Super User FryDog62 Posted August 4, 2017 Super User Posted August 4, 2017 Will a 7 foot Medium Heavy/Fast work (rated up to 1 oz lure weight) or do I need to go to a Heavy power rod to throw a Whopper Plopper 130? Quote
IndianaFinesse Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 That should work fine, I throw mine on a rod with identical ratings. 1 Quote
Super User JustJames Posted August 4, 2017 Super User Posted August 4, 2017 It is depend on how it load up on your rod. I have 2 MH/F rod one is Daiwa tatula and the another is Fenwick ateos. i can cast 130 on Ateos no problem but not on Daiwa. Daiwa has pretty soft tip and 1 oz is pretty dead on limit lure weight. I use that rod with 110 no problem. On the other hand Ateos 7'2 can go beyond their rating I can cast savage gear 3D blue grill(almost 2 oz) with this rod no problem. Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted August 4, 2017 Author Super User Posted August 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, JustJames said: It is depend on how it load up on your rod. I have 2 MH/F rod one is Daiwa tatula and the another is Fenwick ateos. i can cast 130 on Ateos no problem but not on Daiwa. Daiwa has pretty soft tip and 1 oz is pretty dead on limit lure weight. I use that rod with 110 no problem. On the other hand Ateos 7'2 can go beyond their rating I can cast savage gear 3D blue grill(almost 2 oz) with this rod no problem. Interesting, the rod I was thinking of using is a 7'-0" Tatula XT/Fast rated to 1 oz Quote
GrumpyOlPhartte Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 On its website, River2Sea states the Whopper Plopper 130 weighs one and three eighths ounce. That appears to exceed the recommended lure weights for some of the rods mentioned in the previous comments. I'm just bringing this up because I really don't know if it's a good idea to exceed the recommended lure weight for a rod. But I have found that a 7' 3" heavy/fast rod (recommended for lures weighing up to two ounces) works really well for me. Just throwing this out there for your consideration. 1 Quote
Super User JustJames Posted August 4, 2017 Super User Posted August 4, 2017 2 hours ago, FryDog62 said: Interesting, the rod I was thinking of using is a 7'-0" Tatula XT/Fast rated to 1 oz You can try but if it is over load then don't. Try light underhand cast not over head bomb cast otherwise you would put too much stress on your rod. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted August 4, 2017 Global Moderator Posted August 4, 2017 I've thrown them on a MH and a H. The heavy does a better job, but the MH does alright. Just use a lob cast and you'll be fine. Quote
Super User Sam Posted August 4, 2017 Super User Posted August 4, 2017 6 hours ago, FryDog62 said: Will a 7 foot Medium Heavy/Fast work (rated up to 1 oz lure weight) or do I need to go to a Heavy power rod to throw a Whopper Plopper 130? No problem. As you know, make sure your line test and the bait's weight are within the rod's parameters. I use the same set up (7-foot medium heavy) for my Whooper Ploppers. No problems. Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted August 4, 2017 Author Super User Posted August 4, 2017 4 hours ago, Sam said: No problem. As you know, make sure your line test and the bait's weight are within the rod's parameters. I use the same set up (7-foot medium heavy) for my Whooper Ploppers. No problems. I think that's the issue - the 130 weighs one and 3/8 oz and most MH rods are rated to 1 ounce. Quote
RichF Posted August 4, 2017 Posted August 4, 2017 I throw it on a 7' Heavy glass rod rated to 1oz. 1 Quote
Robert Riley Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 I use a heavy, but a MH is probably fine, might differ rod to rod though. 1 Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted August 5, 2017 Super User Posted August 5, 2017 I currently throw mine on a 7'2"MH/F Tatula. It's not ideal, but gets the job done. I used to use my 7'2" HF Tatula, but lost too many fish just because the rod couldn't absorb headshakes well as the fish got near the boat. I do think it's pushing the MHF rod's upper limit. I always underhand lob it on that rod. Ideally if I could get a dedicated rod for that class of topwaters I'd get like a 7'4 or 7'6 MH Moderate, almost like a deep cranking rod or something. 3 Quote
