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Folks, have a GLX 853c JWR and totally love each it and planned on buying a second.

I have been looking at the GLX 843c MBR and am wondering about the difference and pro's and cons.

This second rod will be with the intention of throwing plastics, jigs and jerks.

 

I am also open to other suggestions, but need to stay with loomis

 

Thanks,

Al

  • Super User
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Pretty much looking at a difference in the taper of the rod. The MBR or Mag Bass Rods have what some what call a versatile taper meaning they are not so much a one trick pony. You can fish a variety of baits on them like spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, swimjigs, texas rigs, jigs, small paddle tails, decent sized jerkbaits, and smaller cranks and lipless baits. I like to think of them as great all purpose rods for folks that can only bring a few rods fishing with them and need them to be able to fish a wide variety of baits. In the Loomis MBR series there is also a 842 and 844. Let the rod model you select be dictated by the weight of the baits your throw and cover you fish.

 

Your 853 is from the jig and worm series. Meaning it is pretty much a "feel" presentation rod so bottom contact baits and weightless plastics. You may find other uses for it but Loomis was thinking more jigs, texas rigs, weightless plastics, shakey heads, etc.

 

I have and 842 and 843 from MHX Hi Mod (these were custom builds but the blanks are very similar to the old Loomis blanks) and a current MBR 844 GLX. I use them for so many different apps it is hard to list. What I can tell you for sure is that I am not a fan of any of the MBR rods for frog fishing, Carolina rigs, or larger jigs fished really deep. Outside of that you can really use them for wide variety of presentations vs a rod from the Jig and Worm series.

 

Like with any other rod your mileage may vary and others experiences may vary.

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  • Super User
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The MBR rods are more versatile as they have a softer tip and while the action is fast, it isn't like the JWR rods. If you plan on using moving baits with the new rod then the MBR is probably your best bet. For me the 843 would be a little to heavy for jerkbaits unless you mean soft plastic jerkbaits but too heavy for anything with trebles. The exception would be larger jerkbaits with size 2 trebles or larger, those will get full penetration but smaller trebles I'd look at an 842 or a different line altogether. The MBR is super versatile but it isn't soft enough for smaller size 6 or 4 trebles, at least not in a 3 power.

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  • Super User
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41 minutes ago, smalljaw67 said:

The MBR rods are more versatile as they have a softer tip and while the action is fast, it isn't like the JWR rods. If you plan on using moving baits with the new rod then the MBR is probably your best bet. For me the 843 would be a little to heavy for jerkbaits unless you mean soft plastic jerkbaits but too heavy for anything with trebles. The exception would be larger jerkbaits with size 2 trebles or larger, those will get full penetration but smaller trebles I'd look at an 842 or a different line altogether. The MBR is super versatile but it isn't soft enough for smaller size 6 or 4 trebles, at least not in a 3 power.

Would the 842c MBR glx  be a better choice given my application? And thanks for sharing your thoughts

  • Super User
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I posted this in your thread in case you didn't see it...

 

Pretty much looking at a difference in the taper of the rod. The MBR or Mag Bass Rods have what some what call a versatile taper meaning they are not so much a one trick pony. You can fish a variety of baits on them like spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, swimjigs, texas rigs, jigs, small paddle tails, decent sized jerkbaits, and smaller cranks and lipless baits. I like to think of them as great all purpose rods for folks that can only bring a few rods fishing with them and need them to be able to fish a wide variety of baits. In the Loomis MBR series there is also a 842 and 844. Let the rod model you select be dictated by the weight of the baits your throw and cover you fish.

 

Your 853 is from the jig and worm series. Meaning it is pretty much a "feel" presentation rod so bottom contact baits and weightless plastics. You may find other uses for it but Loomis was thinking more jigs, texas rigs, weightless plastics, shakey heads, etc.

 

I have and 842 and 843 from MHX Hi Mod (these were custom builds but the blanks are very similar to the old Loomis blanks) and a current MBR 844 GLX. I use them for so many different apps it is hard to list. What I can tell you for sure is that I am not a fan of any of the MBR rods for frog fishing, Carolina rigs, or larger jigs fished really deep. Outside of that you can really use them for wide variety of presentations vs a rod from the Jig and Worm series.

