Fordbassin Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 Hello everybody I just bought 2 shimano caenans their $100 reel. One of the reels works flawlessly while the other casts louder and backlashes almost every cast. The breaks are set up exactly the same. Does anyone have any clue on what the problem is? Thank you
Leftymuk Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 Have u adjusted the spool tension? Line the same? Lure weight? Everything is a game changer
Fordbassin Posted June 25, 2017 Author Posted June 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Leftymuk said: Have u adjusted the spool tension? Line the same? Lure weight? Everything is a game changer Yes it's all the same. Sounds like a mechanical problem when casting.
22hertz Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 Put a drop of the oil that came with the reel on a Q-tip and rub it around the the brake ring. You need to do this frequently (every or every other fishing trip) How many brake shoes are turned on/off?
Fordbassin Posted June 25, 2017 Author Posted June 25, 2017 3 hours ago, 22hertz said: Put a drop of the oil that came with the reel on a Q-tip and rub it around the the brake ring. You need to do this frequently (every or every other fishing trip) How many brake shoes are turned on/off? I've messed with it so much I've went from 2 on 2 off to 3 on 1 off to all 4. Really appreciate the help. I'll see what it does
Lost.. Posted June 30, 2017 Posted June 30, 2017 Stop whatever you're doing with the one casts louder and backlashes constantly, put it back in the box and return it. Why continue to mess with it? 9
Super User rippin-lips Posted June 30, 2017 Super User Posted June 30, 2017 ^^^ this! If one works great and the other doesn't then you swap it out for another reel.
Super User J Francho Posted June 30, 2017 Super User Posted June 30, 2017 Take it back for an exchange. Seems so simple. 1
LxVE Bassin Posted July 1, 2017 Posted July 1, 2017 19 hours ago, LuxN said: Stop whatever you're doing with the one casts louder and backlashes constantly, put it back in the box and return it. Why continue to mess with it? Thank you!
22hertz Posted July 25, 2017 Posted July 25, 2017 On 6/30/2017 at 2:03 PM, djektd said: Stop whatever you're doing with the one casts louder and backlashes constantly, put it back in the box and return it. Why continue to mess with it? If you read the manual it states the brakes must be oiled periodically. Its not "messing with it" its proper maintenance of the reel and the described problem are direct symptoms of a dry brake.
Super User Angry John Posted July 25, 2017 Super User Posted July 25, 2017 I would just do the simple checks breaks spool tension and proper lube and if it still gives you any issues just do the return. Don't wait longer than 30 days some stores will not help after that. Check the stores return policy just to be safe 1
Lost.. Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 On 7/24/2017 at 11:43 PM, 22hertz said: If you read the manual it states the brakes must be oiled periodically. Its not "messing with it" its proper maintenance of the reel and the described problem are direct symptoms of a dry brake. To be honest, your message comes off as a little condescending.. This shouldn't have to be done with a brand new reel. The reason I suggested "not messing with it" is the fact that it is brand new.. Why mess with a reel that may or may not have a bigger problem than throwing some oil on it, possibly damaging it further, then not being able to return it?
Super User J Francho Posted July 26, 2017 Super User Posted July 26, 2017 I don't recall EVER having to oil the brakes on any of my Shimano reels after "every couple of trips." Maybe once a every couple of months, a drop on the spool bearings. The brakes are part of yearly maintenance. Something is defective on that reel, take it back. 4
22hertz Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 9 hours ago, djektd said: To be honest, your message comes off as a little condescending.. This shouldn't have to be done with a brand new reel. The reason I suggested "not messing with it" is the fact that it is brand new.. Why mess with a reel that may or may not have a bigger problem than throwing some oil on it, possibly damaging it further, then not being able to return it? Yes, it should be done to a new reel because Shimano says you should do it. It is designed and specified to be oiled periodically. If the reel sits in a hot warehouse for an extended period of time it is possible the oil has evaporated or migrated from the brake pipe and that will cause a screeching noise during a cast, cause poor performance and prematurely wear the brakes. Shimano provides oil with the reel specifically for this purpose (and oiling the spool bearings) My rhetorical question to your question "Why mess with a reel that may or may not have a bigger problem than throwing some oil on it, possibly damaging it further, then not being able to return it?" Why return any product before reading and performing the manufacturers recommended maintenance for the product? I tried finding the manual for the reel to copy/paste what Shimano says about this but surprisingly I don't see any modern reel manuals on their site and Im not home where I can scan from my manual. This is what your'e supposed to do (although I only put a small drop of oil on a Q-tip and rub it around the brake pipe as you only want a very small film of oil) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJIqAk9gKiE
I.rar Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 If I have to 'maintain' a brand new out of the box reel, it's going back in the box for an exchange. At most, you could remove excess grease the company puts in there but the reel should still perform without doing so. 1
Lost.. Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 13 hours ago, 22hertz said: Yes, it should be done to a new reel because Shimano says you should do it. It is designed and specified to be oiled periodically. If the reel sits in a hot warehouse for an extended period of time it is possible the oil has evaporated or migrated from the brake pipe and that will cause a screeching noise during a cast, cause poor performance and prematurely wear the brakes. Shimano provides oil with the reel specifically for this purpose (and oiling the spool bearings) My rhetorical question to your question "Why mess with a reel that may or may not have a bigger problem than throwing some oil on it, possibly damaging it further, then not being able to return it?" Why return any product before reading and performing the manufacturers recommended maintenance for the product? I tried finding the manual for the reel to copy/paste what Shimano says about this but surprisingly I don't see any modern reel manuals on their site and Im not home where I can scan from my manual. This is what your'e supposed to do (although I only put a small drop of oil on a Q-tip and rub it around the brake pipe as you only want a very small film of oil) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJIqAk9gKiE After I pointed out that it seemed you were being condescending, you decide to respond back in your first sentence with what seems like another questionable response. After this reply, I'm not going to continue to respond. Seems you're more intrigued debating with me rather then letting your original response back to the OP stand, allowing him to decide what works best for his situation. Nowhere have I seen a manual recommend or instruct someone to take apart a brand new reel and make sure it's properly lubed/oiled or checked over to make sure the factory didn't forget anything else... In some cases, this may actually void the warranty. It recommends being wiped down after each use and being cleaned lubed once per year to my knowledge. If a reel was missed being lubed when it was being constructed, it's possible something else could have been missed during the process. Also, OP bought both reels at the same place at the same time, they likely both sat in the same "hot warehouse" and would have suffered the same fate, leading me to believe something else was wrong with the reel in question. Your rhetorical question logic is flawed.. When you pull out of the dealership with your brand new car and the engine is knocking, you then decide to check the oil only to realize there is almost no oil at all in it.. What do you do, head to autozone for a few quarts or take it back to the dealership? I'll wait..
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