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Will ya catch fish? Probably. Will ya land 'em? Not so much. Depends on how thick the cover is. If you are planning on fishing lily pads or wood, you could be in trouble if they wrap you up. I've learned from the smart guys that the absolute minimum seems to be 30-lb. and the heavier you go, the better off you will be. Before choosing a line weight, I would recommend you give some thought to the setting in which you plan to fish. Hope this helps!

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I won't even consider less than 50, 99% of the time I'm using 65. 15 could work, but if you find yourself in a heavy cover situation and that fish wraps you up in it, you may be in trouble. For open water applications you could probably get away with it, though. 

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Surely you're not talking about baitcasting gear, right? That would be a nightmare

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Sure you can cast that frog a mile, but between and heavy action rod, cover, and hook sets, you will find yourself breaking off a lot. Personally 50-65lb for me.  

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Ditto all the above

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

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I have fished frogs in lily pads with 15lb mono, and it worked okay but I would step up to 30lb or 40lb braid, then you can easily pull the lily pads out if you land a fish.

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I landed a 10lber on 8lb test Excalibur silverthread coploymere line. But I lost a bigger bass when she hit like a PT boat and took my bait down in the thicker weeds. My rod setup was way too light for this bigger bass. I set the hook and tried to get her head up on a very long cast. She had the strong will of her own. I seen her come above the surface headed to my bait before she hit like a gator, I knew I casted too far. My point is the heavier line test the better if your frogging in the weeds.

 

i needed a tow truck on that day lol but a inshore light saltwater tackle setup would of landed my new state record.

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I used 17lb flouro rigged with a ZOOM Horney Toad in duck weed once, and caught a fatty. That's about the limit of me using nothing but 50lb braid for frogs.

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In a "OPEN WATER" situation you should not have a issue... Please check this "LINK" out it gives you a very good starting point on line size and fishing lures...

 

Should I go with 40 or 65? Or somewhere in between?

We at another site strongly suggest focusing your frog and toad fishing at 50 lb test. We like 40 lb test for when you need to make super long casts to cover relatively sparse weedbeds that don’t pose much threat to losing fish. The smaller diameter will add a couple extra feet to your casts which will let you cover a lot more water. Use 65 when fishing closer wood or docks. 50 lb test is the ultimate in-between size that will work just about everywhere and in any situation.

 

 

http://www.another site/blog/fishing-line-guide/

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30 pound test braid is more than enough for me to pull +8 pound bass out of heavy cover but you can use heavier braid if you want.

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My brother came bass fishing with me years ago when we were using mono before the new lines were developed. He had on 20lb test. We used a split shot rigged black 6" creme worm. We put the boat off a island we're the weeds disappeared anchored and casted towards the island and fished the worm very slowly back to the boat. He had a 4lber on and she went deeper into the weeds, he pulled up a large ball of weeds with the bass on the bottom of the ball. She tangled all up in the weeds trying to get away.  So in the weeds your line test matters. Think on what test you want to use and go one test stronger. Failure isn't an option.

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Personally I wouldn't frog with that small of braid regardless of the equipment. If you're setting the hook like you should on a frog, you're most likely going to have major issues with line digging in. You can get away with using a little smaller line on a spinning reel, but if you're using a baitcaster I don't go any less than 50 lb.

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NO! LOL. I don't even use less than 20# on my spinning combos. You'll most likely be around heavy cover because that' where the frog excels. That 15# will dig into your spool. I have 50# on my frog rod and 30# on a different BC combo. I wouldn't go lower than 30 for frogs.

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XXH swimbait rod can't lift 15 lbs of weight, 8 lbs dead weight is about max. Don't believe that, try lifting a gallon jug of water with your rod.

15 lb braid is about .007 dia or 4 lb mono,very small diameter to be tieing on heavy wire frig hook. The next problem it will cut your fingers if you pull on the line and dig down into any bait 100 size bait casting reel. There isn't a reason to use such small diameter line in cover with frogs.

Tom

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I guess 15# mono wouldn't pull an 11 lb 3 oz out of matted grass either!

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Would I select 15# braid for frogging?

 

Ugh! No!

 

Not that it wouldn't work but it would create more problems than it would solve.

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15 braid is actually really really small.  30lb is much more reasonable, and easier to work with.  unless you just happen to have 15 braid and nothing to do with it, i would recommend 30lb at least.  

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I use as low as 20lb braid for frogs- but it's 1/4oz customs being thrown on a medium rod and only onto the very edge of the heavy cover.  

 

If you want to throw 1/2oz frogs into cover you're going to want 40# minimum.  Even up north you really need that extra beef to stand up to the weight of the fish and all the weeds.

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On 9/14/2017 at 11:57 PM, Catt said:

I guess 15# mono wouldn't pull an 11 lb 3 oz out of matted grass either!

catchoftheday.jpg

 

Only if it's Big Game.  I heard that stuff is spun from Zeus's beard, forged in a volcano, extruded through a diamond and cooled under a full moon at high tide! ???  

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Anything is possible. Remember braid is not like mono or fluorocarbon.  Knots only test out approximately 50% of line test. 

 Also quality of braids vary widely between brands. 

  Fishing reeds in Florida they cut you off using even 65# test braid. 

There is no simple answer. 

  I would only drop below 50#test where casting distance required it. 

In reeds I only use gamma hollow core braid 16 strand as I've never been cut off using it.

 I use 50# sunline braid or samurai  when fishing edges and docks walking the dog retrieve.

Visibility of the line has never been an issue for me.

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I use 50lb braid for frogs and jigs in heavy cover, never had a problem but sometimes wish I could get more distance.

 

Used this setup stripper fishing recently in open water, the fish were so easy to land I eventually switched to 12lb mono on crank rod to get a little more fight.

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