Super User Boomstick Posted July 23, 2017 Super User Posted July 23, 2017 While pulling out a bird's nest, the wind picked up out of nowhere, caused my line to knot in several places and let to me cutting my line off. Since it happened as I was about to go home anyway as it was getting late, I didn't bother respooling with something I had yet. My question is would 50# braid be overkill on a MH rod? I was using 30# braid, which is more appropriate for a MH rod imo, but I don't have enough left but I have enough 50# from a catfish rod to throw on there. Largely, I would think 50# braid is more for a heavy rod, being thrown into heavy cover. Should I order some 40# braid (which I believe may cast better than 30#) or throw the 50# I have on there? I usually cast things like spinnerbaits, swim jigs, smaller swim baits, chatterbaits and frogs on this rod. Quote
swandog Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 50# straight braid for frogs in heavy weeds is not overkill. But it's not the best for every lure presentation. But that is the beauty of braid, you can use the braid as the main line and just tie a Flouro/mono leader (12-15#) for other lures. 2 Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted July 23, 2017 Author Super User Posted July 23, 2017 Yeah, I usually tie straight on for most faster moving lures which is what I normally fish on this rod. I usually use my spinning rod for soft plastics, but when I don't, I add a leader like you said. Quote
Super User Catt Posted July 23, 2017 Super User Posted July 23, 2017 If ya look at the rods line rating alone 50# is "overkill" on everything except most Punch Rods! Instead we look at braided lines diameter 5 Quote
Angealy Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 I personally use 15# braid for my frogs, It works great so i see no reason #50 wouldn't work. With that being said, You can add a 10 foot leader of flouro or mono and your set to go. 1 Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted July 23, 2017 Author Super User Posted July 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Catt said: If ya look at the rods line rating alone 50# is "overkill" on everything except most Punch Rods! Instead we look at braided lines diameter The same diameter as 12lb mono puts it in the 10-20 range. What should I set the drag to, 5lbs or so? 2 minutes ago, Angealy said: I personally use 15# braid for my frogs, It works great so i see no reason #50 wouldn't work. With that being said, You can add a 10 foot leader of flouro or mono and your set to go. I have used 15 mono in just lily pads without open weeds before and had no issues where I was fishing to be honest. I had the leftover 30# braid lying around, so I threw that on which lets me throw it in heavier weeds and pull lily pads out easier. 2 Quote
38 Super Fan Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 Catt is on the money, don't look at the pound test rating, just buy the diameter you want. Personally, all my casting reels get 50#, and my spinning reels get 20#. I don't like the way the thin diameter braids dig in on the spool of a casting reel. 5 Quote
Super User Catt Posted July 23, 2017 Super User Posted July 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, Boomstick said: The same diameter as 12lb mono puts it in the 10-20 range. What should I set the drag to, 5lbs or so? I throw frogs on a Cardiff 100A which only has 10# maximum drag, I set it at 6-7# drag & have no problems landing big bass in lily pads. 1 Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted July 23, 2017 Author Super User Posted July 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, Catt said: I throw frogs on a Cardiff 100A which only has 10# maximum drag, I set it at 6-7# drag & have no problems landing big bass in lily pads. On a MH or H rod though? I figure MH rods drag should max out around 6-7 lbs, so I try to keep it to 5 so if I take some line off the spool and the drag increases, I'm still in that range. 10 minutes ago, 38 Super Fan said: Catt is on the money, don't look at the pound test rating, just buy the diameter you want. Personally, all my casting reels get 50#, and my spinning reels get 20#. I don't like the way the thin diameter braids dig in on the spool of a casting reel. I believe the reason I birds nested was because the line was digging into itself -- that or I wrapped the line around a guide and it fell off before I noticed it. I have the Daiwa SV spool, so digging into the spool shouldn't be an issue with that reel from what I gather, but I was using backing as I was not sure had enough 30# to fill the spool completely. I put 15# braid on my youngest son's spinning rod and that rod virtually never gets any line twist, although I haven't switched either of mine to braid yet, although I probably will throw 15# or 20# on the larger of the two at some point. I just threw the 50# braid on. I'm guessing I will be able to cast even further. Quote
Super User Catt Posted July 23, 2017 Super User Posted July 23, 2017 All Star ASCC846CR 7' 0" Medium Heavy Fast It's factory designated a Carolina Rig, weights 3/8-1 oz 2 Quote
Super User Catt Posted July 24, 2017 Super User Posted July 24, 2017 What! The rod scared ya off? I don't believe ya need a high dollar rod for frogs, spinnerbaits, traps, or buzzbaits! As matter of fact early in the year before the vegetation gets thick I throw frogs on Big Game! 2 Quote
CTBassin860 Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Boomstick said: On a MH or H rod though? I figure MH rods drag should max out around 6-7 lbs, so I try to keep it to 5 so if I take some line off the spool and the drag increases, I'm still in that range. Reels have drag. Not rods. Even though ive used my rod to drag a fish or two. 1 Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted July 24, 2017 Author Super User Posted July 24, 2017 23 minutes ago, MassBassin508 said: Reels have drag. Not rods. Even though ive used my rod to drag a fish or two. Sorry, I mean what the rod is meant to take. Quote
OnthePotomac Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Not to rain on the braid parade, but after trying it on my bait casters and spinning reels for a season, I have gone back to either mono and fluorocarbon, except for the frog rod with 50lb Sufix 832. I just simply did not enjoy fishing with it as popular as it is, but that is the way it goes. Quote
YoTone Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 maybe adjusting the brakes would be a better solution in my opinion. Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted July 24, 2017 Author Super User Posted July 24, 2017 47 minutes ago, YoTone said: maybe adjusting the brakes would be a better solution in my opinion. Honestly, the brakes had nothing to do with it. Either the braid was digging into itself or I looped a guide -- which was my fault because I was paying attention to my kid at the time and it was totally my fault it happened but regardless, adjusting the brakes isn't the problem. I just don't have enough 30# left to respool and happen to have 50# on hand... Quote
Dtrombly Posted July 25, 2017 Posted July 25, 2017 I throw frogs with #65 braid, a MH rod and clinch drag down all the way Quote
Super User Angry John Posted July 25, 2017 Super User Posted July 25, 2017 I like 50 and 65. It's good for frogs punching and pitching. Gets the job done... Quote
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