What's wrong with my new Minn Kota Ulterra?

[iabass8]

7 minutes ago, tcbass said:

 

I added a better pic. 

 

The positive wire goes from the battery to the break and then from the break to the front of the boat to the TM. The old pic was just at a bad angle.

 

 

Where would the fuse be? Would it have a fuse it if has the breaker? 

 

 

So the fuse would look like it's working but it in fact is not, so that I should just change the fuse and it should work?

Your TM has a circuit breaker, not a fuse like your on board charger, electronics, or accessories. 

 

When you turn your breaker to OFF, your TM should not turn on or get any power what so ever. When you turn it on, it should be getting power. If it does this, your breaker is doing it's job. It is there to protect your batteries/boat from a fire when in case of overheating. 

 

When your TM has it's issue, is your breaker being flipped to OFF? If the answer to this question is no, and the breaker stays to "on", your breaker is not the issue. 

 

If the breaker is being flipped to OFF, then you either have a wiring issue, or a breaker issue. 

 

I have no idea what the wires /w the fuses /w the red caps are that are hooked to your TM battery. 

[tcbass]

2 minutes ago, iabass8 said:

Your TM has a circuit breaker, not a fuse like your on board charger, electronics, or accessories. 

 

When you turn your breaker to OFF, your TM should not turn on or get any power what so ever. When you turn it on, it should be getting power. If it does this, your breaker is doing it's job. It is there to protect your batteries/boat from a fire when in case of overheating. 

 

When your TM has it's issue, is your breaker being flipped to OFF? If the answer to this question is no, and the breaker stays to "on", your breaker is not the issue. 

 

If the breaker is being flipped to OFF, then you either have a wiring issue, or a breaker issue. 

 

I have no idea what the wires /w the fuses /w the red caps are that are hooked to your TM battery. 

 

 

Breaker is staying on and I can turn the Ulterra right back on again and attempt to deploy where it will do it for another 1/2 second before shutting off again.

 

 

The red fuses/wires are from the charger. I left this un-connected in the latest pic.

 

 

 

And correct, when I have the breaker off the TM and small fish locater get no power and can't do anything.

 

 

So, all my Ulterra has is that breaker, there is no fuse?

[iabass8]

3 minutes ago, tcbass said:

 

 

Breaker is staying on and I can turn the Ulterra right back on again and attempt to deploy where it will do it for another 1/2 second before shutting off again.

 

 

The red fuses/wires are from the charger. I left this un-connected in the latest pic.

 

 

 

And correct, when I have the breaker off the TM and small fish locater get no power and can't do anything.

 

 

So, all my Ulterra has is that breaker, there is no fuse?

If you have a fish locator on your TM, take it off...you should NEVER have anything on your TM batteries (especially 24+v TM) except for the TM and onboard charger. Put it on your cranking battery. You're drawing down that battery and your TM will not get the power of 2 full batteries. If one battery is at 99% and the other is at 87%, you are only getting 87% on a 24v series instead of 99%. 

 

If the TM worked fine at the dealer, you have new and verified good batteries, then it's something in your boat. Being your TM is hardwired, there's only 2 things it can be. Your breaker or the wiring.  Have you checked the wiring at the bow? You haven't said anything about the bow connections. You can always take the positive TM wire off the breaker and put it directly to the battery to test it. If it works then , you have a breaker issue.(Don't use the TM w/o hooking the breaker back up after testing...) If that doesn't fix it, the only thing left is your boat TM wiring. 

 

I believe the Ulterra has a 3a fuse in the head but it's for the US2 connection, not your TM. 

[tcbass]

21 minutes ago, iabass8 said:

If you have a fish locator on your TM, take it off...you should NEVER have anything on your TM batteries (especially 24+v TM) except for the TM and onboard charger. Put it on your cranking battery. You're drawing down that battery and your TM will not get the power of 2 full batteries. If one battery is at 99% and the other is at 87%, you are only getting 87% on a 24v series instead of 99%. 

 

If the TM worked fine at the dealer, you have new and verified good batteries, then it's something in your boat. Being your TM is hardwired, there's only 2 things it can be. Your breaker or the wiring.  Have you checked the wiring at the bow? You haven't said anything about the bow connections. You can always take the positive TM wire off the breaker and put it directly to the battery to test it. If it works then , you have a breaker issue.(Don't use the TM w/o hooking the breaker back up after testing...) If that doesn't fix it, the only thing left is your boat TM wiring. 

