Mod-fast action for froggin'

[Cdewyse]

I don't have enough money to buy a seperate rod for both frog fishing and deep cranks. The fitzgerald vursa series rod comes in a 7'6" MH mod-fast action. I mainly frog fish and its in some thick stuff. Would this rod be a good choice?

[sully420]

Yea its better for frogs than cranks IMO

[CTBassin860]

You can get away with it,but it's not the rod I would use for either one of those applications. I think frogs/cranks is a tough one to meet in the middle.

 

And actually for the price of the Vursa,you could get a Berkley Shock for cranks and a Veritas for frogging.Both rods for the price of one Vursa.

[sully420]

19 minutes ago, MassBassin508 said:

You can get away with it,but it's not the rod I would use for either one of those applications. I think frogs/cranks is a tough one to meet in the middle.

 

And actually for the price of the Vursa,you could get a Berkley Shock for cranks and a Veritas for frogging.Both rods for the price of one Vursa.

I agree you are better off having two less expensive rods that do the specific jobs you need then a more expensive higher-quality Rod that doesn't do either of those very well. You could buy an expensive rod to do frogging and flipping but what you want for cranking is two different than what you're looking for in a good frogging rod.

[Cdewyse]

5 minutes ago, sully420 said:

I agree you are better off having two less expensive rods that do the specific jobs you need then a more expensive higher-quality Rod that doesn't do either of those very well. You could buy an expensive rod to do frogging and flipping but what you want for cranking is two different than what you're looking for in a good frogging rod.

So should i just get the 7'6 heavy fast action vursa and then save up for a cranking setup?

[sully420]

You can go either way with it having both of the tools at your disposal will put more fish in the boat. But a 7-foot 6-inch heavy fast is exactly what you want for frogging so you won't be disappointed. You really can't go wrong and I don't want to confuse you but when I was in your position what I did was I got the rods and reels I could afford to cover the techniques I wanted to fish. And then I upgraded my equipment from there knowing exactly what I needed and wanted out of higher-end equipment. I did this because the ability to pick up a rod on the Fly and fish another technique will just put fish in the boat. then when you're ready to spend more money on equipment you know exactly what you want and why you want it.

[CTBassin860]

13 minutes ago, Cdewyse said:

So should i just get the 7'6 heavy fast action vursa and then save up for a cranking setup?

I wouldn't break the bank at all for a cranking setup.My crank rod was 30 bucks.Then again it's my least used rod.I would break the bank for a frog/pitching setup. I highly recommend the Daiwa Tatula 721HFB. 

[Cdewyse]

3 minutes ago, MassBassin508 said:

I wouldn't break the bank at all for a cranking setup.My crank rod was 30 bucks.Then again it's my least used rod.I would break the bank for a frog/pitching setup. I highly recommend the Daiwa Tatula 721HFB. 

Cranking is something that I rarely do. Especially deep cranking. I already have a 7' mh mod action for squarebills and anything shallower than 10 ft. I love the vursa rods because they do not have ceramic guides or anything that could break(i have broke way to many eyelets) So thats why i am going to stick with the vursa rod!

[WRB]

The rod to look at is Irod IRG754F Freds Magic stick. One of the most versitile rods on the market for what you are planning to use, under $150.

Tom

[Finnz922]

14 hours ago, WRB said:

The rod to look at is Irod IRG754F Freds Magic stick. One of the most versitile rods on the market for what you are planning to use, under $150.

Tom

 

There's a reason why it's called the Magic Stick. 

[Montanaro]

Yall realize that splitting the cost between 2 rods would require an additional reel purchase, right?

 

Not exactly a helpful solution for someone on a budget.

 

I cant recommend a rod.  Just that I prefer super soft for cranks especially if I were to use braid and I like xfast for frogs.  I have fished slopped with a modfast mh rod and it has benefits (shock absorption on strikes helps keep em pinned as they try to wrap you in lily pad stems before hookset).

 

Buy an all purpose stick until you can afford more gear and youll have a better feel of what YOU prefer for those techniques.

[J Francho]

On 7/16/2017 at 3:45 PM, Cdewyse said:

I mainly frog fish and its in some thick stuff.

