DDoksa Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 Hi all. Avid bass fisherman here, but I've exclusively used spinning reels my whole life. I've recently been looking into buying a Baitcaster. I've never tried one before, so I'm not looking to go real expensive until I get the feel of it and decide whether or not I like it. Any suggestions on a good starter combo or reel and rod totalling somewhere in the $100 range? Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted July 1, 2017 Global Moderator Posted July 1, 2017 Abu Garcia Black Max or Pro Max will serve you very well. I have several of both and am very happy. 3 Quote
Super User bowhunter63 Posted July 1, 2017 Super User Posted July 1, 2017 Lews Lazer or ABU black maxx.There both pretty good and good for the money. 1 Quote
DDoksa Posted July 1, 2017 Author Posted July 1, 2017 Anyone have an opinion on the Lew's American Hero? 1 Quote
Super User bowhunter63 Posted July 1, 2017 Super User Posted July 1, 2017 Yes a Buddy of mine got one and loves it.Held up well so far. Quote
Stasher1 Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, 12poundbass said: Abu Garcia Black Max or Pro Max will serve you very well. I have several of both and am very happy. As I posted a couple threads down, the Abu Black Max is available from Walmart's site for about $26 if you select store pickup during the checkout process. 2 Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted July 1, 2017 Super User Posted July 1, 2017 Here is where I really dislike suggesting "beginner" gear because "good enough to get started with" means you will most likely end up wasting money and hurting your learning curve. Let me compare it to a spinning reel since you are most familiar with them. When asked for a starter reel I always suggest the most affordable but most reliable reel on the market and that means a Pflueger President. It costs $50 to $60 and will last decades. There are many reels that cost more and certainly are worth their cost, but that reel will always be a great value and not need to be upgraded. A Black Max is not a bad reel, but you will want to upgrade from it if you ever put a better reel in your hands. Just help yourself out upfront. Go get a Daiwa Tatula CT. That will run you around $99 from ABCD sales on Amazon. I can assure you that they are awesome reels, durable, very easy to cast a good distance and learn to adjust properly. The braking system is terrific. Presently out of my 12 baitcasting rigs there are 7 Daiwa Tatula, Tatula Type Rs, and Tatula CTs. As for dealing with ABCD on Amazon I have purchased 3 reels separately from them and had no issues. They are good to deal with. 11 Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted July 1, 2017 Super User Posted July 1, 2017 Look for a used T3 (any model). These reels have the MagForce 3D braking system. Nearly impossible to backlash. You will have a quality reel that should last a lot longer than any $50 reel. A dual brake reel can be set up to be almost backlash proof as well. A centrifugal brake reel that has proved to be even better than a Shimano (for me) as a set-and-forget reel has been a Pinnacle Primmus. Not cheap...guess it would be called a mid-range price reel...but well worth the money AFAIC. Especially considering I bought 2 for less than 50% what stores get for them (putting them in the "cheap" price range). Unfortunately no such deal is available anymore. I suppose I should qualify my statement by saying any reel could be backlash proof if you tighten down the spool tension enough along with a high brake setting. Of course you wouldn't like it very well for fishing. Maybe as a paperweight? Quote
DDoksa Posted July 1, 2017 Author Posted July 1, 2017 Sorry for all the questions, guys. But, like I said...total baitcasting noob! There is a Piscifun low profile 13 +1 bearing, 6.3:1 reel on sale on Amazon for $36. Normally $70. Any opinions? Quote
XpressJeff Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 I would say the best for you is one you can borrow. Get a friend you fish with to loan you a decent quality rod and reel. I say this because the purchase of what most of us would call a decent rod and reel to learn on would be $150 or so. If you buy a cheapy, and a cheapy rod you will just get passed off and be disappointed. If you fish regularly you surely have a bud who will give you a 20 minute tutorial and loan you a rig. You will know in a day whether or not it's for you. No money lost if you don't dig it, and if you like it you go spend $300 at Academy and everybody is happy. Get that $300 ready! Quote
