Wingman87 Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 For all you guys that own a curado 70 what would you say is the minimum lure weight it could throw. I keep a weightless senko tied up at all times and its one of my favorite baits to throw. The reel I use for my weightless setup right now is capable but I'm looking for something different and a little better for lighter baits. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted August 8, 2017 Super User Posted August 8, 2017 The lightest I have easily went so far is a 1/20 oz jighead with 2.75" TRD ned rig toal weight of around .1969oz. A 5" senko weighs around .364oz. 2 Quote
Wingman87 Posted August 8, 2017 Author Posted August 8, 2017 1 hour ago, QUAKEnSHAKE said: The lightest I have easily went so far is a 1/20 oz jighead with 2.75" TRD ned rig toal weight of around .1969oz. A 5" senko weighs around .364oz. Thanks for the input, I've got it narrowed down to the curado 70 and tha tatula sv. Quote
Super User JustJames Posted August 8, 2017 Super User Posted August 8, 2017 I don't like curado 70 for light weight stuff. The lightest would be 1/15 jig head plus TRD. I find that with that light weight on curado I always get some over run. If I do bomb cast I don't really have problem only when pitch or short cast. It might be that my rod 1/8-3/8 lure weight is still too stiff. For light weight I always turn to daiwa sv105. I can cast weightless 4-5" roboworm with this reel no problem. It is not just the reel also rod is important for light weight stuff, I just got myself some Light BFS and ML 1/8-1/4oz lure weight. Quote
Super User NHBull Posted August 8, 2017 Super User Posted August 8, 2017 My buddy usually uses it for flipping and pitching based on its size, but I was throwing 4 inch senkos a country mile when paired with a M/XF GLX. Think the rod has more to do with it. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted August 8, 2017 Super User Posted August 8, 2017 From what I have read, a 5" Senko weighs about 3/8 oz. or slightly more. One guy weighed his at .4 oz. You should have absolutely no problem throwing that weight with any baitcast reel made today. 2 Quote
Scrapiron Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 With a 70XG, I can cast an weighted hook with a small tube- total about 1/8 oz. around 30-34 yards (measured by my son in the yard). Rod is an E6x Inshore M/Mod Fast. Not totally bombing it, was looking for consistency with good, natural form (and no backlashes). Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted August 8, 2017 Super User Posted August 8, 2017 6 hours ago, Wingman87 said: Thanks for the input, I've got it narrowed down to the curado 70 and tha tatula sv. Have you seen this video skip to 15:33 to 20:00 for results of test and comments about the control each reel had with the weight. 2 Quote
Wingman87 Posted August 8, 2017 Author Posted August 8, 2017 14 minutes ago, QUAKEnSHAKE said: Have you seen this video skip to 15:33 to 20:00 for results of test and comments about the control each reel had with the weight. Awesome, don't know how I missed this video 1 Quote
Super User deep Posted August 8, 2017 Super User Posted August 8, 2017 All my Curados (G, I, 71- and I have seven Curados including three 71s) can cast baits down to 3/16 oz (true weight) just fine, paired with the right rod. I don't have a need to fish baits smaller than that. I think you'll be fine with most 200 size or smaller reels. P.S. Low (almost enough to remove side to side play) spool tension and 50% or higher (depending on how aerodynamic the bait is) braking. Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted August 8, 2017 Super User Posted August 8, 2017 Watch the video again and you will see the guy incorrectly setup the Tatule SV. It is an easy mistake since they need to be setup very differently than other reels. The factory says to adjust the spool tension until the spool has a bit of sde play. If you do that the lure will seem to drop way too fast but that is how they are properly set. The movement of the inductor in and out of the magnetic field will compensate and avoid the backlash while allowing maximum distance. Quote
waymont Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 On 8/8/2017 at 12:21 PM, fishnkamp said: Watch the video again and you will see the guy incorrectly setup the Tatule SV. It is an easy mistake since they need to be setup very differently than other reels. The factory says to adjust the spool tension until the spool has a bit of sde play. If you do that the lure will seem to drop way too fast but that is how they are properly set. The movement of the inductor in and out of the magnetic field will compensate and avoid the backlash while allowing maximum distance. That's because this reel test guy doesn't always give Daiwa reels a fair shot. He's also kind of annoying on top of that. 1 Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted March 10, 2020 Super User Posted March 10, 2020 3/16 head with a TRD is as light as I can go. Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted March 10, 2020 Super User Posted March 10, 2020 I have Tatula SV, Curado 70, Alpha SV and Steez SV - I throw light Neds on the Alpha SV - that and the Steez are the two reels I would recommend as best for throwing the ultra light lures in that group of 4. Quote
