Luna2406 Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 So I've been using this 3/8 oz Chompers standing jig for a while now, with decent hook up ratio. Recently I'm wondering if there is a better choice for what I'm doing. I'm fishing a zoom magnum shaky worm on this stand up jig, do I need a bigger hook to cover more of the worm? This comes after a big fish came off during a tourney that would have won it for me lol it has me questioning everything. What would you guys use for those bigger worms? Thanks! Quote
Super User WRB Posted June 13, 2017 Super User Posted June 13, 2017 Take a look at MegaStrike Shake 2 or 2 EWG Pro stand up jigs. Tom 4 Quote
deadadrift89 Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 44 minutes ago, WRB said: Take a look at MegaStrike Shake 2 or 2 EWG Pro stand up jigs. Tom X2 best I've used 3 Quote
Luna2406 Posted June 13, 2017 Author Posted June 13, 2017 34 minutes ago, stratoliner92 said: X2 best I've used 1 hour ago, WRB said: Take a look at MegaStrike Shake 2 or 2 EWG Pro stand up jigs. Tom Would you guys happen to know the size of the hook? Quote
Bobby Uhrig Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 Its a 4/) Mustad Black Nickle -Forged -I have no issues with these hooks what so ever- On the 3/4 there is a 6"O heavy flipping hook - -Now on the new EWGs--These are totally different animals- this are 4 /O superline hooks -Heavy duty- 2 Quote
chadmack282 Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 i like the mega strike shakeE head best that said those chompers has pretty big stout hooks Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted June 14, 2017 Super User Posted June 14, 2017 I will give you a different answer than the rest. It probably wasn't the head or hook that caused the problem because you did state you have decent hook up ratios before. I've run into this problem myself, I make my own shaky heads and I use them from 1/16oz up to 3/8oz with anything from a 2/0 up to a 5/0 but my most common size is 1/8oz with a 3/0 hook. The only time I use the 3/8oz is when we fish with big worms, 10" power worms and then it is the 3/8oz with a 5/0 hook, we fish these on points in 12' to 25' of water and it produces good fish but when my buddy showed me how to do this I would lose about half the fish I was catching. I switched hooks and even dropped down in size and no change, it wasn't until my buddy landed a fish that I learned what was happening. The fish he landed was hooked in the corner of the mouth, that was odd since we normally hook them in the roof of the mouth, that is when my buddy, who is a better angler than myself, told me that the fish didn't inhale the bait, it just picked it up off the bottom. I asked how he knew this and he told me it was the way it bit, with smaller worms they can inhale the entire bait but with large worms, especially when they aren't active, they tend to pick them off the bottom with their mouth rather than inhale so you either pull the head out of their mouth, or you don't get a good hook in them and you lose it. The funny thing to me was I always envisioned that they pick it up perpendicular to the hook but my buddy told me that they don't always approach the bait from behind, if they get it from the side you end up with the hook point facing the corner of the mouth rather than the roof of the mouth and if they get it like that you may not always get them, especially if they don't have the bait deep. So what I did from that point was to pay attention to how a bite felt, and when I would land a fish I'd see how it was hooked and if the bite feels different I kind of wait an extra 2 seconds to set the hook, it has really helped but you still lose one every now and again but nothing like it was when I started using large worms on the shaky head. 5 Quote
Luna2406 Posted June 14, 2017 Author Posted June 14, 2017 @smalljaw67 thanks for that advice man I appreciate it. I do think waiting a bit too get the whole worm in their mouth is something I need to start doing. Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted June 14, 2017 Super User Posted June 14, 2017 I've fished both of those jig heads and I like them both. The Mega Strike shakey heads aren't readily available where I live. What few I have are in my tournament box. The Chompers brand is more readily available. I use both the 3/8 and 1/4 oz size - using the 3/8 more often. I use them with a regular trick worm and they work great - just as good as the Mega Strike IMO. I haven't tried either head with the Magnum trick worm. Quote
ib_of_the_damned Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Not to muddy the waters anymore with different shakey head options... But I have found that the Gamakatsu Skip Gap Shakey Heads work well for thin or elaztech worms. They also come in weights ranging from 1/8-1/4 oz and 3/0 & 4/0 hook sizes. I especially like these heads paired with the Zman Fattyz worms. Quote
Luna2406 Posted June 14, 2017 Author Posted June 14, 2017 9 hours ago, Fishes in trees said: I've fished both of those jig heads and I like them both. The Mega Strike shakey heads aren't readily available where I live. What few I have are in my tournament box. The Chompers brand is more readily available. I use both the 3/8 and 1/4 oz size - using the 3/8 more often. I use them with a regular trick worm and they work great - just as good as the Mega Strike IMO. I haven't tried either head with the Magnum trick worm. Haven't tried them with the regular size trick worm, is the screw lock not to big for them? Quote
Super User RoLo Posted June 14, 2017 Super User Posted June 14, 2017 The best standup jig to use depends on the lakes you fish. In the weedy, natural lakes we mostly fish, I like the Mustad Stand Up Shaky Head. I'd hesitate to say that it's better than the Chompers jighead (which I happen to like) but it's worth your attention. Roger 1 Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted June 15, 2017 Super User Posted June 15, 2017 No, the screw lock isn't too big. Using scissors, snip off a quarter inch or so of the nose and that gives you a solid flat surface to screw it down tight to the jig head. I've found that most screw lock jig heads work better if you snip the nose of the bait a little bit so that it gives the screw a better surface to grab. 1 Quote
Todd_Clark Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Fishes in trees said: No, the screw lock isn't too big. Using scissors, snip off a quarter inch or so of the nose and that gives you a solid flat surface to screw it down tight to the jig head. I've found that most screw lock jig heads work better if you snip the nose of the bait a little bit so that it gives the screw a better surface to grab. glad to see i'm not the only one that does this. Quote
Primus Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 For big worms I like this one http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Xcite_Baits_X-Lock_Shakey_Jig_System/descpage-XXL.html Quote
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