CTBassin860 Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 11 hours ago, MassYak85 said: I currently throw mine on a 7'2"MH/F Tatula. It's not ideal, but gets the job done. I used to use my 7'2" HF Tatula, but lost too many fish just because the rod couldn't absorb headshakes well as the fish got near the boat. I do think it's pushing the MHF rod's upper limit. I always underhand lob it on that rod. Ideally if I could get a dedicated rod for that class of topwaters I'd get like a 7'4 or 7'6 MH Moderate, almost like a deep cranking rod or something. How do you like the 7'2" MHF ?? The HF has quickly turned into my favorite rod. Was seriously considering upgrading my 7'1" Mojo to the MHF Tatula. Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted August 5, 2017 Super User Posted August 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, MassBassin508 said: How do you like the 7'2" MHF ?? The HF has quickly turned into my favorite rod. Was seriously considering upgrading my 7'1" Mojo to the MHF Tatula. I'd say it depends what you want to use it for. I've been using mine for spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, heavier cranks and some smaller t-rigs and heavier topwaters. They say it's rated as a "Regular" action. Now the HF is what I would consider a true Fast action. I absolutely love that rod and it's also my favorite. The regular is more like a mod-fast. With certain rod companies it might even be a fast though. My issue is I don't have a cranking rod right now, but I don't want to lose the versatility of the MH, so it doesn't make sense for me to switch it out, even though I would prefer a little more flex for treble hook baits I think but it does work fine for heavier cranks. In short it's what you would probably want out of a MH, versatile. 1 Quote
CTBassin860 Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 1 minute ago, MassYak85 said: I'd say it depends what you want to use it for. I've been using mine for spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, heavier cranks and some smaller t-rigs and heavier topwaters. They say it's rated as a "Regular" action. Now the HF is what I would consider a true Fast action. I absolutely love that rod and it's also my favorite. The regular is more like a mod-fast. With certain rod companies it might even be a fast though. My issue is I don't have a cranking rod right now, but I don't want to lose the versatility of the MH, so it doesn't make sense for me to switch it out, even though I would prefer a little more flex for treble hook baits I think but it does work fine for heavier cranks. In short it's what you would probably want out of a MH, versatile. I would use it for 3/8-1/2 oz swim jig and trailer and 1/2 oz wake rats. The Mojo handles these applications well. So i'd hate to swap it out if the Tatula just doesn't cover the applications well enough. Like i said,the HF is one bad mother of a rod and I cant say enough good things about it. Was hoping the MHF was just as good. @FryDog62 I would throw it on a HF just to get off the upper threshold of the rod rating and my own peace of mind. Some rods can handle it, some can not. 1 Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted August 5, 2017 Super User Posted August 5, 2017 Just now, MassBassin508 said: I would use it for 3/8-1/2 oz swim jig and trailer and 1/2 oz wake rats. The Mojo handles these applications well. So i'd hate to swap it out if the Tatula just doesn't cover the applications well enough. Like i said,the HF is one bad mother of a rod and I cant say enough good things about it. Was hoping the MHF was just as good. Swim jigs it does great, I forgot to say I also use it for those, I prefer them on that rod over the HF unless it's a really heavy duty swimjig. I also fish my spro rat on it but I don't know what the flex of the mojo is like. All I know is I was fishing the 40 size spro rat and the 130 whopper plopper on my HF rod for a while. I lost two PB smallies because they jumped within like 10 feet of the boat and had no issue unloading the rod with a single headshake and throwing it. So from then on I have used the MH because it does have more flex. I can't say for sure it's the ideal rod for topwaters because I don't have much experience with more moderate rods but it does work fine for me with them. 1 Quote
Dtrombly Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 Only rod i have that I can somewhat comfortably throw it on is a flipping stick. 7'6" H/F. If I had a swimbait rod id probably be using that 1 Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted August 5, 2017 Author Super User Posted August 5, 2017 I strung the 130 up on my frog rod - Daiwa Tatula XT 7'-4" Heavy XF and it worked great. To everyone's points above - it casts a mile and the hooks are DAM sharp. Only had to poke myself once to find that out -- So looks like I'll have to re-tie when I decide to use a frog or whopper plopper on this rod. Or, get lazy and blasphemously use a snap swivel Quote
bholtzinger14 Posted August 5, 2017 Posted August 5, 2017 I have the 7'1" mhr and 7'2" mhr (and 2 more Tatulas) and those are awesome rods for the 110 size. I would not want to throw the 130 on them though. Quote
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