Tom18xs Posted January 3, 2016 Posted January 3, 2016 I just discovered this forum. It's has great value. Can anyone validate the accuracy of fish ID symbols? If they are accurate seems folks should use them more to better interpret what is being displayed on screen. Good be a great learning tool. Example: I have to come to know that bass like to hug the bottom. So if you are fishing and you see displays and not sure if it's a fish or object wouldn't the fish ID be a good way to learn what's displayed on your screen? Now if I'm giving Fish ID to much credit then my idea is a bit in vain. I have spent some time on a graph and still have my doubts at times. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted January 3, 2016 Super User Posted January 3, 2016 21 minutes ago, Tom18xs said: I just discovered this forum. It's has great value. Can anyone validate the accuracy of fish ID symbols? If they are accurate seems folks should use them more to better interpret what is being displayed on screen. Good be a great learning tool. Example: I have to come to know that bass like to hug the bottom. So if you are fishing and you see displays and not sure if it's a fish or object wouldn't the fish ID be a good way to learn what's displayed on your screen? Now if I'm giving Fish ID to much credit then my idea is a bit in vain. I have spent some time on a graph and still have my doubts at times. Humminbird's FishID is a fishing tool that I use to determine if returns are fish I want to try to catch. I show that with the screenshots I have posted. The software has filters that only assign the symbols if those returns meet the criteria to be assigned the symbols. Other brands will assign a fish symbol for anything and everything. 4 Quote
Tom18xs Posted January 5, 2016 Posted January 5, 2016 ccNow that is interesting. Especially, locating bass on the ledges on the bottom. Quote
Bass newb Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 2015 73 sv garmin A short afternoon of not finding any fish at an unfamiliar area of my river. I ran up on these guys leaving this area. They said they couldnt get the fish to bite anything they threw. Right as they left I threw a rattletrap about 30 yards from where they were and caught a 2lb'er. I threw for a while longer and never caught another. Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted March 3, 2016 Posted March 3, 2016 That pic shows balls of baitfish (shad?) As you discovered, find the bait and predators will be near 1 Quote
s freud Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 On 3/8/2016 at 6:58 PM, Frog Turds said: Helix 5 With HD transducer... What are we looking at here? I'm still learning and need some descriptions Quote
s freud Posted March 24, 2016 Posted March 24, 2016 Thanks Frog. Submerged trees? Is that the tree tops then? I am leaning heavily toward getting a helix 5si in the near future and want to learn to read it as best I can. I recognize the best way will be playing with it once I get it, but you all and this thread are so helpful! That is a big hit to my budget so I want to make sure I get a good return (no pun intended, lol). I keep arguing with myself on DI vs SI due to the price difference. Hard to pay more for a fishfinder than I did for my whole boat/trailer/9.8 motor setup! Quote
boostr Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 On 3/24/2016 at 1:44 PM, Frog Turds said: s freud, I'd get the SI/DI combo over just the DI...yes those are the trees/tops standing...best way to looks at a SI image is think of the image as a piece of paper then fold the piece of paper along that center boat line first...then where you see where the bottom starts on either side fold it again so the 2 folds make 90 degree angles...all the dark is the water column directly below the boat and bottom then goes out from directly below the boat to how ever many feet you set the graph to on either side... print off an SI image and fold it like that to wrap your mind around it if necessary... ⬆⬆⬆ This, or check out the Humminbird web site, they explain the same thing but with a picture reference Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted March 28, 2016 Super User Posted March 28, 2016 On 3/24/2016 at 9:40 AM, s freud said: Thanks Frog. Submerged trees? Is that the tree tops then? I am leaning heavily toward getting a helix 5si in the near future and want to learn to read it as best I can. I recognize the best way will be playing with it once I get it, but you all and this thread are so helpful! That is a big hit to my budget so I want to make sure I get a good return (no pun intended, lol). I keep arguing with myself on DI vs SI due to the price difference. Hard to pay more for a fishfinder than I did for my whole boat/trailer/9.8 motor setup! Doug Vahrenberg has a lot of videos on YouTube about Humminbirds. This one is the folded paper demo discussed: 3 Quote
