My new Daiwa Steez A broke after the second use, what to do?

[freelancer27]

4 hours ago, Montanaro said:

Your first call should have been to me,I would have taken it off your hands.

 

And by "stabalizing pin" I can only assume you mean one of the frame screws.  If a frame screw is loose you will have noise while reeling as the gears are not tight in place.  Simply tightening the screws should fix any issues. 

 

Only other "pin" I can think of is the line guide rail which cannot come out unless you take slide plate off and c clips.

I can imagine

it is the silver pin that sits right behind the worm shaft and is there to keep the two side plates in check.

I think I might go with the slower ratio instead for the Daiwa Steez A. Though I am still eying at the Daiwa Steez SV TWS, which would rule out saltwater use though (which is ok). I am just worried about the lure weights that I can throw with the reel. 1/4 oz - 1.5oz is a bigger spectrum and I do not want to over stress the reel...

[rippin-lips]

17 minutes ago, freelancer27 said:

 I am just worried about the lure weights that I can throw with the reel. 1/4 oz - 1.5oz is a bigger spectrum and I do not want to over stress the reel...

The reel is just there to hold the line and store it on the spool. Your rod is what you have to be concerned with when thinking about 1.5 baits. The Steez sv tw can handle it. 

[freelancer27]

Are there any reviews out there for the Daiwa Steez SV TWS? Would love to know a bit more about the durability (freshwater only). 
 

[freelancer27]

Well,

I ordered 4 reels to compare:

- Steel A in 6:3.1 ( since the faster ratio is out)

- Metanium MGL in 7 ratio

- Daiwa SV103 in 7.9 ratio (is that reel saltwater proo?)
- Daiwa Zillion HD (seems to be saltwater proffed, but can not find a official statement on it)

Will check them out and see which one I like best and have most faith in.

I d use the Metanium, but the line rating concerns me since it is only 12/100 and I want to put 15-16 pound mono on it and I rete a lot.

Which one would you choose?

[DanQS13]

Funny how quick the Shimano guys show up when one Daiwa reel has an issue... meanwhile I'm sitting here thinking of the last 2 shimano reels I sent back (Met MGL, Chronarch CI4+) that both had quality control issues.

 

OP, the Steez A is an awesome reel and if you don't have the confidence in it and want some thing else, don't go to the Steez SV TW.  Its the same reel with different knobs and a SV spool.

 

Maybe the reel is just disappointed it's not on a Dobyns rod? 

 

Can you also answer the question people have been asking... what stabilizing pin are you talking about?? lol

 

 

I have this reel and many other Daiwa & Shimano reels, the Steez A is easily my favorite reel.

My Zillion SV TW with Hedgehog bearings and my Shimano Exsence DC are battling for 2nd place, but the Steez has quite a lead on 1st.

 

 

[freelancer27]

It is this pin

[DanQS13]

Ya idk how that would have just "fell out" after 2 days of fishing.  The reel has to be apart to remove that anyways unless you removed the clip from the end of it.  Those retaining clips are a ***** to get off so either 1) it wasn't ever there or 2) you took it apart to clean the reel and left something off.  I'll have to take mine apart and look.

 

It's possible that clip wasn't fully pressed in when the reel was built and it pop back off.  That's an easy fix but that clip would still have to be in the reel unless you took it apart (under the assumption it was partial installed on the pin to begin with)

[freelancer27]

4 minutes ago, DanQS13 said:

Ya idk how that would have just "fell out" after 2 days of fishing.  The reel has to be apart to remove that anyways unless you removed the clip from the end of it.  Those retaining clips are a ***** to get off so either 1) it wasn't ever there or 2) you took it apart to clean the reel and left something off.  I'll have to take mine apart and look.

 

It's possible that clip wasn't fully pressed in when the reel was built and it pop back off.  That's an easy fix but that clip would still have to be in the reel unless you took it apart (under the assumption it was partial installed on the pin to begin with)

Haven't touched the reel other than fishing it. Yeah no idea how this could have happened..

[DanQS13]

4 minutes ago, freelancer27 said:

Haven't touched the reel other than fishing it. Yeah no idea how this could have happened..

 

Wait until the day you guys to change line roller bearings and have to remove those clips... they are a PITA and don't come unless they feel like it.  As I said, I think something like the clip not being installed properly might have been the issue.  With that said, pull the handle off and remove the side plates.  Check and see if those pieces are inside the reel.  If they are you put them back on.

 

The reason I think they are in there is you said the pin fell out first, then you had weird noises in the reel.  Those might be the washers / c clips rubbing and catching in the gear teeth in the reel.

 

What is on the other end of that pin that is covered by ur thumb?  Is there a clip on that side?