Super User NYWayfarer Posted July 1, 2017 Super User Posted July 1, 2017 Kastking Stealth. If I had started with this reel when learning bait casting I would have never went back to spinning reels. Great reel at a great price. 1 Quote
Super User Columbia Craw Posted July 1, 2017 Super User Posted July 1, 2017 I have to be objective here. My buddy is a helluvva fisherman and does not like to spend much on his rods and reels. He bought a Kastking Assassin baitcaster. I't's not for me but at under 60 bucks, it was surprisingly tight. I don't expect it will have the longevity if an aluminum framed reel but it was a good casting reel. That might be an option. I myself would spend the extra dollars and grab a Diawa Tatula CT. 1 Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted July 1, 2017 Super User Posted July 1, 2017 Never heard of Piscifun. I can guarantee that free shipping is for Prime members only. A search turned up this. Quote "...a line capacity of 12lbs – 100yds: maximum drag: 12lbs. Weighing 7.37ozs and manufactured in fiber glass and brass," Definitely look elsewhere. I am not aware of any other reel being made from fiberglass. Kasking is a sponsor and has reels in that price range. Directly from Abu...Black Max/ 6'6" M combo for $69.99. And...no...I have no experience with either. http://www.abugarcia.com/abugarcia-combos-baitcast-combos/abu-garcia-black-max-combo/1371162.html?utm_source=Mercent&utm_medium=PLA&utm_campaign=GoogleShopping&mr:trackingCode=50E04602-222A-E511-80F6-0050569437F6&mr:referralID=NA&mr:device=c&mr:adType=plaonline&mr:ad=83433569107&mr:keyword=&mr:match=&mr:tid=pla-18283950120&mr:ploc=9006935&mr:iloc=&mr:store=&mr:filter=18283950120&jt=1&jap=1o2&js=1&jsid=38039&jcpid=8a8ae4cd4f1f3d21014f445d90b276c5&jtid=gcp:se_38039:pp_18283950120:ag_19617211147:cp_322685467:n_g:d_c:cr_83433569107&gclid=CLzy54_p6NQCFVJLDQod1eQFsQ Alternatively I would suggest a Berkley Lightning or Lightning Shock for an inexpensive rod. That and a Black Max can be found for your $100 limit. There are other possible options if you keep an eye open for sales. Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted July 1, 2017 Super User Posted July 1, 2017 Forget the Kast Kings and Piscifun. Stick with the Daiwa Tatula you will be better off and the cost is not that much more. 2 Quote
hzzhangc Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, fishnkamp said: Forget the Kast Kings and Piscifun. Stick with the Daiwa Tatula you will be better off and the cost is not that much more. This. If you end up not like it you can easily resell it and probable lose $20. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted July 1, 2017 Super User Posted July 1, 2017 2 hours ago, fishnkamp said: Forget the Kast Kings and Piscifun. Stick with the Daiwa Tatula you will be better off and the cost is not that much more. OP, I agree with this. Jet.com has the CT 100HL for $99.28 with free shipping. This is a left hand 6.3:1 ratio reel. Having used spinning reels exclusively, there is a good chance you were reeling with your left hand so this will be no problem for you. Unfortunately 72 cents is not going to buy you much of a rod with your $100 budget. Now if we can just talk you into the $100-$110 range for each then you have several choices that would make an excellent combo. One you would enjoy for years to come. However, I always hesitate to suggest a $200-$220 combo to someone with a $100 budget.....no matter what my personal opinion is. You are talking to a bunch of guys that do very little rod and reel shopping at a local Walmart. Guys not afraid to spend $100 on either a rod or reel. Some are willing to spend many times that on each item. I would too if I could afford it. Increase your budget to $220 and fishnkamp (and others) can give you some excellent recommendations for a first combo. 1 Quote
Quarry Man Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 8 hours ago, fishnkamp said: Go get a Daiwa Tatula CT. That will run you around $99 from ABCD sales on Amazon. I can assure you that they are awesome reels, durable, very easy to cast a good distance and learn to adjust properly. The braking system is terrific. Presently out of my 12 baitcasting rigs there are 7 Daiwa Tatula, Tatula Type Rs, and Tatula CTs. As for dealing with ABCD on Amazon I have purchased 3 reels separately from them and had no issues. They are good to deal with. I second the Daiwa Tatula CT Suggestion. I am currently in the process of upgrading away from rods that don't fit my needs well. Instead, i am getting 3 casting and 3 spinning rods. Quote
