Sholt Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Hey All Im new here but fish all the time. An old timer from the town I live in recently told me a fable of a 21lb bass in one of the local ponds. 90 feet deep in a few places and a mile long. No one ever really pulls out monster bass but divers have seen them feeding on schools of perch. Im very intrigued and would like recommendations on a good rod and reel combo as well as line recommendations. Im thinking of going with a deep swimming realistic soft bait. Either a yellow perch or shiner type, if anyone has any recommendations or ideas let me know. Im looking forward to it. Quote
IndianaFinesse Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 Sounds like just that, nothing but a fable... 4 Quote
Super User RoLo Posted June 22, 2017 Super User Posted June 22, 2017 How do you weigh a bass without catching her first? For now we'll just call her "Nessie" Roger 2 Quote
Sholt Posted June 22, 2017 Author Posted June 22, 2017 Thanks @Turtle135I was looking at this exactly lure, any idea on what the best rig to fish for something that big would be? I know Im chasing a ghost here but thats what its all about to me. Quote
Turtle135 Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 On 6/22/2017 at 7:34 AM, Sholt said: Thanks @Turtle135I was looking at this exactly lure, any idea on what the best rig to fish for something that big would be? I know Im chasing a ghost here but thats what its all about to me. I was half joking about the Huddleston. That lure weighs 4.25 ounces so you really need a swimbait setup to cast a presentation that heavy. If you want to go that route take a look at extra heavy casting rods rated to handle that weight. Just as an example look at this hardware. http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Daiwa_DX_Swimbait_Casting_Rods/descpage-DXB.html http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Swimbait_Reels/catpage-SBRLS.html What I would really recommend for most anglers is to throw big jigs and big 10" - 12" ribbontail worms. Those presentations can be handled on medium heavy casting setups. http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Culprit_Original_Worm/descpage-CULPOW.html 1 Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted June 22, 2017 Super User Posted June 22, 2017 Where do you live? I'd imagine it's just a fisherman's tale but I guess in certain parts of the country there's a slim chance. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted June 23, 2017 Super User Posted June 23, 2017 10 hours ago, Sholt said: Thanks @Turtle135 Im gonna get her!! Which her? 1 Quote
Super User Angry John Posted June 23, 2017 Super User Posted June 23, 2017 I was going to recommend a Matt lures perch and that's around 2 oz. A dobyns 807 would match well with a 300 series low profile reel on 20 lb yhb or cxx. That setup would fish almost any soft bait around. 2 Quote
bigfruits Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 why not? the largest bass in the world has probably never been caught. try a big perch colored swimbait. drag it sloooooowly on the bottom. get a well balanced big bait rod if you have big bass in your area. whats your budget? look at the Onager. a heavy fast rod and braid should do if you dont want a dedicated XH. 1 Quote
Super User Darren. Posted June 23, 2017 Super User Posted June 23, 2017 Welcome aboard! W/o a weight, a hooked but not landed fish is a legend I know, I've caught a bunch of DD bass!! 1 Quote
Sholt Posted June 23, 2017 Author Posted June 23, 2017 20 hours ago, MassYak85 said: Where do you live? I'd imagine it's just a fisherman's tale but I guess in certain parts of the country there's a slim chance. I live in mass. I believe the old timer for a few reasons. I want to and it's a state record for catch and keep Quote
BassNJake Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 Well thats about 4.5 lbs larger than the current state record for Mass. ..... Good Luck!! 1 Quote
