10% of anglers catch 90% of fish- still true?

[Raul]

23 hours ago, deep said:

especially with the information (knowledge?) at our fingertips, the electronics available... and the midwest finesse rig?

 

Knowlege is not practice.

 

15 hours ago, david in va said:

The other 90% buy 99% 0f the tackle

 

Good one ! 

 

[scaleface]

What the heck is the midwest finesse rig ?   

[soflabasser]

All the knowledge in the world won't help much if your not willing to put in the time and use it.

[WRB]

Ignorance is bliss!

Tom

[Bluebasser86]

1 hour ago, scaleface said:

What the heck is the midwest finesse rig ?   

It's the actual presentation and thought process that most just refer to as the Ned rig. 

[Scott F]

On 8/8/2017 at 11:12 PM, deep said:

especially with the information (knowledge?) at our fingertips, the electronics available... and the midwest finesse rig?

 

Does the exact percentage matter? The point of the phrase is that most fish are caught by those few who make the effort to learn how fish behave and how to properly use the tools at their disposal. Electronics don't catch fish. You must understand what the information on the screen means and then use that information correctly. All the knowledge in the world is no guarantee of success. I can tell people exactly where to cast a lure and exactly which lure to use and most still can't catch the fish that are there. 

[geo g]

I think those numbers are greatly exaggerated.  But in the mind of those 10% its probably right on.  There is no shortage of over confident fishing experts.  They should all be on the tour, with there own show, and millions in their pockets. In my opinion, reality is far from 10% of the fishing population.

[deep]

7 hours ago, scaleface said:

What the heck is the midwest finesse rig ?   

 

The philosophy and techniques designed to catch 100 bass in 4 hours (under optimum conditions?). The ned rig is the most popular example.

[NHBull]

23 minutes ago, deep said:

 

The philosophy and techniques designed to catch 100 bass in 4 hours (under optimum conditions?). The ned rig is the most popular example.

True statement, but I don't have the patience, given it usually yield smaller fish.  I have never met nor talked to anyone on my lake who does.....with the exception of my wife when she is not throwing a wacky rig

[slonezp]

What percentage of fishermen are regular readers of internet fishing forums. I'm willing to bet more fishermen would rather surf "adult" sites than fishing specific sites. Speaking of which. Whatever happened to Uncle Bucks Bassmate calendars? 

[toni63]

10% of anglers think they catch more than the other 90%. lol And the 90% don't care what that 10% think.

 

And if you really get down to it, that 10% who catch more than the other 90% also spend way more time fishing. I like fishing, but I wouldn't do it all day, 5 days a week. And I think that all day, 5 days a week fisherman who catches more is the 10% guy. It just stands to reason that come tournament time, the guy who has all the time in the world to fish the lakes where the tournaments are is going to know the patterns better, have better locations marked and more knowledge come tournament day than probably 90% of the other anglers there.

 

It aint rocket science, it's just a lot of time invested that gives them that edge on tournament day. So sure, it looks like a handful do that little bit better than most, but how many days do they fish that lake compared to the rest? I don't buy that 10% are just better fisherman, I think it's 10% are way more dedicated and devoted and have time available to devote to it that means they catch consistently more in hard conditions.

 

It's like someone once said, the best baseball pitcher the world has ever seen is driving a garbage truck in Des Moines. He just never had the circumstances in his life to be able to develop his talent.

[scaleface]

I dont know how accurate the 90 to 10 ratio is but there is a certain percentage who dont catch much at all . Fishing is just not their thing and they are just out relaxing for a day . I saw three two hundred lb plus men in a 14 foot jon boat yesterday having a good old time  , bobbers out in the middle of the lake , making all kinds of noise . I doubt very much if they caught anything more than a few little sunfish .

[UPSmallie]

I'd say accurate.  When bank fishing pretty much anywhere, I rarely see anyone not bait-fishing.  Artificials fan-casted over water outproduce their live bait at least 8-1.