 

Like with any other rod your mileage may vary and others experiences may vary.

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  • Super User
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Thanks......I probably should have ask what the best loomis rod for jerks..........I suspect the MB 110+1 (.5 ounce) is the biggest I will throw 

 

I never thought I would be this much into JB, but I am finding it much more versatile than originally thought 

  • Super User
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I don't have any MBR, but I was surprised at how inept my 803JWR was at throwing jerkbaits.  Sounds like an MBR would be a better fit, based on the two trusted responses above.

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This has been a super useful thread.  I currently have a CR723 IMX that I originally bought to use a general purpose bank rod and while I love it, I have been looking at the GLX 783C MBR as an upgrade for it.  I love the taper on the CR and it sounds like the MBR is the same, so I think my plan will work.  

 

I do have a question to add though, about the power rating on Loomis rods.  I have two rods from the CR line, a Medium Heavy (CR723) and a Light (CR721) and neither of them will (in my opinion) will handle weights in line with the rating on the rods.  The 721 seems heavier than the rating, casting best at the upper end of it's range, around 3/8oz being the sweet spot.  The 723 is fishing lighter then I was expecting, with 1/2oz being about the max the rod feels like it wants to cast.  The upper rating is 3/4oz, but the rod really feels overloaded when I try to push it to that.  At the end of the day I still have a use for each rod, the 721 throwing smaller jerks and topwaters and the 723 for senko-class plastics and 1/4oz jigs.  So I guess my questions are 1) Am I crazy? and 2) In terms of power, is a MBR "3" going to feel the same as a CR "3"?

 

 

 

 

  • Super User
Posted

This also has me looking at the 

GLX MBR 782 which is 6'6"

Going to see if I can demo one this weekend

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This has been a timely thread for me as well. I have a IMX 844C MBR headed to me via the mail, and on the way to a fishing trip, I picked up an IMX 853C JWR. 

 

Fished with the JWR today and was surprised how sensitive it was with bottom contact baits. I was using Sufix 832 braid with a FC leader and it was transmitting everything. 

 

However, my concern is that the 844 MBR isn't needed. Now the 853 is a MH Xtra Fast vs. the 844 Heavy Fast and I was planning to use the MBR for Trigs and Crigs. Reading this thread has helped me with understanding the tapers and different uses of each rod. 

 

So perhaps I'm still a bit confused. Or perhaps I keep both and use the MBR for the "jack of all trades".

  • Super User
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The only other thing that crosses my mind is.......do you need a GLX MBR since I can't imagine ultimate sensitivity is a nessessaty........admittedly I could be wrong

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2 hours ago, NHBull said:

The only other thing that crosses my mind is.......do you need a GLX MBR since I can't imagine ultimate sensitivity is a nessessaty........admittedly I could be wrong

 

You don't "need" it but it will definitely put a smile on your face. B) It does a lot of things very well... Have quite a few pricey sticks but still one of my all-time favorites for sure. 

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19 hours ago, byram bassturd said:

If you dont mind the length at 7ft, the GLX 842 MBR is a great jerkbait stick.

I use a GLX MBR782 for smaller jerkbaits and it is nothing short of amazing. I have to believe the 843/783 would be perfect for 100's and 110's (three hook baits).

15 hours ago, NHBull said:

The only other thing that crosses my mind is.......do you need a GLX MBR since I can't imagine ultimate sensitivity is a nessessaty........admittedly I could be wrong

Absolutely do not need a GLX or similar quality graphite rod for jerkbaits. For me, it just works perfect so I dedicate mine to throwing Pointer 78s and X-Rap 10s.

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Thanks Gents

It's between the GLX MBR 843c and the GLX MBR 783c

Everything I own is an or over 7", the 6'6" concerns me as I would make this a multipurpose setup

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I had been moving towards 6'9" or 6'8" rods- selling several 7' rods. However, Fishing an IMX 853c and an e6x 843c the last two days, I'm back to the 7 footers. 

 

In fact, I used the 843c for topwaters today and preferred that over my shorter top water rod.

 

I would go with your gut- 843c. ?

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