ETX92 Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Anybody throw a senko on an unweighted twistlock style hook? I've been throwing them on a regular 3/0 EWG and they won't last even two fish. If you hit a bream bed with them the neck on the senko sometimes gets torn to where the bait won't stay straight even without catching a bass. I'm wondering if the twistlock would work without adversely affecting the action of the bait? I've noticed my swimbaits last a lot longer with a twistlock vs threading them on a standard EWG hook. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Use the Twistlock light with cps.I've been using this for senkos and for me the senko lasts a lot longer. This hook was designed with the senko style bait in mind. Even says it on Owners package. If it works for you like it has for me your senkos will last longer. 6 Quote
reerok Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 I have and it works. With the Owner Twistlocks I get a lot longer life out of Senkos/stickbaits. The damage I see is where the hook goes through the worm. Once you can't get a good bite anymore due to stretching damage, you simply twist the worm a bit either direction and it's like new again. 2 Quote
Super User Ratherbfishing Posted June 21, 2017 Super User Posted June 21, 2017 They're a bit pricey (compared to standard hooks) but since they tend to be gentle on the baits, that compensates some. But I do like them and I especially appreciate how the center "post" makes it much easier to thread the screw onto the bait. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 21, 2017 Super User Posted June 21, 2017 Years ago I made my own springs before Hitchhiker came out with a clip on spring and used those until Owner came out with CPS spring, now that is my choice. I use CPS springs on my jigs in lieu of a fiber weed guard. The answer is yes they help with Senkos and any other soft plastic to attach to a hook eye. Caution, be careful not to thread your line through the CPS spring attachment loop when tieing knots as it can weaken the knot strength. Tom 7 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 21, 2017 Super User Posted June 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, WRB said: Years ago I made my own springs before Hitchhiker came out with a clip on spring and used those until Owner came out with CPS spring, now that is my choice. I use CPS springs on my jigs in lieu of a fiber weed guard. The answer is yes they help with Senkos and any other soft plastic to attach to a hook eye. Caution, be careful not to thread your line through the CPS spring attachment loop when tieing knots as it can weaken the knot strength. Tom Nice ~ Any chance you could post up a picture of that Tom @WRB ? Sounds like something I should be doing too. A-Jay 1 Quote
jr231 Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 Nope. I have em but usually just use em for fat IKAs and small paddle tails. 3/0 ewg is a perfect hook for a tx weightless 5" senko and I can flip it and use the worm wacky and still catch fish with this same hook... If your bait gets torn up , cut 1/4" off the bait and re-rig... This keeps the hook in fresh plastic and I promise the bass don't mind if the bait is 4&3/4" . Lol. I've cut em all the way down under 4" and had continued success with them. 1 Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted June 21, 2017 Super User Posted June 21, 2017 The trick to getting a Senko to last multiple fish is all in the rigging accuracy and the hook if you are Texas rigging it. My record for 1 Senko was 15 hard fighting smallmouth. Use a thin wire hook, make sure the "head" of the Senko covers the hook eye very close to the ling (but not any more or the line movement will cut the bait) and make sure when you skin hook the bait it is is as close to perfectly straight as you can get it. Pulled too tight and it will rip the head of the bait back off the hook and too loose will push it up and line will cut it. Take a look at SKip Gap hooks as well. 2 Quote
Super User Chris at Tech Posted June 21, 2017 Super User Posted June 21, 2017 Yes The Owner Light Twist-lock 3/32 weighted 4/0 hook is tied on one of my rods 90%+ of the time. Senko, fluke, rage craw, etc. 3 Quote
npl_texas Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 2 hours ago, WRB said: Years ago I made my own springs before Hitchhiker came out with a clip on spring and used those until Owner came out with CPS spring, now that is my choice. I use CPS springs on my jigs in lieu of a fiber weed guard. The answer is yes they help with Senkos and any other soft plastic to attach to a hook eye. Caution, be careful not to thread your line through the CPS spring attachment loop when tieing knots as it can weaken the knot strength. Tom Yes, be careful when tying these hooks. I learned the hard way. If you get it through the spring loop your line will snap when you set the hook. 1 Quote
CTBassin860 Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 3/0 Owner twist locks is all I use for T-rigs. 3 Quote
Super User JustJames Posted June 21, 2017 Super User Posted June 21, 2017 3/0 twist lock for almost everything from Fluke/Senko and Fat Ika and small swimbait. add: here is a quote from tackle warehouse about owner twist lock light hook "Designed by bass fishing professional and world-famous lure designer, Gary Yamamoto, the Owner TwistLock Light Hook was created for rigging Senko-style baits and other thinner profile soft plastics" I think I've read somewhere he recommended 3/0 for 5" Senko. 4 Quote
