Sword of the Lord Posted July 29, 2017 Posted July 29, 2017 First, a little bit of background information and a small, albeit possibly embarrassing question prior to my actual question. I've picked up bass fishing again this summer after a hiatus. From 2012-14 I was really into it. I did well, but I was still a novice. I stopped for a few years due to personal reasons. I was using Eagle Claw Razor Sharp offset worm hooks back then, but have switched to Gammie EWG hooks. I don't like EWG hooks for thinner plastics, such as the Berkeley Power Worm; so I picked up some normal offset Gammie worm hooks. On the package it ends with 'RB'. What does that mean? The Eagle Claws never said that. I find that the worms do not sit as nicely on these hooks as they do the Eagle Claws. I'm wondering if the 'RB' means something and it's not the same as a normal offset worm hook? On to the main question. I'm wacky rigging Senkos a lot and having a ton of success and a great time. I've tried several variations of hooks, but nothing has made the bait look as good or have such a high percentage of hookups as the Gammie octopus hooks. However, I think they work too well, or perhaps I'm not unhooking them properly. I am strictly catch and release. I really care about the bass I catch. But these hooks are brutal to try to remove due to the tip of the hook being bent inwards. If it's just too tough, I slide the hook out backwards and cut the line. It gets the hook out well enough but the eye leaves a hole in the fish. I'm no snowflake PETA guy by any means, but I love these fish and want it to be as smooth and undamaged of an unhooking as possible. Any tips? 1 Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted July 29, 2017 Super User Posted July 29, 2017 RB stands for round bend - as opposed to several other types of bends in hooks offered by various hook manufacturers, like wide gap or sproat or O'Shaunessey to name a few. As for your wacky rig hook issues, I got nothing, other than if you don't like the hook you're using for whatever reason, try a different hook. I like Falcon K-Wacky weedless weighted hooks for wacky rigging myself, but there are many quality brands of hooks out there. Quote
Super User WRB Posted July 29, 2017 Super User Posted July 29, 2017 You can go with a light wire circle hook that prevents gut hooking and ends up at the side corner of the mouth. If you use a needle nose plier just push the hook shank down away from the barb and the hook slides out easily. You could also try Owner weedless wacky hook #5172 that is very strong, sharpe with a wider gap than either the mosquito hook or Gamakatsu octopus hooks. Tom 1 Quote
Oklahoma Mike Posted July 29, 2017 Posted July 29, 2017 I use the owner hooks that Tom mentioned above in both regular and weedless versions with good hookup ratio. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted July 30, 2017 Global Moderator Posted July 30, 2017 9 hours ago, MNGeorge said: Crush the barb down... This is what I do. There's almost zero leverage for a fish to throw a wacky rig, so crushing the barb has nearly zero effect on numbers of landed fish and it's most likely a wash, since a hook with no barb penetrates more easily. 1 Quote
MichaelCopeland Posted July 30, 2017 Posted July 30, 2017 I've heard you could use the same octopus hooks you have and bend the hook point out away from the shank slightly to increase the gap. It would save you money from having to buy different hooks. Quote
sully420 Posted July 30, 2017 Posted July 30, 2017 Dude you are doing it right as long as you're not gut hooking them those fish will be fine Quote
Super User NHBull Posted July 30, 2017 Super User Posted July 30, 2017 As usual, Tom is spot on. Circle hooks make life easier for me as does owner wacky hooks My wife insists on crushing the barb for her rigs Quote
Sword of the Lord Posted July 30, 2017 Author Posted July 30, 2017 It's not the barb. It's the inward hook point. Thanks guys. Quote
moguy1973 Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 I just started using Berkley Fusion 19 wacky hooks with a weed guard and I'm a extremely impressed with how well they have worked for me. The fluorocarbon weed guard is very effective in keeping it from snagging on things too. All the fish I've hooked have been hooked in the side of the mouth 1 Quote
Falkus Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 I have been using Owner Weedless Wacky Hooks 2/0 for tournaments which is bigger than the Trokar hooks. I just wish that they would make it 3/0. Quote
kylek Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 9 hours ago, moguy1973 said: I just started using Berkley Fusion 19 wacky hooks with a weed guard and I'm a extremely impressed with how well they have worked for me. The fluorocarbon weed guard is very effective in keeping it from snagging on things too. All the fish I've hooked have been hooked in the side of the mouth These are what I have been using for myself and for my kids. We have had zero issues with them and I do like the fluorocarbon weed guard. Quote
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