Corey T Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 Just curious but are you throwing Texas hooked or wacky? In my experiences one or the other can completely change the conversation about what rod and reel you might consider using. I hear people saying they are bomb casting wacky rigs and I just can't wrap my brain around that. I'm probably just doing something wrong. ? Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted March 11, 2020 Super User Posted March 11, 2020 I have a 70HG with either 8 lb Trilene XL or (now) 8 lb. YZH. I can cast Mini Fat Raps and Rebel Super Teeny Wee-r lures OK, but I never measured the distance. As lures in general get lighter and lighter, I worry more and more about accuracy and consistency rather than distance. Small profile forage, like the small profile lures, are found in the margins. So I get the distance I need. I need to add, however, that I use a Daiwa Spinmatic-D casting rod for fishing that light. Model is SMD 702ULFB. jj Quote
scbassin Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 The rod you use has a whole lot to do with the weight of the bait you are trying to cast. Using a Dobyns Extreme DX 734C with a Shimano Scorpion 71 XG spooled with 12lb Gamma copoly fishing a weightless Senko I get 35 plus yards. I get about the same with a 3/16 oz weight fishing a Big Bite Craw worm Quote
JediAmoeba Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 On 3/10/2020 at 11:35 AM, waymont said: That's because this reel test guy doesn't always give Daiwa reels a fair shot. He's also kind of annoying on top of that. The reel test guy is a total Shimano fan boy through and through - which is fine BTW. My beef is, he doesn't know how to properly cast a reel and bases all of his decisions entirely on how far a reel can cast by his standards in an open field. Also, he doesnt know how to properly tear down a reel and obviously has no engineering background. Plus, he is very annoying. 1 Quote
waymont Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, JediAmoeba said: he is very annoying This is a common opinion. Quote
Ogandrews Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 I use my 70 for stream trout fishing in the winter, cast 1/16th oz jigs with 2.5 power tubes, little husky jerks, little spinners with no issue Quote
waymont Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 13 hours ago, Ogandrews said: I use my 70 for stream trout fishing in the winter, cast 1/16th oz jigs with 2.5 power tubes, little husky jerks, little spinners with no issue Cool application. What type and size line do you use? What rod? Quote
Ogandrews Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, waymont said: Cool application. What type and size line do you use? What rod? I use a 6’8” medium xf st croix mojo bass with 20lbs PowerPro maxcuatro to a 6-8lbs floro leader. Braid can be a pain in the winter if it’s really cold because it will freeze up but I usually don’t have a big issue. If it is super cold like 0-10 them I’ll just tie a 20-30ft leader and I don’t have as much of an issue. 1 Quote
BlakeMolone Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 Like someone else said if it's a Texas rigged 5 inch senko most reels should throw it well. Hell I throw senkos on a long mh rod with 40lb braid and it casts fine. I'm using a Shimano slx on that setup Quote
Pogues2300 Posted March 13, 2020 Posted March 13, 2020 I didn't watch the linked video but if that's the reeltest guy he is extremely biased towards shimano. I own and love both Daiwa and Shimano reels, just wanted to give my opinion if that was who made the comparison video. I bought a tatula sv last year for light lures and really like it for that price point. Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted March 13, 2020 Super User Posted March 13, 2020 My Curado 70 doesn't seem to like real light baits. It functions ok with a 3/16 oz tungsten weight and a 5" BPX Stick or similar size bait. I tried 10 lb fluorocarbon on it, but it seems to like 15 lb Abrazx better. My Curado is " touchy" in general and any time I try to muscle it to get extra distance, it responds by saying "I don't like that" and it back lashes. These days, if the target is more than 50 feet away, I don't even try it, I'll move the boat closer or pick up a different rig. I'm pretty sure that if I spent alot more time with the 70, I'd learn its whims but all the other reels in the pitching/soft plastic arsenal are 50 size Chronarchs or Curados. I like the set it & forget it aspect of these reels, so I just tell myself to pay attention when the 70 is in my hands. Quote
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