Loop_Dad Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 Hey Wayne (or anybody else), do you have SI image of fish that you can share with us? I see you have one above where the fish was under water column below you boat, but I was wondering if you have an example of fish on the side. I sometime see these white dots which are brighter than the rest of the image and not sure if they were fish or rock. It is also kinda difficult for me to determine size of rocks or humps when I am looking at SI. Quote
boostr Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 The detail is ridiculous All I need now is a boat and a finder Quote
boostr Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 Humminbird 798ci SI Combo This is where a backhoe dug up a tree stump to create one of the brush piles in a previous post: So this is basically DI and Si at the same time? So where the dark meets the yellow that would be the lake bed horizon so to speak on the left or right. 1 Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Humminbird 798ci SI Combo This is where a backhoe dug up a tree stump to create one of the brush piles in a previous post: So this is basically DI and Si at the same time? So where the dark meets the yellow that would be the lake bed horizon so to speak on the left or right. No that image is only Side Imaging. The junction of the black area and the color area is the lake bottom under the transducer. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Hey Wayne (or anybody else), do you have SI image of fish that you can share with us? I see you have one above where the fish was under water column below you boat, but I was wondering if you have an example of fish on the side. I sometime see these white dots which are brighter than the rest of the image and not sure if they were fish or rock. It is also kinda difficult for me to determine size of rocks or humps when I am looking at SI. Yes I do, I will gather some and post them tomorrow. I have posted some before at some point. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Humminbird 1198ci SI Combo Fish off to the side with Side Imaging Two of the same image with one marked where the bass are on a rocky point. You just need to train you eyes to pick out the fish against the colored bottom. Also you have to set the Sensitivity level so the bottom won't be so bright that the fish blend in. 3 Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Humminbird 1198c SI Combo Side Imaging Two bass checking out a bedding area 2 Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Humminbird 1198c SI Combo Side Imaging/ Down Imaging/2D School of crappie with bass on the bottom. Two mid sized bass are together and two smaller ones nearby. 1 Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Humminbird 1198c SI Combo Side Imaging Large school of shad below and off to the side 1 Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 I can look at this stuff for hours in amazement. As long as Wayne is here to interpret what the hell we're seeing. Technology is freakin awesome. 6 Quote
Super User slonezp Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 I can look at this stuff for hours in amazement. As long as Wayne is here to interpret what the hell we're seeing. Technology is freakin awesome. Only 95% of the time all you see is emptiness. LOL I don't take many screenshots, I'm not running a unit on the bow yet. I can get mesmerized when I'm searching for fish, trying to figure out what I'm looking at. Did you pull the trigger yet? Quote
Super User slonezp Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Wayne, In the pic of the bluegill beds, about 1/2-2/3 way down the SI image is a little distorted. Is that from turning the TM? Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Only 95% of the time all you see is emptiness. LOL I don't take many screenshots, I'm not running a unit on the bow yet. I can get mesmerized when I'm searching for fish, trying to figure out what I'm looking at. Did you pull the trigger yet? No. Keeping my fingers crossed that I can make it work for Spring. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Wayne, In the pic of the bluegill beds, about 1/2-2/3 way down the SI image is a little distorted. Is that from turning the TM? That is correct. Only the rocky point image is with the console unit and transom mounted SI transducer, the rest are TM images. Good catch !!!! You can tell the transducer placement difference since on the trolling motor there is no disturbed water echos near the centerline like you get from water coming off the hull bottom. Note the faint line on the right side of the rocky point image. Quote
