Super User TOXIC Posted July 12, 2017 Super User Posted July 12, 2017 11 hours ago, XpressJeff said: My granddaughter got one on a BPS spinning reel the other day so bad I had to pull the spool off and cut the line cause it was so badly wrapped around the shaft. Yep, wind knots from line twist on spinning reels can be just as bad or even worse because the line knots and if it gets cinched too tight, no option other than cut. Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted July 12, 2017 Super User Posted July 12, 2017 There is this handy tool that is perfect for dealing with backlashes. It's known as scissors. I'd recommend surgical scissors. 2 Quote
Pro Logcatcher Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 17 hours ago, david in va said: just wondering, do yawl thumb the real any? Only when skipping on the baitcasting. During a normal cast, I'll touch my thumb to the spool to stop a backlash. I think that my best backlash happened when I accidentally moved my spool tension knob. I had a huge over spool and when I finally picked it out, I realized my floating crankbait was gone. Little did I know, but a 45 pound snapping turtle picked it up and started swimming away with it. Eventually, it bent my hook and I got my lure back. A successful backlash! Quote
Largemouth21 Posted July 12, 2017 Author Posted July 12, 2017 19 hours ago, david in va said: just wondering, do yawl thumb the real any? just wondering, did you even read the posts? most people snagged a branch or such... 1 Quote
david in va Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Largemouth21 said: just wondering, did you even read the posts? most people snagged a branch or such... yes , I read it, I only asked a simple question. Quote
StevesBass Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 22 hours ago, david in va said: just wondering, do yawl thumb the real any? Most of the time I do use my thumb but occasionally I find the middle finger works better I found something in my toolbox that works better than anything else for getting a backlash out. I picked this set up at Ace for $8 or $9 and stuck the one with the 90 degree bend in my boat. Use it a lot less these days than I use to but I still find it handy when I do manage to get one of those professional overruns. 4 Quote
Super User Sam Posted July 13, 2017 Super User Posted July 13, 2017 On 7/11/2017 at 10:19 PM, LxVE Bassin said: I average 3 backlashes an outing lol If you set up your baitcaster correctly the spool will stop when the bait hits the water. And yes, your thumb is your fail-safe option. 1 Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted July 13, 2017 Super User Posted July 13, 2017 It has never occurred to me to take a picture of a backlash. We all know what they look like! I have had my share over the years. As noted here, the really epic ones usually happen when you catch something during the cast or hit something with the lure unexpectedly. I haven't recently had one of those where you try to muscle a few extra yards, but they also can be quite impressive. One of the reasons I only use 100 yards, more or less, of line with backing on my reels is when I get a serious backlash I reach for a pair of scissors. Even if you can get your wife to straighten out the mess, it is good bet that some kinking will happen, especially with fluorocarbon. A bird'snest with braid is one of the reasons I rarely use it. With experience these calamities happen less frequently. On the positive side, they provide justification for multiple rigs. You never know when disaster will strike and spending time picking or re-spooling when the fish are biting is poor use of time in my opinion. 1 Quote
SuperCorona Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 32 minutes ago, K_Mac said: It has never occurred to me to take a picture of a backlash. We all know what they look like! I have had my share over the years. As noted here, the really epic ones usually happen when you catch something during the cast or hit something with the lure unexpectedly. I haven't recently had one of those where you try to muscle a few extra yards, but they also can be quite impressive. One of the reasons I only use 100 yards, more or less, of line with backing on my reels is when I get a serious backlash I reach for a pair of scissors. Even if you can get your wife to straighten out the mess, it is good bet that some kinking will happen, especially with fluorocarbon. A bird'snest with braid is one of the reasons I rarely use it. With experience these calamities happen less frequently. On the positive side, they provide justification for multiple rigs. You never know when disaster will strike and spending time picking or re-spooling when the fish are biting is poor use of time in my opinion. My wife couldn't understand why I rigged up 3 rods for her to fish for bluegill. Two weeks ago she reeled in a huge twisted wind knot on her favorite rod. She didn't say a word and started trying to straighten out the mess. Next thing I know she's laid the rod down and was looking frustrated. I pulled another one of her rods out of the box and told her to get back to work catching my lunch. 2 Quote
LxVE Bassin Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 9 hours ago, Sam said: If you set up your baitcaster correctly the spool will stop when the bait hits the water. And yes, your thumb is your fail-safe option. Oh wow, never heard of that before. Can you still maximize casting distance like that? Quote
boostr Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 On 7/9/2017 at 2:24 PM, StevesBass said: What happens when you snag your fishing partners lure on your back cast. I think this is the only backlash I've ever had to cut completely out. I ain't cutting that out, I spend way to much money on braid for it to be cut out. I'll sit there and untangle that mess. I don't care how long it takes. If I have another rod with me I'll do it at home. Quote
hoosierbass07 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Lews Baitbacasters = Backlash = False. In other words - if you want to stop having backlashes, use Lews! 1 Quote
