Tmoyer10 Posted July 29, 2017 Posted July 29, 2017 I fish a lot of low/clear water small mouth bass on rivers. I have been messing with different topwater lures and have had better luck with subtle presentations. I was wondering if there was suggestions for kinda of soft/hard plastic top water walk the dog type lures that didn't rattle and were subtle for high pressured bass? Quote
fishindad Posted July 29, 2017 Posted July 29, 2017 Fluke-type bait rigged EWG weedless is great in smaller streams and rivers. Basically, it works any time you're fishing smallies in current! 2 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 29, 2017 Super User Posted July 29, 2017 Hello and Welcome to Bass Resource ~ Checkout the Sebile Stick Shadd and the Rapala X-Rap Sub Walk ~ Both subtle & effective and may suit your needs. A-Jay 3 Quote
38 Super Fan Posted July 30, 2017 Posted July 30, 2017 Clear Zara Spook, super subtle. Also, welcome to the forum! Quote
BuzzHudson19c Posted July 30, 2017 Posted July 30, 2017 River smallies? BUZZ BAIT! Walking style, Kvd sexy dawg. In my opinion if smallies are hitting top water, don't worry about being subtle. Quote
Tmoyer10 Posted July 30, 2017 Author Posted July 30, 2017 I'm not totally against rattles. It just seems as of late because of all the pressure and how clear low and clear the river is. Less noise is working better. I tried the savage soft plastic mud minnow and I do like that. I was just curious if anyone made a hard plastic walk the dog that didn't rattle. I generally use lucky craft gunfish and they work well but like I said seems like lately you need something with less noise. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted July 30, 2017 Global Moderator Posted July 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Tmoyer10 said: I fish a lot of low/clear water small mouth bass on rivers. I have been messing with different topwater lures and have had better luck with subtle presentations. I was wondering if there was suggestions for kinda of soft/hard plastic top water walk the dog type lures that didn't rattle and were subtle for high pressured bass? Drill a small hole in the back of a Super Spook Jr, add drop or two of superglue in the hole and roll the ball around so it gets in the super glue. Add a thin coat of epoxy to the hole and you should have a silent spook. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 30, 2017 Super User Posted July 30, 2017 Forgot to mention - for what you've described, it's tough to beat the Original Rapala Floater Minnow ~ Been catching fish for a Long time. Balsa rules. A-Jay 7 Quote
Tmoyer10 Posted July 30, 2017 Author Posted July 30, 2017 I will give that a try. I would like to be able to go out with loud topwater and just nail them every day but lately it seems like they want it in more of a quiet approach. Quote
Super User Gundog Posted July 30, 2017 Super User Posted July 30, 2017 3 hours ago, fishindad said: Fluke-type bait rigged EWG weedless is great in smaller streams and rivers. Basically, it works any time you're fishing smallies in current! ^^^Took the words right out of my keyboard. The erratic action definitely draws smallies. 1 Quote
papajoe222 Posted July 30, 2017 Posted July 30, 2017 Like A-Jay said, an original floating Rapala, I like the #7 for river smallies, in gold/black back twitched down a seam equals smallie on the hook most anytime. 3 Quote
Frenchman83 Posted July 30, 2017 Posted July 30, 2017 14 hours ago, fishindad said: Fluke-type bait rigged EWG weedless is great in smaller streams and rivers. Basically, it works any time you're fishing smallies in current! Try nose hooking as well. Nice thing about a fluke is you can run it on the surface or subsurface pretty easy Quote
fishindad Posted July 30, 2017 Posted July 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Frenchman83 said: Try nose hooking as well. Nice thing about a fluke is you can run it on the surface or subsurface pretty easy Agreed! Most all the rivers and streams where I live have grass both emergent and submergent, which is where the bass hang out. I try to use poppers, props and walkers but it gets too frustrating clearing weeds every other cast. Open water the walking bait is sure fun though. Quote
Turkey sandwich Posted July 30, 2017 Posted July 30, 2017 If I want something a little more subtle than the bigger, noisier topwater stuff, I usually switch up to a Skitterpop or X Pop. The Skitterpop is awesomely versatile in that you can pop it a bunch of different ways, and it walks reasonably well. Conditions dictate everything, but poppers are really under-used these days and they flat out catch fish when bigger, louder presentations are just a little too much. Quote
Neil McCauley Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 When I want subtle topwater I use my fly rod and a little panfish popper. You'd be surprised how hard they'll hit this but ignore regular topwater hardbaits. Also a ton of fun landing them. 2 Quote
Wee Hooker Posted August 2, 2017 Posted August 2, 2017 Excuse for jumping right in with my first post here, but I'd vote with Short Fish. A topwater bug can be delivered via fly rod with minimal disturbance and can be fished at any pace you like (including dead drifting.). Even their smaller size/profile can play in here. In particular , I would vote for foam terrestrials and mice patterns but any number of top water bugs in the size 2-6 range can be effective. Try it and you might get hooked yourself. Dave 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted August 2, 2017 Super User Posted August 2, 2017 Luck Craft made a 100 size solid wood Sammy that was perfect for smallies. Quote
Turkey sandwich Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 In addition to the immediate surface stuff, since we've gone fly tackle, a Deceiver or Clouser Minnow stripped just under the surface can be absolutely thrilling. They don't quite cast a mile like a Zara Spook, but once you get the hang of them, man, they're hard to beat. 2 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted August 3, 2017 Super User Posted August 3, 2017 I use to catch quite a few on a five inch grub fished as a top water . I used a worm hook and 1/8 ounce weight . I t-rigged them with the hook ran all the way through ,exposed much of the time .Its subtle and the strikes were viscous . Quote
moguy1973 Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 Horny Toad with a 4/0 1/16oz weighted swimbait hook with screwloc keeper. Smallies love those. Very subtle buzz action Quote
Nicholas Frederick Posted September 6, 2017 Posted September 6, 2017 Whopper plopper 90 or 110 caught many its my go to top water smallie lure. Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted September 6, 2017 Super User Posted September 6, 2017 Myself and a few fishermen I know always carry a few #7 original Rapalas in their boxes for just such a situation. Hard to beat that old lure! I also would try nose hooking a 4 fluke-type plastic (Zoom makes a good one). That kinda subtle, sub-surface, erratic action will sometimes out do the Rapala. Good Luck! 1 Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted September 6, 2017 Super User Posted September 6, 2017 I will echo from above the fluke (I prefer a white Caffeine Shad and Owner screwlock hooks for smallies), also Subwalk and Skitterprop. The Lindners have done several shows on river fishing for smallmouth with a variety of top waters but frequently tout the Skitterprop. More subtle than a buzzbait but very effective (I get better hook up % with this lure than other topwaters). Wired two fish has a video circulating with Kyle Peterson throwing the Whopper Plopper for river smallies too -- not so subtle but the 110 comes without rattles. Quote
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