Nattyboh74 Posted June 18, 2017 Posted June 18, 2017 Looking to get maybe two sizes of leaders to use for bass spinning setups. Like I said I have a 20# braid now. Also what knot should be used when joining the braid to mono, uni to uni? Quote
Robert Riley Posted June 18, 2017 Posted June 18, 2017 I match my leader and braid diameter, so for 20lb braid, I'd use 6lb leader. I've been using a uni-uni knot, haven't been a big fan tbh. I've started using more wraps in my knot, and I think it's helping. Quote
carlosjr Posted June 18, 2017 Posted June 18, 2017 I just do this. In the Pacific NW, when I use braid to mono, I usually go 20-30lb powerpro to ab equal lb test flouro, such as 20lb. 1 Quote
Super User Angry John Posted June 18, 2017 Super User Posted June 18, 2017 The Alberto knot is your friend and is easy to learn. I hate learning knots and easy is better. The leader is completely up to you. Thats the reason for running a leader is you can match the situation at hand. I run a 10lb YHB leader on my dobyns dx 743 most often and its good all around. On my top-water rod i run 20 to a 14lb leader of XL. 1 Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted June 18, 2017 Super User Posted June 18, 2017 You'll probably be fine with 6-12lb leader depending what you are using for lures. As for leader knots, I'd recommend the Alberto as well. Quote
Super User MickD Posted June 18, 2017 Super User Posted June 18, 2017 Unless you really need stealth, stay above about 10 pound test. 6-10 is pretty fragile. Alberto is a good, small, knot, but make sure you tie it exactly correctly, with the tag end going through the loop from the correct side. Otherwise it will fail. http://www.***.com/fishing_knots/alberto-knot Quote
Nattyboh74 Posted June 18, 2017 Author Posted June 18, 2017 Any brand of mono I'd assume, big game etc. This would be outside of getting leader grade Quote
Super User MickD Posted June 18, 2017 Super User Posted June 18, 2017 Any brand, but I like leader grade. Not much is used so a 25 yard spool lasts a long time. That link to the knot has been rendered inoperative, so if you need directions on the Alberto, send me an e-mail. Quote
Nattyboh74 Posted June 18, 2017 Author Posted June 18, 2017 Does the thicker leader grade offer less presentation, if that makes sense. Like does the fact that the line is thicker, does it hinder the application and presentation of the lure? Quote
Super User MickD Posted June 18, 2017 Super User Posted June 18, 2017 I don't think leader grade is larger in diameter than line grade. It is stiffer and tougher, more abrasion resistant. Since it is stiffer it won't tangle on the jerk (actually on the slack line after the jerk) with blade baits as much as line grade does. If you have a presentation that requires soft line (what might that be?) then it would not be as good. Keep in mind that both FC and mono leader grade is used in crystal clear salt water all the time. 1 Quote
OnthePotomac Posted June 18, 2017 Posted June 18, 2017 Holy cow! 20lb braid would be like fishing with sewing thread. Is that like 4lb diameter? Quote
Super User Chris at Tech Posted June 18, 2017 Super User Posted June 18, 2017 15 hours ago, carlosjr said: I just do this. In the Pacific NW, when I use braid to mono, I usually go 20-30lb powerpro to ab equal lb test flouro, such as 20lb. Man, I miss that dude being on my TV... 1 Quote
Super User Further North Posted June 18, 2017 Super User Posted June 18, 2017 The Alberto knot is great for joining braid to mono. I use the FG knot as well, which is smaller and stronger...but I've never had an Alberto knot fail, so knot strength is sorta moot. Quote
XpressJeff Posted June 18, 2017 Posted June 18, 2017 20 pound 832 to a 14 pound Seaguar Blue box leader. Quote
Nattyboh74 Posted June 19, 2017 Author Posted June 19, 2017 Thanks. I used the uni to uni knot when doing the backing. That seems okay in terms of that but yeah, I'll use the Alberto for leaders Quote
carlosjr Posted June 19, 2017 Posted June 19, 2017 7 hours ago, Chris at Tech said: Man, I miss that dude being on my TV... he was the real deal. I miss that guy too Quote
outdoors.gus Posted July 14, 2021 Posted July 14, 2021 Thanks for the input great advice from everyone everyone in always willing to help. Thanks again Gus Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted July 14, 2021 Super User Posted July 14, 2021 I've tried the FG Knot. Bit hard for me. I've tried the Alberto Knot more often, but not often enough to get fast tying it. Here is a knot that I am going to start using for splicing lines. Much quicker and easier to tie than either of the other two knots. The last knot I used for splicing lines was the Blood Knot (5 wraps with each line). The only problem I have is maintaining the open space for the tag ends to run through. That is a problem I have with any knot requiring the tag ends to go through the same spot. Not a problem with the Lefty Kreh Knot. 2 Quote
Super User ATA Posted July 14, 2021 Super User Posted July 14, 2021 I use 16lb FC100 Fluorocarbon Quote
Super User BrianMDTX Posted July 15, 2021 Super User Posted July 15, 2021 5 hours ago, new2BC4bass said: I've tried the FG Knot. Bit hard for me. I've tried the Alberto Knot more often, but not often enough to get fast tying it. Here is a knot that I am going to start using for splicing lines. Much quicker and easier to tie than either of the other two knots. The last knot I used for splicing lines was the Blood Knot (5 wraps with each line). The only problem I have is maintaining the open space for the tag ends to run through. That is a problem I have with any knot requiring the tag ends to go through the same spot. Not a problem with the Lefty Kreh Knot. I have 20 lb braid on two spinning reels and both have 6 lb mono leader. The Lefty Kreh knot is the knot I use. Knock on wood, but I have not had one leader knot failure yet, even when I had to break off a snag. It’s got to be the easiest leader knot to tie, it's strong, and small enough it fits through guides nicely. 1 Quote
CrankFate Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 I don’t go below 10. There’s rocks and sticks to Knick the line and then big fish to break it off. No way I’m losing a fish over 5lbs for the sake of going light for the sake of going light. Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted July 15, 2021 Super User Posted July 15, 2021 Recent rigging example - 27-lb X-braid with 15-lb hard fluoro leader (inshore ML). Really smooth transition, and you can't notice a thickness change, though the fluoro is PE#3 diameter, while the braid is PE#1.2 ................fluoro...........................................................................................................braid Quote
Super User FishTank Posted July 15, 2021 Super User Posted July 15, 2021 I use Sunline Xplasma 16lb and 10lb Seaguar Premier with an Alberto knot. Quote
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