GrumpyOlPhartte Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 If I remember correctly, the MA state record is over 15 pounds. (Must have translated it to doggie pounds - if I divide that number by seven I get a more realistic number for my typical catch ... on a good day!) Seriously though, I did buy a rod with the intent of trying a weedless Hud 68 which I think weighs around two ounces. I figure if I cast that using my patented (meaning I screwed up) mortar cast, the concussion when it hits the water should stun any large bass in the vicinity and I'll just scoop them up when they float unconscious to the surface! Only thing left is to make the wife understand why I need a couple of twenty-five dollar lures! 3 Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted June 23, 2017 Global Moderator Posted June 23, 2017 17 minutes ago, GrumpyOlPhartte said: If I remember correctly, the MA state record is over 15 pounds. (Must have translated it to doggie pounds - if I divide that number by seven I get a more realistic number for my typical catch ... on a good day!) Seriously though, I did buy a rod with the intent of trying a weedless Hud 68 which I think weighs around two ounces. I figure if I cast that using my patented (meaning I screwed up) mortar cast, the concussion when it hits the water should stun any large bass in the vicinity and I'll just scoop them up when they float unconscious to the surface! Only thing left is to make the wife understand why I need a couple of twenty-five dollar lures! It's more likely I'd catch a 21 pound bass in Michigan than convince my wife I needed 1 lure that cost $25 2 Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted June 23, 2017 Super User Posted June 23, 2017 What? You think a $25 lure is expensive? Try these. http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gone-fishin’/2013/07/4-japanese-bass-fishing-lures-deserve-spot-your-tacklebox-0 Quote
Pro Logcatcher Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 The only reason I'd catch that fish is if I snagged it. They don't get that big by biting everything that passes by. Good luck, though. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 23, 2017 Super User Posted June 23, 2017 A 20 lb. largemouth bass in MA is pretty much near impossible. 2 Quote
Sholt Posted June 23, 2017 Author Posted June 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, J Francho said: A 20 lb. largemouth bass in MA is pretty much near impossible. until its caught 2 hours ago, GrumpyOlPhartte said: If I remember correctly, the MA state record is over 15 pounds. (Must have translated it to doggie pounds - if I divide that number by seven I get a more realistic number for my typical catch ... on a good day!) Seriously though, I did buy a rod with the intent of trying a weedless Hud 68 which I think weighs around two ounces. I figure if I cast that using my patented (meaning I screwed up) mortar cast, the concussion when it hits the water should stun any large bass in the vicinity and I'll just scoop them up when they float unconscious to the surface! Only thing left is to make the wife understand why I need a couple of twenty-five dollar lures! Im thinking 250-300 and going after it in the fall and winter if it freezes. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 23, 2017 Super User Posted June 23, 2017 No, I mean it doesn't exist. You can think what you want, but it's pure fantasy. 4 Quote
Sholt Posted June 23, 2017 Author Posted June 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, J Francho said: No, I mean it doesn't exist. You can think what you want, but it's pure fantasy. You dont know that, and youre from NY so... Quote
Super User scaleface Posted June 23, 2017 Super User Posted June 23, 2017 Try a chicken nugget . 8 Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted June 23, 2017 Super User Posted June 23, 2017 17 minutes ago, Sholt said: You dont know that, and youre from NY so... Not trying to burst your bubble but I think what he's trying to imply is Northern Strain Largemouth don't get that big, period, for a number of reasons. Also...you said the old man told you a fable of a fish. It sounds like this was from a long time ago. In which case even if it was a 21lb fish, it's dead now. Now I'm sure there are still teeners swimming around that are absolutely worth pursuing, and I'd loooooooove to know what kind of stuff is swimming out in the middle of Wachusett reservoir that hasn't ever seen a lure before. But I think the 21lb bass is likely a case of a lying scale or lying fisherman. The real question is by how much? A 12lb fish exaggerated to 21 is still a fish I'd spend serious time on if I knew where it was. All that being said I like to think there are still fish somewhere in the state capable of breaking the state record. Whether they can actually be caught is another story. There are just certain fish that will never see a fisherman unless the state regs change. 4 Quote
GrumpyOlPhartte Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 @Sholt and @J Francho: just for the heck of it I looked up the state records for MA and NY. I found this at wideopenspaces.com. Massachusetts : 15 lbs, 8 oz Sampson Pond Walter Bolonis - 1975 New York: 11 lbs, 4 oz. Buckhorn Lake. John L. Higbie - 1987 Just thought you'd like to know. Quote
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