CroakHunter Posted June 21, 2017 Posted June 21, 2017 7 hours ago, A-Jay said: Nice ~ Any chance you could post up a picture of that Tom @WRB ? Sounds like something I should be doing too. A-Jay I'm with @A-Jay would love to see that @WRB Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted June 21, 2017 Super User Posted June 21, 2017 I use the Twistlocks in almost every situation where I would have before used a EWG. For reasons I cannot articulate, I hate the weighted ones though, and use the Moaner Hooks ones for that. Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted June 22, 2017 Super User Posted June 22, 2017 i've converted as many of my hooks as possible over to ones using that CPS deal, makes a huge difference for me 1 Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted June 22, 2017 Super User Posted June 22, 2017 The Owner Twist Lock Light is the best hook I ever used for Senko worms, and flukes!!! I got a pack of 3/0 to try with a Senko a few years back and I loved them, they made the worms last a little longer and I didn't have any fish throw it either. Then a friend told me to try them with fluke and I've not only tried them with flukes but a lot of other soft plastic jerkbaits and I'm sold, no better hook for those. For a 4" fluke the 2/0 is the size you want and for a 5" fluke the 4/0 works but the hooks are so sharp that a 3/0 will work just fine. I use a 3/0 for a 5" Senko and a 2/0 for the 4" Senko, and for those that say a larger hook for the 5" Senko, Gary Yamamoto says the 3/0 is the best size, he only uses the 4/0 when using the weighted hooks because they don't make the 3/0 in the weighted version. 1 Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted June 22, 2017 Super User Posted June 22, 2017 yeah they're almost a must have for fishing flukes! Quote
XpressJeff Posted June 22, 2017 Posted June 22, 2017 I love email! As WRB stated care should be taken fishing on to ensure you only time to the hook eyelet and do not also get the spring eyelet in the knot. I happen to be digitally challenged with this tablet and cannot post images to more clearly define it. Sorry! Quote
Steveo-1969 Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 To ensure I don't get the CPS Twistlock in my knot, I always thread my plastic bait onto the CPS Twistlock first, THEN tie the hook to my line. 3 Quote
Looking for the big one Posted June 23, 2017 Posted June 23, 2017 I believe WRB is saying that puts a screw lock onto the eye of the hook and adds a skirt onto the shank of the hook. I couldn't find a downloadable pic, but look up "bass dozers multi use bass jigs" and a pic should come up. Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted June 23, 2017 Super User Posted June 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Looking for the big one said: I believe WRB is saying that puts a screw lock onto the eye of the hook and adds a skirt onto the shank of the hook. I couldn't find a downloadable pic, but look up "bass dozers multi use bass jigs" and a pic should come up. Oh my. Well, he caught me, going to have to buy a few. 2 Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted June 25, 2017 Posted June 25, 2017 buy the jig hooks and hitch hiker seperately and make your own. Mustad hook #91768 This guy has good prices http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=mikelmb44&item=182596437323&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.X91768.TRS1&_nkw=91768&_sacat=0 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 25, 2017 Super User Posted June 25, 2017 On June 23, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Bunnielab said: Oh my. Well, he caught me, going to have to buy a few. That is what I was discribing, except I use small dia body finesse dia body worms and cut them 2" long with a 1/2" spilt tail where the hook point is inserted into to protect it from snags. It's easier to use Hitchhiker clip on springs that you attach after tieing on the jig. CPS spring holds better, the knot tieing is a little more difficult with older eyes ar night! Look at the 1st post showing the spring on the hook eye, it's not easy to thread your line through the opening without going through the spring wire. Tom PS, good method to attach 5" craws to a stand up jig without skirts. Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted June 25, 2017 Super User Posted June 25, 2017 The idea of using a thin plastic to make a jig weedless is really getting the gears to turn. This thread is gonna cost me some money. Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted June 26, 2017 Super User Posted June 26, 2017 I use Gamakatsu's version a lot but there is one drawback. If you fish heavy grass like I do on the Potomac, the spring keepers will collect more grass and foul a lot more. That is because there are 2 exposed areas to catch grass....the hook eye and the part of the spring clip that attaches to the hook eye. You cannot twist the bait up far enough to cover theses areas. If you go with just an EWG hook, you can cover the hook eye and it is much more weedless. 1 Quote
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