Can't get hookset on senko!?

[Catt]

3 hours ago, islandbass said:

What size for the 5" senko? Maybe 2/0 or 3/0?

 

I was thinking about trying this type of hook soon with senkos so this subject couldn't have come at a better time.

When Gary Yamamoto first invented the Senko he designed to be used with a 3/0-4/0 offset round bend hook.

 

Do not use thin wire hooks ?

[JustinJ]

3/0 ewg. Never had a problem

[Sword of the Lord]

7 minutes ago, JustinJ said:

3/0 ewg. Never had a problem

Same. 3/0 EWG Gammy hooks.

[finatic]

18 hours ago, Ksam1234 said:

So today I went out and tried using a senko for the first time.. well it sure does get bit but I couldn't get a d**n fish in the boat.. I was using a 5 inch with a 4/0 and 5/0 ewg gamakatsu hook. I just couldn't seem to get a good hookset on them for some reason. Was using a M and fast tip baitcaster. I tried waiting for the fish to take it then set. Tried feeling the weight then set and just tried. Hard set when I felt the tick.. no matter what I couldn't get it done. Any help or tips with that? 

 

I was having the same problem, then I changed to a 2/0 hook and now I get hook sets. I even got this monster the other night (using the 2/0 hook on a senko).

 

 

 

[Angealy]

Wow this is really something, But i'll try my best to help out.

Hmm, Where do we start?

I have caught many bass on senkos/lizards/ribbon tail/etc the list goes on.

I use a light five foot ugly stik spinning combo and use a M six foot bait caster with 10 pound and 14 pound mono.

I'll rig my senko weighted/weightless/T-Rig/Wacky/etc, This depends on the wind and location i am fishing.

I just catch fish, I have used just about everything you can use and still catch them.

I've used value pack hooks,eagle claw hooks, hooks by owner/gamakatsu/etc the list goes on.

I have used hooks ranging from anywhere to a size 8-3/0 in bass/trout/panfish.

As for weight, I keep it simple start off with small and work your way up depending on wind/location.

As for your senko getting bit: I would have to say it's the work of a panfish/trout/etc.

 

 

I'll keep it simple: Find what works for you and let the fish tell you what they want that day.

Set the hook if one of these are true.

Taps or Seeing your line moving.

Hopefully this is helpful in some regards.

 

 

[contium]

14 hours ago, Catt said:

When Gary Yamamoto first invented the Senko he designed to be used with a 3/0-4/0 offset round bend hook.

 

Do not use thin wire hooks ?

Gary designed these hooks for Senkos. And yes, they are light wire.

 

https://store.baits.com/product.php?productid=111&cat=42&page=1

[Catt]

2 hours ago, contium said:

Gary designed these hooks for Senkos. And yes, they are light wire.

 

https://store.baits.com/product.php?productid=111&cat=42&page=1

 

Uh! I have a copy of the original article by Russ (Bass-Dozer) Comeau, Gary Yamamoto, & George Welcome on the release of the Senko. Gary recommend the offset round bend hook in 3/0 or 4/0!

 

[Ktho]

1 hour ago, Catt said:

 

Uh! I have a copy of the original article by Russ (Bass-Dozer) Comeau, Gary Yamamoto, & George Welcome on the release of the Senko. Gary recommend the offset round bend hook in 3/0 or 4/0!

 

 

From the article

"Most of the time when fishing Senkos weightless, I am using the 9-series (five-inch) Senko, and I prefer to use the 63-Series size 3/0 Gamakatsu EWG with an offset shank"

 

I use a 3/0 Gama EWG with the 5" senko and it's awesome. For the thin and pro senko a 3/0 straight shank worm hook is my go to. 

[WRB]

"Can't get a hook set on a Senko" is unusual, most anglers tend to gut hook bass using a Senko! The smaller size the hook is the easier a bass can swallow the Senko, there is a optimum size hook for weedless "Texas" rigging a Senko. If Gary Yamamoto is promoting Owner #5167 CPS hooks referenced then he feels that is the correct hook style to use at this time. 

I can't see any reason to use a EWG style hook or a hook size larger than size 3/0 for 5" Senko's T-rigged.

Tom

 

[Jaderose]

I too would recommend downsizing your hook.  I use the good old 3/0 Gammy EWG offset for pretty much every size Senko and it can't be beat.  Occasionally, I will use a bigger hook if I expect to use something else a little bigger after the Senko and I can tell the difference on the Senko.  Nothing about it feels right.

 

[islandbass]

@Catt: Thanks!

[Catt]

11 hours ago, Ktho said:

 

From the article

"Most of the time when fishing Senkos weightless, I am using the 9-series (five-inch) Senko, and I prefer to use the 63-Series size 3/0 Gamakatsu EWG with an offset shank"

 

I use a 3/0 Gama EWG with the 5" senko and it's awesome. For the thin and pro senko a 3/0 straight shank worm hook is my go to. 

 

I aint talking internet articles but hard copy on paper the old fashion way.

 

Aint saying hooks choices haven't change ?

[contium]

By all means use what works for you. Gary currently recommends the Owner TwistLock Light Hook that he helped design. From Gary's website linked above: "With *** from bass fishing professional and lure designer Gary Yamamoto, the TwistLOCKT Light was created as the ideal hook for rigging Senko-style baits and other thinner profile plastics."

 

https://store.baits.com/product.php?productid=111&cat=42&page=1

[BubbaBassin’]

On 9/9/2017 at 12:19 PM, Further North said:

Tough call without seeing what's happening...Can we assume you are Texas rigging with the EWG hooks?

 

It seems to me that most of the bass that eat my Senkos either eat enough of the bait to make hooking easy...or they self hook when they try to run with the bait.

 

...Should probably ask: You are either leaving the hook tip exposed...are are just barely tucking it into the top of the Senko, correct?

Soooo, what happens if you don’t leave the point exposed? Asking for a friend.

[NYWayfarer]

On ‎9‎/‎9‎/‎2017 at 6:27 PM, Angry John said:

Why not run them wacky with a 2/0 hook.  Never miss that way.

I agree. You can use Wacky Weedless if there is a lot of vegetation. Or you can downsize to a 1 or 1/0 hook and a 4" Senko.

[thinkingredneck]

Maybe try switching to a trickworm.

[Further North]

1 hour ago, FishingNoob said:

Soooo, what happens if you don’t leave the point exposed? Asking for a friend.

Couldn't tell you, never tried it...