[freelancer27]

9 minutes ago, DanQS13 said:

 

Wait until the day you guys to change line roller bearings and have to remove those clips... they are a PITA and don't come unless they feel like it.  As I said, I think something like the clip not being installed properly might have been the issue.  With that said, pull the handle off and remove the side plates.  Check and see if those pieces are inside the reel.  If they are you put them back on.

 

The reason I think they are in there is you said the pin fell out first, then you had weird noises in the reel.  Those might be the washers / c clips rubbing and catching in the gear teeth in the reel.

 

What is on the other end of that pin that is covered by ur thumb?  Is there a clip on that side?

I sent the reel back to TW already. Noway to test any more. 

I think I am gonna decide between the Steez A and the Zillion HD. Both are for the salt and both have good line capacity. The zillion is 1 oz heavier and has the handle knobs that I am not really a fan of, but is almost 100 USD cheaper. 

 

[Tim Kelly]

I think you need to go to a shop and try a few reels out. I can't see the zillion HD being a good swap for a Steez A. If you knew what you were buying a Steez A for, the Zillion or Tat TWS are a very different shaped reel. 

[DanQS13]

45 minutes ago, Tim Kelly said:

I think you need to go to a shop and try a few reels out. I can't see the zillion HD being a good swap for a Steez A. If you knew what you were buying a Steez A for, the Zillion or Tat TWS are a very different shaped reel. 

 

@freelancer27 ^ This guy is right.  Body shapes a very different if it is the older style Zillion or Tatulas.  The closest you can get to the Steez A feel in the hand is the Zillion SV TW or the Tatula CT models.  I have a CT Type R and that's a very good reel you can find on ebay for about $130.  You can also get the Zillion for about $250 all day on ebay as well.  Order from a reputable person. Now I love the older Tatula Type Rs and never had issues with the bigger body shape.  All my cranking / chatter / spinnerbait setups I have are either on a Type R 100 or Zillion TWS.

 

If you want a great solid setup that will cast as far as the Steez A TW, pick up a Zillion SV TW and put these bearings on it:

http://tackletrap.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=898_2352_1865_1520&products_id=6629

Use code BBC10 and get 10% off too.

 

P.S. I give a lot of business to TW, but when it comes to ordering higher end Shimanos or Daiwas, I can always find a better deal on ebay and I have a 10% discount on everything from TW.

[freelancer27]

3 hours ago, DanQS13 said:

 

@freelancer27 ^ This guy is right.  Body shapes a very different if it is the older style Zillion or Tatulas.  The closest you can get to the Steez A feel in the hand is the Zillion SV TW or the Tatula CT models.  I have a CT Type R and that's a very good reel you can find on ebay for about $130.  You can also get the Zillion for about $250 all day on ebay as well.  Order from a reputable person. Now I love the older Tatula Type Rs and never had issues with the bigger body shape.  All my cranking / chatter / spinnerbait setups I have are either on a Type R 100 or Zillion TWS.

 

If you want a great solid setup that will cast as far as the Steez A TW, pick up a Zillion SV TW and put these bearings on it:

http://tackletrap.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=898_2352_1865_1520&products_id=6629

Use code BBC10 and get 10% off too.

 

P.S. I give a lot of business to TW, but when it comes to ordering higher end Shimanos or Daiwas, I can always find a better deal on ebay and I have a 10% discount on everything from TW.

Yep, I ordered a couple of reels as mentioned previously, from TW. I will put them on my rod and just get a feel for them. I live 1h away from the next tackle store, so it is great to be able to take advantage of the return policy of TW.

I also purchased with my discover IT card, so if I see a better price somewhere else in the next 3 months, discover will match that price!

 

[Chowderhead]

3 hours ago, DanQS13 said:

 

If you want a great solid setup that will cast as far as the Steez A TW, pick up a Zillion SV TW and put these bearings on it:

http://tackletrap.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=898_2352_1865_1520&products_id=6629

Use code BBC10 and get 10% off too.

 

I just bought this Zillion reel and love it - already thinking about picking up another.

[DanQS13]

3 hours ago, Chowderhead said:

 

I just bought this Zillion reel and love it - already thinking about picking up another.

 

Ill tell you the same thing, put the Hedgehog Kattobi bearings in it.  It makes a huge difference.

Also get two 4x7x2.5 bearings for like 8 bucks and replace the bushings in the handles.  Link and discount code for tackletrap is above.

[Cgrinder]

Sv103 is a good idea. Very impressed with mine. 

[freelancer27]

Got the TW order today. 