 

Get what you mainly need.  That's a Heavy Fast rod with heavy braid.  You can also punch plastics, fish jigs, and even toss some smaller swimbaits with it.  Later when you can afford it, and you feel like you're really missing out on deep cranking, get a MH/Moderate rod and a reel loaded with 10-12# fluoro/copoly/mono - you're choice.

[CTBassin860]

1 hour ago, Montanaro said:

Yall realize that splitting the cost between 2 rods would require an additional reel purchase, right?

 

Not exactly a helpful solution for someone on a budget.

 

I cant recommend a rod.  Just that I prefer super soft for cranks especially if I were to use braid and I like xfast for frogs.  I have fished slopped with a modfast mh rod and it has benefits (shock absorption on strikes helps keep em pinned as they try to wrap you in lily pad stems before hookset).

 

Buy an all purpose stick until you can afford more gear and youll have a better feel of what YOU prefer for those techniques.

Recommending a the wrong rod for the sake of recommending a rod is just as unhelpful. If you noticed, he said he couldn't afford a separate rod for both applications. I simply pointed out 2 RODS for the same price as the one for the jobs in question. We weren't talking reels.

[Montanaro]

1 hour ago, MassBassin508 said:

Recommending a the wrong rod for the sake of recommending a rod is just as unhelpful. If you noticed, he said he couldn't afford a separate rod for both applications. I simply pointed out 2 RODS for the same price as the one for the jobs in question. We weren't talking reels.

 

So Im recommending the wrong rod?  Good to know that you have last say on all opinions, Ill be sure to come to you during xmas shopping.

 

Your idea isnt bad, 2 rods for two techniques.  But if you cant afford the reels then what is the point of 2 rods?

[Cdewyse]

2 hours ago, Montanaro said:

 

Buy an all purpose stick until you can afford more gear and youll have a better feel of what YOU prefer for those techniques.

I have 3 setups already... a 7' mh mod action for squarbills and shallow cranks, jerkbaits, spinnerbaits, and poppers. A 7'3 mh fast action for jigs, t-rig, swimbaits, chatterbaits. And a 7'4 heavy that i just broke and am trying to replace for frogs and flipping and pitchin. The main reason I'm on budget is because i am saving up for a bass boat so i can fish tournaments. It also doesn't help that i broke my leg and haven't been to work for a month! Lol. Thanks for all the help!

[CTBassin860]

1 hour ago, Montanaro said:

 

So Im recommending the wrong rod?  Good to know that you have last say on all opinions, Ill be sure to come to you during xmas shopping.

 

Your idea isnt bad, 2 rods for two techniques.  But if you cant afford the reels then what is the point of 2 rods?

Nobody said you were recommending the wrong rod. You clearly say that you can't recommend a specific rod,but give your preference. It was a general statement not aimed at you personally. I don't get where you think i feel I have the "last say on opinions" either. Not sure why you're so defensive, but if you need the number of a good stick removal associate i'd be more than happy to give you a recommendation.

[Montanaro]

1 hour ago, MassBassin508 said:

Nobody said you were recommending the wrong rod. You clearly say that you can't recommend a specific rod,but give your preference. It was a general statement not aimed at you personally. I don't get where you think i feel I have the "last say on opinions" either. Not sure why you're so defensive, but if you need the number of a good stick removal associate i'd be more than happy to give you a recommendation.

 

Im sorry, when you said wrong rod I thought you were referring to me and not people in general, assuming you were being defensive.

 

Cheers

 

[d-camarena]

I think you are pretty much covered. Only thing left is replacing the heavy rod and getting a medium spinning rod for weightless plastics

[fishnkamp]

For a rod to throw shallow to mid depth cranks take a look at a 6'6 Medium moderate Berkley Lightning Shock rod. They retail for $49. If you check a few local Wal Marts some of our members have found them on an unmarked clearance. They purchased them for $15.00 . You have to find the rod in stock and have it price checked at the checkout counter. You could match it up with something like an Abu Garcia Black Max.

 

I fish two more expensive rods for cranks normally. During fall striper season I need 4 rods on deck to fish 4 different rattle trap baits so I pull out two of these rods matched with a pair of Bass Pro reels on them. They work just as good as my expensive crankbait rods.

As for a good frog rod look at a Dobyns Fury FR 735C which runs around $110