force, then wind it back on the reel; so every time I snag something I stretch my line and renew it. Nylon line strengthens by pull on it, you can weaken FC line by putting too much force; so my mono line gets stronger catching bass and FC weakens. We talking about memory, the line taking a set after being on the reel, line conditioner we resolve that problem; so we should use line conditioner to relieve memory; sonic I soak my reel spool in KVD over night my 20 lb FC will be limp enough to use on my 2500 size spinning reel. The reason every pro angler buys or is given large spools FC/mono/coploy/hybrid line is so they can change it before every event with fresh line and most change thier line every day of an event is line wears out and weakens with use. We, the recreational bass anglers change our line annually or maybe monthly for some. Memory is an issue when tightly wound onto small diameter reel spools. Good advice is to manage your line however it works for you, it the only thing between you and the bass you are trying to catch. Tom Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted September 14, 2017 Super User Posted September 14, 2017 1 hour ago, WRB said: Review; Stretch the line by hooking something and pull on it, it will feel like new line; so every bass you catch renews your line. Tie the line to something and put 2-3 lbs force, then wind it back on the reel; so every time I snag something I stretch my line and renew it. Nylon line strengthens by pull on it, you can weaken FC line by putting too much force; so my mono line gets stronger catching bass and FC weakens. We talking about memory, the line taking a set after being on the reel, line conditioner we resolve that problem; so we should use line conditioner to relieve memory; sonic I soak my reel spool in KVD over night my 20 lb FC will be limp enough to use on my 2500 size spinning reel. The reason every pro angler buys or is given large spools FC/mono/coploy/hybrid line is so they can change it before every event with fresh line and most change thier line every day of an event is line wears out and weakens with use. We, the recreational bass anglers change our line annually or maybe monthly for some. Memory is an issue when tightly wound onto small diameter reel spools. Good advice is to manage your line however it works for you, it the only thing between you and the bass you are trying to catch. Tom Could you edit the above into something a bit more coherent please. The only line that makes sense is the last one. The rest I'm still trying to figure out...but in regards to what I think was related to my post, some further details to clarify: The Technical Inspection Association, a German entity that provides testing and certification for that countries businesses and products, found that in nylon based lines tested, when pre-stretched for one minute to 75% of it’s breaking strain, their (respective lines) breaking strength actually increased by 1/2-1 lb. depending on brand, and their stretch (% elongation) dropped between 3%-9% from original calculations. In other words, pre-stretching your line can make it stronger and less “stretchy”. To my knowledge, they did not test fluorocarbons. Given their findings, just "catching a bass" would not in any way affect your lines strength as you summarized. Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 14, 2017 Super User Posted September 14, 2017 7 hours ago, Team9nine said: Could you edit the above into something a bit more coherent please. The only line that makes sense is the last one. The rest I'm still trying to figure out...but in regards to what I think was related to my post, some further details to clarify: The Technical Inspection Association, a German entity that provides testing and certification for that countries businesses and products, found that in nylon based lines tested, when pre-stretched for one minute to 75% of it’s breaking strain, their (respective lines) breaking strength actually increased by 1/2-1 lb. depending on brand, and their stretch (% elongation) dropped between 3%-9% from original calculations. In other words, pre-stretching your line can make it stronger and less “stretchy”. To my knowledge, they did not test fluorocarbons. Given their findings, just "catching a bass" would not in any way affect your lines strength as you summarized. My tongue and check humor sometimes goes over like a fart in church. Tom 1 Quote
Super User MickD Posted September 17, 2017 Super User Posted September 17, 2017 On 9/13/2017 at 8:48 PM, Team9nine said: I do it all the time with nylon/copoly - works well and there's at least one study showing it actually strengthens the line. It also takes out some of the initial "stretchiness" associated with nylon based lines. That said, you have to be very careful doing it to fluoro. If you pull hard enough to induce permanent deformation, you have potentially weakened the line. This post is good testimony in support of your "The true facts of fishing are neither believed nor desired." Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted September 17, 2017 Global Moderator Posted September 17, 2017 Now I have to worry about if I should stretch my line?? And if I did, was it enough?? If you don't have confidence in the line for whatever reason...Just change the stuff!! Mike 1 1 Quote
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