Line Diameter:Abrasion resistance

[carlosjr]

I recognize that line diameter plays a big role in abrasion resistance. Having said that, would Berkley XL 20lb (.016) have the same abrasion resistance as XT (.016), but with perhaps better castability due to the properties of the line? Or should XT still be the more abrasion resistant of the two lines?

Just food for thought

[Raul]

Diameter has to do but composition also, XL material is softer than XT.

 

[OkobojiEagle]

I wouldn't say diameter has much to do with abrasion... but diameter does have much to do with line breaking from abrasion.

 

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[papajoe222]

The make-up of the line has more to do with abrasion resistance than the line diameter. In your example, the XT will hold up much better than the XL 15lb. Original Stren is a good go between for manageability and abrasion resistance. Mono will still retain a good portion of its breaking strength when exposed to abrasion. Fluoro,  although touted as more abrasion resistant only because it's breaking strength is under rated and similar to mono, it will retain a good portion of it strength. We're talking abrasion and not nicks or cuts. Fluoro stands above mono and braid when it comes to dealing with them.

[Catt]

13 hours ago, carlosjr said:

I recognize that line diameter plays a big role in abrasion resistance. Having said that, would Berkley XL 20lb (.016) have the same abrasion resistance as XT (.016), but with perhaps better castability due to the properties of the line? Or should XT still be the more abrasion resistant of the two lines?

Just food for thought

 

Big Game is more abrasion resistant than both!

[BobP]

XT is a harder formulation than XL and so is more abrasion resistant.  It also has less stretch and more reel memory.  Good to use in warm weather, maybe switch to XL in fall/winter to get less memory.  Nothing wrong with XL year round if you prefer it.

[WRB]

This may come as shock to you but XL and XT are the same Nylon polymer, the difference is the line dismeter. XT 20 lb is .018D, XT 14 lb is .016D, XL 20 lb is .016 D, XL 14 lb is .014D. If you compare Berkley XL to XT by line diameter you can't tell any difference in hardness or abrasion resistance.

Big Game is a different blend of nylons or copolymer line, also a large diameter like XT with higher abrasion resistance.

Maxima mean green is a very highly abrasion resistance line, but also a high memory hard surface larger diameter line. Harness increases memory as does diameter per lb test.

Sunline Diefer Armilo Nylon line 25 lb is .016D, high abrasion resistance, lower memory, same dia per lb test and higher cost!

Tom

[fissure_man]

22 minutes ago, WRB said:

This may come as shock to you but XL and XT are the same Nylon polymer,

 

Source?

[Todd2]

24 minutes ago, WRB said:

This may come as shock to you but XL and XT are the same Nylon polymer, the difference is the line dismeter. 

 What's your source for this info? Everything I've read, along with my own observations, doesn't mesh with this. I've even seen stretch tests with like diameters that show XL being more stretchy.

 

Note: I didn't see the same question asked above before sending.

[WRB]

29 minutes ago, Todd2 said:

 What's your source for this info? Everything I've read, along with my own observations, doesn't mesh with this. I've even seen stretch tests with like diameters that show XL being more stretchy.

XL stretched more per lb of force because it's diameter. You should compare line by diameter, not the labeled lb test. Whatever test data, look at 20 lb XL vs 14 lb XT, both .016D, the data should be equal.

Tom

PS, Berkley's 1st mono line was Blue Lake as I recall, then came out with both Trilene XL for spinning reels and XT for baitcasting reels in the 6O's, this line has been around a long time! Big Game came out around the early 80's, originally for off shore use and 12 lb was the lightest lb test offered until the 90's adding 10 lb and It's been around over 30 years now. All of Berkley's mono are premium line with very consistant diameters and good products!

[OkobojiEagle]

3 hours ago, WRB said:

Trilene XL for spinning reels and XT for baitcasting reels in the 6O's, this line has been around a long time!

 

... with many formula changes (improvements) over those years.

 

oe

[carlosjr]

3 hours ago, WRB said:

XL stretched more per lb of force because it's diameter. You should compare line by diameter, not the labeled lb test. Whatever test data, look at 20 lb XL vs 14 lb XT, both .016D, the data should be equal.

Tom

PS, Berkley's 1st mono line was Blue Lake as I recall, then came out with both Trilene XL for spinning reels and XT for baitcasting reels in the 6O's, this line has been around a long time! Big Game came out around the early 80's, originally for off shore use and 12 lb was the lightest lb test offered until the 90's adding 10 lb and It's been around over 30 years now. All of Berkley's mono are premium line with very consistant diameters and good products!

This is really interesting info. I like berkley's lines, and if this is true, I may just start running 20lb XL on my reels

[MassYak85]

The only thing that line diameter has a factor in is it allows more abrasion before breaking simply because there is more material to get through. It's not that it's more resistant to be abraded. 

[Catt]

1958: Trilene

1971: Trilene XL 

1977: Trilene XT

1985: Trilene Big Game

 

http://bassfishingarchives.com/short-strikes/how-old-is-your-line

 

http://www.berkley-fishing.com/Berkley-history.html