HeavyTwenty Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 Anyone use these regularly? I was hoping it would swim like the Z-man original or custom, but I find it rises too quickly even when slowly reeled in. At the same speed I could fish an original at 3-5 ft (rod tip up or down), the freedom swims about 0-2 ft. I've had similar issues with the *** CrazyJig and couldn't correct it even after bending the blade. I just end up yo-yoing them, which catches fish, but I want a chatterbait that swims. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 11, 2017 Super User Posted June 11, 2017 While I like & fish the Freedom bait, I have not noticed that it rides dramatically higher than other baits of this type I fish. I use a swim senko, small swimbaits & Strike King KVD Perfect Plastic Blade Minnow as trailers. Don't know if that matters. A-Jay Quote
frosty Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 Go to @Siebert Outdoors and buy fogy. It's an awesome chatterbait, it has a strong vibration and it has caught me several fish and is holding up great, not to mention it's a lot cheaper than the Zman stuff. 2 Quote
LxVE Bassin Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 I have a bunch of chatterbaits. I have two freedoms and I fished one of them on one outing and have never thought about touching them again. I was using craw type trailers which I thought was making it rise in the water column but I guess not. I mainly stick to the project z but the originals and elite work well too. 1 Quote
HeavyTwenty Posted June 12, 2017 Author Posted June 12, 2017 36 minutes ago, LxVE Bassin said: I have a bunch of chatterbaits. I have two freedoms and I fished one of them on one outing and have never thought about touching them again. I was using craw type trailers which I thought was making it rise in the water column but I guess not. I mainly stick to the project z but the originals and elite work well too. That's pretty much my experience. I tried creature bait, craw, paddletail swimbait, and fluke trailer and they still rise too much. Its a shame because I really like the design (swappable hook, texas rig). I won't let it go to waste though, it works fine as a bottom contact jig in low-vis water. I'll probably try the Siebert Fogy next since it seems highly recommended and well priced, but I really want a chatterbait with a weedguard/t-pose-able hook to pull through some sparse cover. Fortunately I've found the underspin seems to fill that role pretty well. I don't have much confidence in a spinnerbait unless there's a lot of wind. Also I seem to miss a lot of fish unless I'm using a trailer hook, which kind of negates its ability to pull through sparse cover. 1 Quote
Super User RoLo Posted June 12, 2017 Super User Posted June 12, 2017 @HeavyTwenty A bladed jig I like is the "Phenix 5/8 oz Casting Wobble Jig". It has a weedguard that's reasonably weedless, which is appreciated in central Florida. I remove the skirt and add a "Kalin 5-in Lunker Grub" trailer (the grub doesn't overwhelm the spinner blade). Ride-up is not excessive, and it holds a pretty deep track when slow cranked. Roger 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted June 12, 2017 Global Moderator Posted June 12, 2017 The Freedom is a good idea but it does ride pretty high. I've been using one with a 3/4oz and it stays down much better. Quote
Super User Montanaro Posted June 12, 2017 Super User Posted June 12, 2017 I have a few freedoms. Caught my pb on one. I dont think they run real shallow using the 3/8oz. I use soft jerkbaits as trailers. They are great around wood which is downfall of regular chatterbait. My main issue is their length and having difficulty getting a good hookset. Quote
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