Loop_Dad Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 Thanks, Wayne. These are awesome! I remember seeing image like your first fish SI image above (post #33). They are sort of like while line, sometimes very short.Mine were bit more difficult to see as the bottom looked brighter. As you suggested, I'll play with SI sensitivity the next time dim the background out. When you spy fish with SI, do you set a way point and try to get back there using your GPS? I tried several times but I was never sure if I went back to where I intended to go back because I caught no fish doing that. And delay of GPS update made me nuts. Another question regarding how to figure where the fish you see in SI. Using your post #33 image and the fish closest to left upper corner of the screen, the boat appears to be on about 20 ft of water at that time. Your SI range is set up 75ft. And your red circle is a little bit to the left of the half way point between left edge of the screen and where vertical water column ends. So I would figure that point is about 75Ft x 0.6 = about 45ft left of your boat. Does that sound about right? And how do you figure how far back that circle is to your current position? (I have SI scrolling speed set to about the same speed as boat.) Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 12, 2013 Super User Posted December 12, 2013 Thanks, Wayne. These are awesome! I remember seeing image like your first fish SI image above (post #33). They are sort of like while line, sometimes very short.Mine were bit more difficult to see as the bottom looked brighter. As you suggested, I'll play with SI sensitivity the next time dim the background out. When you spy fish with SI, do you set a way point and try to get back there using your GPS? I tried several times but I was never sure if I went back to where I intended to go back because I caught no fish doing that. And delay of GPS update made me nuts. Another question regarding how to figure where the fish you see in SI. Using your post #33 image and the fish closest to left upper corner of the screen, the boat appears to be on about 20 ft of water at that time. Your SI range is set up 75ft. And your red circle is a little bit to the left of the half way point between left edge of the screen and where vertical water column ends. So I would figure that point is about 75Ft x 0.6 = about 45ft left of your boat. Does that sound about right? And how do you figure how far back that circle is to your current position? (I have SI scrolling speed set to about the same speed as boat.) No, I rarely create a waypoint when I see fish. When I see a fish displayed, I immediately look around to get a visual bearing of where I am and then look for them again with SI to fish for them where they are in real time. Some like to throw out a marker bouy, I don't do that unless it is really windy and I am a long way from a close visual reference. What is displayed on the screen is history and fish move. The first picture was on a point so it was very easy to have a sight reference. IF you must do the waypoint deal, use the Casting Ring setting and set that to about 30', then position your boat icon on the circle and cast to the center of the circle. As far as distance, the unit can only read echos from subjects or the bottom. What you see is slant distance displayed not horizontal distance. If you want, you can turn on the SI Range lines to give you a visual reference of the slant distance. To me it just clutters up the display. For your last question, I answered that in the first paragraph. You are using the correct scroll speed setting---good job. You can also use that setting to stretch the images so they appear larger by using a faster scroll speed setting. That will "open up" cover, and stretch fish sizes so you can pick out fish within that cover. It is really beneficial for dock fishing. 1 Quote
vikingbear8 Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 Are photos okay? I dont know how to do a screen shot or if my unit even can (I doubt it can) Lowrance Elite-7 HDI and more gizzard shad than you can shake a stick at Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted December 12, 2013 Super User Posted December 12, 2013 Are photos okay? I dont know how to do a screen shot or if my unit even can (I doubt it can) Lowrance Elite-7 HDI and more gizzard shad than you can shake a stick at Refer to page 44 of your manual for instructions for screen shots. 1 Quote
Super User Hi Salenity Posted March 12, 2014 Super User Posted March 12, 2014 I'm starting to learn how to use my new 898 & 998 but any advise is still welcome. Chart speed 5 Sensitivity 10? Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted March 12, 2014 Super User Posted March 12, 2014 I checked some spawing areas to see how the 360 would do as compared to Side Imaging. Side Imaging view from a couple of years ago. 360 view a couple of days ago: With the 360, I don't have to pass over the area to scan it, I can just hold the boat in place and watch as the 360 does the scanning. Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted March 12, 2014 Super User Posted March 12, 2014 I'm starting to learn how to use my new 898 & 998 but any advise is still welcome. Chart speed 5 Sensitivity 10? Do you know how to turn off the left side readout boxs in the Side Imaging view? That will make the image larger with the same settings. Your Sensitivity is one or two numbers too high for the hard returns. Lots of fish around that bridge. Quote
dougie511 Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 I can look at this stuff for hours in amazement. As long as Wayne is here to interpret what the hell we're seeing. Technology is freakin awesome. Wayne is seriously a genius with fish finder information if you ever have a problem or question ask him!!! hes seriously spent a lot of time helping and explaining things to me! He is the man!!!!!! And very very very helpful!! 1 Quote
Super User Hi Salenity Posted April 5, 2014 Super User Posted April 5, 2014 I had the wife and kids in the boat today or I would have tried to get clearer pics but I think 5 passes over one spot was pushing it Quote
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