4 reels I ordered to compare:

* Daiwa SV Casting Reel 103XSL

* Daiwa Steez A TW Casting Reel 1016HL
* Daiwa Zillion HD Casting Reel 100HSL
* Shimano Metanium MGL Casting Reel 151HG


My resume:

Did not like the feel of the SV103 in my hand (on the rod) for some reason --> Out
The Daiwa Zillion HD had a sturdy feel to it, though I did not like the round handles and also the weight was a bit more than I would like --> Out

Daiwa Steez A. and Metanium I spooled up with 15 pound Yo-Zuri Hybrid Fishing Line Clear and went on a field and casted a few times with a 1oz lipless crankbait. 

My result:
Distance wise: they are about the same, though the Metanium was a bit less effort. 
LIne capacity: I can see that there is more left on the Steez when I bomb it out, but it should be fine if I put braid on the reel with a mono leader
Retrieve. Here the handle of the Metanium just felt sooo much better. The Steez almost hurt a bit when reeling in.

Final decision: I am gonna keep the Metanium. (Slowly turning into a Shimano man with my Conquest, Antares and now Metanium). 
Let's hope I made the right decision!

[TimTheGearNerd]

@freelancer27,

 

This was easily the best Steez A / met MGL/ higher end reel threads I’ve read. It’s been a lot of fun to read as a gear nerd. Thanks for taking us along for the journey so many years ago. 
 

I recently got the 2017 Steez A and I purchased a 2020 Met B MGL. 
 

What are your opinions on higher end reels in 2022? 
 

Which reel ended up being your favorite all round for casting moving baits? Which have best ergo and durability? 
 

I took my Steez A out once since I got it and it definitely feels comfortable throwing a chatterbait with a total .9 oz weight. I was pairing the reel with dobyns DC735cb glass. The steez lives up the hype being super easy to use and the reel always seems in control. 
 

I use my Met for swim Jigs and spinner baits on a megabass Daemos. 
 

The Met always casts further than I expect but definitely will fluff up more often on a cast. Shimanos always seem to feel like they cast further. I often attribute the feel to the type of breaking. If I were fishing a jig or something tip up. The Met feels more comfortable since the frame narrows at the line guide. I’m not a tall dude so the way I hold the reel, the Met and most shimanos feel more comfortable to me. 
 

I’m a fan of bass fishing gear, so all shimano and Daiwa are welcome. ?

[freelancer27]

1 hour ago, Tim Hu said:

@freelancer27,

 

This was easily the best Steez A / met MGL/ higher end reel threads I’ve read. It’s been a lot of fun to read as a gear nerd. Thanks for taking us along for the journey so many years ago. 
 

I recently got the 2017 Steez A and I purchased a 2020 Met B MGL. 
 

What are your opinions on higher end reels in 2022? 
 

Which reel ended up being your favorite all round for casting moving baits? Which have best ergo and durability? 
 

I took my Steez A out once since I got it and it definitely feels comfortable throwing a chatterbait with a total .9 oz weight. I was pairing the reel with dobyns DC735cb glass. The steez lives up the hype being super easy to use and the reel always seems in control. 
 

I use my Met for swim Jigs and spinner baits on a megabass Daemos. 
 

The Met always casts further than I expect but definitely will fluff up more often on a cast. Shimanos always seem to feel like they cast further. I often attribute the feel to the type of breaking. If I were fishing a jig or something tip up. The Met feels more comfortable since the frame narrows at the line guide. I’m not a tall dude so the way I hold the reel, the Met and most shimanos feel more comfortable to me. 
 

I’m a fan of bass fishing gear, so all shimano and Daiwa are welcome. ?

Hi there! Thanks for the compliment. Though, I am not sure that I would see it as a thread that started out with the intent to be a review.

As you said, some time has passed since I started this thread and many more $$$ have been invested in reels from Shimano and Daiwa.

My overall favorite do-it-all favorite reel remains the Daiwa Steez SV TW. It is closely followed by a Steez A with the Steez SV's spool in it. Generally I am a big fan of the this platform and have, besides two Steez SV TWs, a Steez A, another 3 Morethans. 

They all would make great moving baits (excelling at slightly different lure weights). One of my Steez SV TWs is actually on my square bill rod. On my dedicated chatterbait rod I use a 201XH Calcutta Conquest. Not as smooth as the Steez' but just wanted to try something new.

Another sleeper reel for that technique (for a much smaller price) is the Daiwa Coastal TW 200. 

Lots of options out there. Not all great options have to cost a lot of money.

I personally favor Daiwa over Shimano for most applications, since I am happy to give up a little bit of distance (honestly have not experienced any loss in distance - but might still be possible) to get better control, higher flexibility (with spools) and just (for me) better ergonomics.

Tide lines!

[PressuredFishing]

If you have to receipt I would (try) to return it, although that's going to be rough almost being 6 years old. I hate customer service, they will most likley make you Pay for shipping too, and even more frustratingly, they may just stick grease in the thing and say "all fixed".