Turkey sandwich Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 I get them, but it's rare that they're bad unless the wind is attrocious, I do something stupid, or I'm skipping lures. I am far from a pro at skipping and that's usually when I get them frequently. Most reels have pretty good brakes nowadays, and with the resilience of braid, you can minimize the bad ones and get most out pretty quickly. Compared to 20 years ago, almost every decent reel in the $150 range up is super user friendly. As for the thumb vs brakes vs tension argument - you can learn to lay off the brakes and tension knobs as you get better and the conditions allow for it, but be forewarned, there is a learning curve to this and it takes actual dedicated practice time to get used to. That being said, the side plate on my *** came loose wrapping 40lb braid EVERYWHERE inside the reel about a month ago while I was pre-fishing for a kayak tournament. That was a mess. I would have taken a picture, but I was way too busy cursing. 1 Quote
GrumpyOlPhartte Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Uh, @hoosierbass07, as much as I love Lew's reels, I did happen to notice that the thread reply directly preceding yours seems to show a Tournament MB. Interesting juxtaposition. I gotta admire your enthusiasm, though. My baitcasters are all Lew's, by the way, including a Tournament MB. Quote
frosty Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 2 hours ago, hoosierbass07 said: Lews Baitbacasters = Backlash = False. In other words - if you want to stop having backlashes, use Lews! I'd hate to see what would happen if I was using a shimano or daiwa seriously though, about the only time I have them is when I try to muscle the cast, or catch the tree behind me... I wish I would have taken a picture of that one! 1 Quote
Dorado Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 On 7/11/2017 at 3:01 PM, OkobojiEagle said: Guys... there's this piece of fishing equipment called a spinning reel. It's pretty good at preventing those over-runs. oe I hate baitcasters. Have a new Daiwa Tatula and Lew's MB Speed and have only used them both twice. Can't fish at night with them and bird's nests ruin it for me as I always get them in the middle of a feeding frenzy. I'm happy with my cheap Pfluger Presidents Quote
Super User Sam Posted July 13, 2017 Super User Posted July 13, 2017 5 hours ago, LxVE Bassin said: Oh wow, never heard of that before. Can you still maximize casting distance like that? After you "balance" your rod, reel, rod power and line test you are ready to cast away all day and not have a backlash,. Casting distance may be affected a small amount but at least you will not get any backlashes. Do you know how to balance your equipment??? We can tell you. Just ask. Quote
LxVE Bassin Posted July 14, 2017 Posted July 14, 2017 16 hours ago, Sam said: After you "balance" your rod, reel, rod power and line test you are ready to cast away all day and not have a backlash,. Casting distance may be affected a small amount but at least you will not get any backlashes. Do you know how to balance your equipment??? We can tell you. Just ask. Fill me in... Quote
pondbassin101 Posted July 14, 2017 Posted July 14, 2017 21 hours ago, boostr said: I ain't cutting that out, I spend way to much money on braid for it to be cut out. I'll sit there and untangle that mess. I don't care how long it takes. If I have another rod with me I'll do it at home. X2 1 Quote
hoosierbass07 Posted July 14, 2017 Posted July 14, 2017 21 hours ago, GrumpyOlPhartte said: Uh, @hoosierbass07, as much as I love Lew's reels, I did happen to notice that the thread reply directly preceding yours seems to show a Tournament MB. Interesting juxtaposition. I gotta admire your enthusiasm, though. My baitcasters are all Lew's, by the way, including a Tournament MB. Your right. Wow. The user must have ticked the Lews reel off and it backlashed out of anger. I used to hate baitcasters too but ever since I got it in my head that baitcasters are made for heavy lines and heavy lures and started using Lews baitcasters, my backlashes have gone to almost zero and no major backlashes unless I cast outside and into a tree. 3 Quote
moguy1973 Posted July 14, 2017 Posted July 14, 2017 23 hours ago, hoosierbass07 said: Lews Baitbacasters = Backlash = False. In other words - if you want to stop having backlashes, use Lews! My Lew's Mach II has backlashes way more than any of my other reels for some reason. It does have braid on it and braid is much easier to get the back lash out IMO. I do have another lower end Lew's and that's my favorite reel and rarely backlashes. For those that are cutting their line try this technique next time. It works really well with braid to get out all the loops. Haven't really tried it with other lines though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK5UfRzLbR8 1 Quote
StevesBass Posted July 14, 2017 Posted July 14, 2017 On 7/13/2017 at 11:48 AM, K_Mac said: It A bird'snest with braid is one of the reasons I rarely use it. I have the opposite experience. A birds nest with braid is exactly why I use it. I can straighten them out in a minute when I get them. But a birds nest with mono or flouro, that's a totally different experience. 2 Quote
BrackishBassin Posted July 15, 2017 Posted July 15, 2017 No pictures available, but I threw a larger sized spinnerbait for the first time yesterday - 5 casts and 5 backlashes later, I cut it off and went back to a crankbait. 1 Quote
Largemouth21 Posted July 16, 2017 Author Posted July 16, 2017 On July 12, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Fishing Rhino said: There is this handy tool that is perfect for dealing with backlashes. It's known as scissors. I'd recommend surgical scissors. id need a chainsaw for some of mine On July 13, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Frisbie385 said: I actually cringed when I saw that Quote
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