Yudo1 Posted July 2, 2017 Posted July 2, 2017 The worst thing you as a beginner can do is get a reel that is not dependable or is finicky. Don't set yourself up for failure and frustration. Buy a reel made from a company with a history and reputation for making quality reels backed by the best customer service My favorites are shimano and daiwa. In your price range the tatula ct is a no-brainer. I fished with my buddy last week and I noticed he was constantly pulling out back lash after back lash and I was consistently outcasting him. He doesn't own a single shimano or daiwa. I spent my time fishing. Quote
greentrout Posted July 2, 2017 Posted July 2, 2017 Well, the KastKing Royale Legend Baitcasting Fishing Reel is a best seller on Amazon with 4.5 rating over 500 reviews for 39.98. Sounds good. I've never been a reel snob. Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted July 2, 2017 Super User Posted July 2, 2017 If you need to stick to your $100 budget then do this. Walk into your local Dicks Sporting Goods store. Purchase a jig, a pack of gum, anything cheap. i usually buy a Jawbone brand skirted jig for $2.99. Believe it or not they are pretty decent jigs, they are the Dicks brand. Now you have a receipt. Go home and go online . Find the address on the back of your receipt and fill out their online "customer satisfaction survey". Print out your $10 off coupon when you are done. Now return to the store and pick up a Lews Mach 1 baitcasting combo. It runs $129.99 regularly, but now use your $10 off coupon. That makes the combo $119.99. Add some line and you have a good combo for as close to your targeted budget. That is about as close as I can suggest with quality equipment. By the way always use that "survey" trick anytime Dicks is selling something you are interested. There is no maximum times you can do it. It just takes a fresh receipt. So the receipt for the rod and reel combo can get you your next $10 off coupon. They do have an expiration date though. 3 Quote
DDoksa Posted July 2, 2017 Author Posted July 2, 2017 Does the Daiwa CT come in a combo? Or is the price you guys are mentioning just for the reel? Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted July 2, 2017 Super User Posted July 2, 2017 I got my oldest son an Abu Garcia Black Max for his first decent rod and first casting rod. The reel is actually pretty good and really smooth but the rod in the Black Max combo isn't nearly as good as the reel, but if you are happy with it that's okay. The Abu Garcia Vengeance rod is much better, but I would probably get a Berkley Cherrywood or Shock rod to pair with the Black Max myself, those are both great for the price. Alternatively, I would look at what fishnkamp said and get a Lews Mach 1 casting combo, either on Dick's using the $10 off coupon or on Amazon, which will end up costing the same and have a quality rod. 30 minutes ago, DDoksa said: Does the Daiwa CT come in a combo? Or is the price you guys are mentioning just for the reel? The Daiwa Tatula CT does not come in a combo. You might be able to get a Tatula rod for a little over $100 and a reel for the same, but you will exceed your budget. I use a Tatula SV reel with a 6'10" MH fast action Tatula rod myself, it's certainly not a bad setup. Quote
hunterPRO1 Posted July 2, 2017 Posted July 2, 2017 black max for 40 bucks at academy, easy to cast, and have a solid drag, and 6.4 is a good all around speed. perfect beginning bait caster. Quote
LxVE Bassin Posted July 2, 2017 Posted July 2, 2017 Don't get the Abu Garcia Silver Max what ever you do. Lews Carbonfire is a good choice but it's only sold at Dicks if you have one in your area. Quote
Super User Catt Posted July 2, 2017 Super User Posted July 2, 2017 19 hours ago, DDoksa said: Anyone have an opinion on the Lew's American Hero? Bought my youngest son one for a wedding present; smooth casting, great drag, 7.1:1 gear ratio. Bought the American Hero 6'10" MH Baitcast Rod & Reel Combo from Academy for $79.99. Quote
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