[fissure_man]

38 minutes ago, UPSmallie said:

I'd say accurate.  When bank fishing pretty much anywhere, I rarely see anyone not bait-fishing.  Artificials fan-casted over water outproduce their live bait at least 8-1.

 

Using your numbers, say there are 9 bait anglers and 1 fishing artificials… Artificial guy catches 8, bait anglers (collectively) catch 9.

 

10% of anglers caught 47% of the fish

 

The artificial guy would’ve had to catch another 73 fish to bring his catch up to 90% of the total that day.

 

[Choporoz]

I'm alternatively entertained and maddened....it's like watching the evening news....lots of folks arguing meaningless 'statistical estimates'....with no data and no sense of affecting variables

[WRB]

The 90-10 ratio is a metaphor. I don't recall where I first read that 10% of the anglers catch 90% of the fish, may have been Jason Lucas, but it doesn't mater.

We tend put all fisherman into 1 category, bass anglers. Bass anglers make a small % of the recreational fisherman. I don't know if it's 10% overall, I am sure someone will correct it, the point is not everyone on the water is a knowledgeable and skilled bass angler and at least 1/2 of the recreational anglers could care less about specially catching bass. Unless it's a bass tournament most anglers rarely catch any bass, among the skilled anglers the top 10% catch the majority of the fish they are seeking. 

If you watch or participate in bass tournaments the top 10 always catch more bass then the rest of the field on that particular event.

Midwest finesse tactics have no impact of my bass fishing success, there are several equally very effective finesse presentations to rely on if catching numbers of bass is the goal.

Tom

[UPSmallie]

3 hours ago, fissure_man said:

 

Using your numbers, say there are 9 bait anglers and 1 fishing artificials… Artificial guy catches 8, bait anglers (collectively) catch 9.

 

10% of anglers caught 47% of the fish

 

The artificial guy would’ve had to catch another 73 fish to bring his catch up to 90% of the total that day.

 

 

Alright alright you got me there, but what if I told you the fish the bait fishermen were catching were non-gamefish species such as catfish and drum, while the one fishing artificials catches the pike and smallmouth?  All still fish, but it'd be a matter of preference.  I see your point though.  Bait-fishermen do have their day from time to time.

[WIGuide]

Personally, I think it's pretty accurate. Those people who are really hardcore into fishing tend to associate with others that are as well, so when we think of others who fish is skewed because our perception is based mostly on them. We tend to forget about the thousands and thousands of anglers who aren't hardcore, nor do they care to be. 

[sully420]

100% of the time good Anglers are thinking about fishing. Do your find yourself on any random day looking at the weather conditions and thinking how would I approach this day of fishing. On a cloudy windy day do you think I could really get them on a spinner bait today. On a sunny day do you ever think wow I wonder what lake has the best mats to punch.

[earthworm77]

On 8/9/2017 at 1:03 AM, WRB said:

90% of the bass are located in 10% of the water may still be true.

What us the % of skilled bass anglers verses all anglers who fish? 10% is still a good rule of thumb!

Tom

The problem is that most guys who fish THINK they are one of the skilled guys and usually they aren't. It is an ego thing.

[scaleface]

42 minutes ago, earthworm77 said:

The problem is that most guys who fish THINK they are one of the skilled guys and usually they aren't. It is an ego thing.

 

I'm in the top 90 per cent .

[david in va]

 Well I will say 10% of the BASS fishermen catch 90% of the Bass, and 90% of the Bass fishermen buy 99% of the tackle. That should remove all doubt  

[Jeff H]

What's this all about anyway?   Seems rather trivial. 

2 hours ago, earthworm77 said:

The problem is that most guys who fish THINK they are one of the skilled guys and usually they aren't. It is an ego thing.

Hell, not me.  I'm worthless with a fishing rod but I enjoy it anyway.

[jr231]

I don't think that "thinking you're skilled" is a "problem" anyway lol. 

 

 

 

[earthworm77]

1 hour ago, Yeajray231 said:

I don't think that "thinking you're skilled" is a "problem" anyway lol. 

 

 

 

It certainly would skew the 10% thing.