desmobob Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 On March 24, 2016 at 9:40 AM, s freud said: I keep arguing with myself on DI vs SI due to the price difference. Hard to pay more for a fishfinder than I did for my whole boat/trailer/9.8 motor setup! Like most guys, I'd recommend getting the SI/DI combo unit with the biggest screen you can afford. I'm sure you will not regret it! DI is great, but SI is like looking at a photo of the bottom. It's pretty shocking when you look at the display and can plainly see exactly what you're passing over. Imagine being able to spot a tree laying in the water 25 feet to one side of your boat. And you can see which branches are on the bottom, which are upright, and where fish are holding in it. I've had mine a year and I'm still amazed by it. Tight lines, Bob Quote
Neil McCauley Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 More traditional sonar images please if anyone has em. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted March 28, 2016 Super User Posted March 28, 2016 13 minutes ago, Neil McCauley said: More traditional sonar images please if anyone has em. Of what subject? I have hundreds of screen shots. Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 Frog thoe Helix5 pics are really impressive. On 3/24/2016 at 8:26 PM, Frog Turds said: s freud, mostly rocks, big boulders and sand...5th one down looks like part of an old smaller bridge support of some kind maybe and the second to the last is submerged trees, most vertical... this one below, i don't know what that is sticking up with like 4 squared off finger type things...my feeling its man made but don't know myself what it could be... Similar to this object I found. I also have no idea what it is. 1 Quote
Neil McCauley Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 On 3/28/2016 at 5:30 PM, Wayne P. said: Of what subject? I have hundreds of screen shots. Whatever you think is worthwhile, I'm still new to sonar. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted April 3, 2016 Super User Posted April 3, 2016 On 4/2/2016 at 0:32 AM, Neil McCauley said: Whatever you think is worthwhile, I'm still new to sonar. Summer profile to determine the thermocline level to eliminate where the fish will not be and where they will be: http://s238.photobucket.com/user/WayneP_photos/media/Sonar%20Shots/HRoctThermo.jpg.html?sort=3&o=142 Quote
fishman393 Posted April 3, 2016 Posted April 3, 2016 1st day with side imaging. Are the two odd shaped things fish behind that rock? Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted April 3, 2016 Super User Posted April 3, 2016 Looks like two fish on the left side of that "wall" and seven others around that log/branch. Quote
fishman393 Posted April 3, 2016 Posted April 3, 2016 Thank you just got home and playing with it recorded my trip and playing it on my pc..Very interesting what is on the bottom. Give me a month and I'll have it down. Lol Quote
fishman393 Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 16 hours ago, fishman393 said: 1st day with side imaging. Are the two odd shaped things fish behind that rock? Can anyone tell me is that a turtle on the mid right?? Quote
boostr Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 On 3/31/2016 at 11:18 AM, Comfortably Numb said: Frog thoe Helix5 pics are really impressive. Similar to this object I found. I also have no idea what it is. Godzirra! 4 Quote
176VLO Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 I noticed this post has been going on awhile and I wanted to say "Thanks and keep it up please" - I started bass fishing seriously when I bought my boat back in August 2015. I put an Elite 5 HDI on the console and a Mark 5 on the front. Your post have helped me with my electronics better than anything else I have tried so far. I am taking a trip to Lake Russell next week for 3 days and looking forward to putting all your info to good use. (or at least trying) I seem to get better results when I take it off Auto and adjust the Down Scan and Sonar myself, but I really don't understand the color line setting as opposed to how it helps. Can any of you talk about these settings for the Elite 5? Thanks again. Quote
therivermonster Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 I took my new Helix 7 out for the first time yesterday which was a blast and an eye opening experience. I have a few questions about some of the images, and if any of the experts out there have any feedback I'd love to hear it. I forgot my SD card at home, so sorry about the cell phone pics. #1 2D Sonar - The thick red line surrounded by the blue haze was for the most part in all of my 2D scans at the 40 foot level. You can see that it starts on this slope at 40 feet. Is this a thermocline maybe? #2 - In this shot, there is a ghosty cloud about mid screen in the side imaging. You can see it above the small logs in the down imaging as well. Any ideas what that might be? Bait fish? #3 - Propwash? Thanks for any suggestions. I'm really looking forward to getting out again soon to build on the knowledge. -Take care Quote
Super User Further North Posted April 22, 2016 Super User Posted April 22, 2016 All taken with my old Humminbird 997C SI Fish cribs and sunken boat - yeah, you can count the seats. Hole in a weedbed Mid-lake gravel bar Quote
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