 

I believe the Ulterra has a 3a fuse in the head but it's for the US2 connection, not your TM. 

 

 

Ok, I'll disconnect the fish locator. It it did work fine with the fish locator on it for like 10-12 trips. 

 

 

 

I un-mounted the TM and brought it to a dealer and they hooked it up straight to a battery and it ran. So, the TM isn't the problem. 

 

The wires in the bow look good. 

 

 

Maybe the US2 fuse in the head is blown and causing the problem?

 

Or the fish locator was too much?

[iabass8]

2 minutes ago, tcbass said:

 

 

Ok, I'll disconnect the fish locator. It it did work fine with the fish locator on it for like 10-12 trips. 

 

 

 

I un-mounted the TM and brought it to a dealer and they hooked it up straight to a battery and it ran. So, the TM isn't the problem. 

 

The wires in the bow look good. 

 

 

Maybe the US2 fuse in the head is blown and causing the problem?

 

Or the fish locator was too much?

The fish locator on your TM battery isn't going to cause this issue. It will just cause you to replace your batteries sooner than later. 

 

The US2 fuse wouldn't have anything to do /w the power or losing power on your TM.  It's just there for your electronics. I think some times people say it causes interference on your locator. If it worked fine at your dealer on their batteries, then it isn't anything in the TM or the US2 fuse. I get you're looking for a 3 minute fix but this is in your boat unless you're missing telling us something.

 

If you feel the bow wiring is clean, and this TM worked fine prior to your out board service..and the only place in theory they would have been during this time would have been back near the batteries..I would start looking there. 

 

Run the TM directly to the batteries. Take the + wire off the breaker and put it directly on the battery post that the breaker + wire came from. If the TM works like this, replace your breaker. If it doesn't work, you have a wiring issue between the back of the boat and the TM. 

 

Hard to diagnose via forums but you've swapped batteries for brand new, you've said all connections are clean and solid, TM has worked fine in the past, and the TM works on your dealers batteries. The only things you didn't take with you to the dealer were the wiring and breaker...Only can be 1 of 2 things now. 

 

You really should have taken your boat to the dealer in the first place and not just the TM being at the time it could have been 10 different things. 

[tcbass]

14 minutes ago, iabass8 said:

The fish locator on your TM battery isn't going to cause this issue. It will just cause you to replace your batteries sooner than later. 

 

The US2 fuse wouldn't have anything to do /w the power or losing power on your TM.  It's just there for your electronics. I think some times people say it causes interference on your locator. If it worked fine at your dealer on their batteries, then it isn't anything in the TM or the US2 fuse. I get you're looking for a 3 minute fix but this is in your boat unless you're missing telling us something.

 

If you feel the bow wiring is clean, and this TM worked fine prior to your out board service..and the only place in theory they would have been during this time would have been back near the batteries..I would start looking there. 

 

Run the TM directly to the batteries. Take the + wire off the breaker and put it directly on the battery post that the breaker + wire came from. If the TM works like this, replace your breaker. If it doesn't work, you have a wiring issue between the back of the boat and the TM. 

 

Hard to diagnose via forums but you've swapped batteries for brand new, you've said all connections are clean and solid, TM has worked fine in the past, and the TM works on your dealers batteries. The only things you didn't take with you to the dealer were the wiring and breaker...Only can be 1 of 2 things now. 

 

You really should have taken your boat to the dealer in the first place and not just the TM being at the time it could have been 10 different things. 

 

 

I was going to but the dealer said only bring in the TM, which sucks because I had to un-mount it and would rather have just brought the boat in. 

 

 

Good to know it can only be one of these two things. 

 

 

[tcbass]

Also, it's always stored inside. 

 

 

When it was at the shop it was parked outside in a huge rainstorm. Maybe something important got wet and ruined or lighting struck nearby and fried some electrical or something?

[tcbass]

 

 

Update:   Solved. 

 

 

 

Problem was a bad breaker. 

 

 

Shout out to Action Fishing Electronics for helping me on such short notice. 

 

And Batteries Plus for keeping my old batteries so I could get them back if the batteries weren't the problem.