Size Jig head for Ned Rig?

[BrackishBassin]

1 hour ago, IndianaFinesse said:

I would still try them, but you won't be able to throw them into thick grass.  Fish them on the edge of the grass, and in more open areas.  They can be fished over some sparse grass, especially if you swim them the way I do.  That's where the light heads come in. It's also good in the winter/late fall when the grass dies back if you have to wait. 

 

Wish I had a GoPro to take an underwater picture to show you. The whole bottom is thick hydrilla as far as the eye can see. Don't know about the deeper part, towards the outlet. I tend to stick to the shallows. Have to fish a jig there and see what it pulls up. 

 

1/10 of an ounce too heavy?

[IndianaFinesse]

1 hour ago, BrackishBassin said:

 

Wish I had a GoPro to take an underwater picture to show you. The whole bottom is thick hydrilla as far as the eye can see. Don't know about the deeper part, towards the outlet. I tend to stick to the shallows. Have to fish a jig there and see what it pulls up. 

 

1/10 of an ounce too heavy?

If you were to buy more heads, I would recommend the 1/20 and 1/15 ounce sizes, but for now 1/10 would probably work OK.  If there is solid hydrilla, you're definitely going to have to swim it, and lighter heads make it easier to keep it up.

[BrackishBassin]

57 minutes ago, IndianaFinesse said:

If you were to buy more heads, I would recommend the 1/20 and 1/15 ounce sizes, but for now 1/10 would probably work OK.  If there is solid hydrilla, you're definitely going to have to swim it, and lighter heads make it easier to keep it up.

 

Thanks! Appreciate the information! 

[fishwizzard]

20 hours ago, BrackishBassin said:

 

Reading through these posts, I was all excited to try out a Ned Rig and then I read the words "grass has been really bad". Everywhere I fish is nothing but grass. Should I take back the shroom heads I bought and save myself some frustration?

 

If you do an creek/river fishing around here the heavier heads work well for that when the current is fast.  

[BrackishBassin]

3 hours ago, Bunnielab said:

 

If you do an creek/river fishing around here the heavier heads work well for that when the current is fast.  

 

Just ponds and a lake near me. Maybe someday I'll have the opportunity to hit up a river or creek for some smallies, but for now, I'm stuck with the bucket mouthes. 

[ChrisD46]

How long has Zman been out with the 1/20th oz. shroomZ head ? ... Might be worth trying in calm conditions with a "no feel" retrieve .

[BassinFLNY]

Sorry for no sooner update. I have been using them a lot lately and have been enjoying them a lot. I caught 6 fish within 30 minutes yesterday and lost a really nice one. Also caught this one on it last week.

[IndianaFinesse]

4 hours ago, ChrisD46 said:

How long has Zman been out with the 1/20th oz. shroomZ head ? ... Might be worth trying in calm conditions with a "no feel" retrieve .

Pretty much since they were first put on the market, I believe.  I used the 1/20 ounce heads a lot before I started pouring my own.

[BassinFLNY]

One more question, I just lost about an 8 pounder from throwing the hook when it jumps, this also happens a lot with smaller ones. Any tips?

[NYWayfarer]

On ‎7‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 8:07 AM, RichPenNY said:

Yes, this is something I'm learning.  Yesterday, I fished in over 20' of water, casting out and drifting because it was windy; didn't feel any of the fish hit, felt the resistance and pull when I started reeling in the slack or just reeling up.  When in deep water, there is no doubt that resistance you feel is a fish, since at that depth there is nothing to get hung up on with this set up.  Had a great day yesterday using this technique, caught 10 LMB and one huge small mouth.  The fish are suspended in deeper water here in upstate NY now, so this technique helps me catch more fish out of my kayak without electronics.

 

Thanks so much for all the information, it has really helped me become more successful and enjoy fishing more. 

 

I agree, this is a great technique for kayak fishing without electronics.

 

It worked for me this weekend especially on Sunday. Wind was blowing me all over the place. I forgot my anchor and Vexilar T-pod sonarphone at home. I was drift fishing and bottom bouncing a ned rig. I felt no fish hit but felt resistance once I reeled in the slack line.

1 hour ago, BassinFLNY said:

One more question, I just lost about an 8 pounder from throwing the hook when it jumps, this also happens a lot with smaller ones. Any tips?

 

Try and keep them from jumping. When they feel like they are going to surface, lower your rod tip. It works most of the time.

[fishwizzard]

On the topic of Ned Rig jigheads, I picked up a pack of the new Zman heads the other day, the ones with the ribbed keeper.  

 

I am really impressed so far.  The keeper lets me thread a half-zinker on with no extra fuss and it seems to hold it very well.  I have yet to fish them but I was able to take the plastic off and put it back on a half dozen times and it seemed to be just as tight as when I started.  The hooks are still too big and heavy for my taste, but the keep seems like a winner so far.  

[IndianaFinesse]

On 7/28/2017 at 1:56 PM, Bunnielab said:

 

Try the Robos on the smallest Owner Ultra heads.  They are so soft and thin that you give up little in the way of hooksets but gain weedless-ness and imho a better gliding swim due to the angle of the line tie.  

 

I finally broke down and bought a shaky head mold, after getting tired of paying 1$+ a pop and not being able to buy the hook/weight combo that I wanted.  I could never find a small enough, quality hook in a 1/8 ounce head before.  I tried a 1/16 ounce shaky head with a 2/0 owner hook with a zoom finesse trick worm, kind of like what you're doing, and it worked pretty well swimming around shallow dead grass patches.  I still prefer a ned, bit I can definitely see where the weedless rigging could come in handy.

[fishwizzard]

I find weedless is best when I am trying to fish faster current over a rocky bottom where I can't keep an open hook head from rolling and for the trick of casting to the far bank and then hoping the plastic into the water.  I also like them when I am "hiking" and just stopping every so often to make a few quick casts, then it's just to annoy my hiking partners less by making him wait while I re-tie.  

 

On 8/22/2017 at 10:52 AM, Bunnielab said:

  

 

 

 

So I spent about 45min fishing one of these heads today.  I used the same half-zinker I took on an off a few times last night.  Even after the lure softened up, the keeper held tight.  Sadly, I didn't manage to catch anything on it, but if you want a big, heavy hook, these heads seem worth trying.  

[Mobasser]

I've had the best luck with 1/20 oz heads