Suggestions on: Two spinning rods & two reels...

[lmbfisherman]

I personally think the Veritas is a better rod than a Mojo.  I still have a Veritas 7'3" MH/F.  I found these rods were more sensitive than the Mojo line.  I would have no problem or have a second thought about using this rod for bottom contact.  I just have better rods to do those techniques.  GLX, Cumulus, Zodias...etc.  Everyone has their own preferences though and these are my preferences.  

 

Have you held the Mojo vs Avid?  I think you should do so and numerous other rods.  Only you really can answer which you like the best.  The reason why I stated get the Avid is because you said you were thinking about getting one with a low end rod. I just think buying a higher quality rod will make the lower quality feel unfishable, I sold off all of my low end bass rods cause I'd never use them.  That is what will happen to the Cherrywood.  I will always recommend buying the best you can afford and so will many.  Having said all of this most of the 100 dollar rods will work and are all very close in quality and performance.  They are no nonsense rods, my comfort zone is 200 dollar range rods (mid tier).  They are in my opinion the best bang for the buck between high end and low end in comfort, quality, performance and sensitivity. 

[Nattyboh74]

In the end it's better than a Walmart special... I'm going to take a look at them today. Maybe I'll buy maybe I'll be back to the drawing board. I'm afraid of buying online as if they come broken, that there is that whole process to deal with.

[Looking for the big one]

Also, have you purchased the reels yet? There's a guy selling two 30 sized limited edition presidents. Might want to check them out. 

 

[Nattyboh74]

1 minute ago, lmbfisherman said:

I personally think the Veritas is a better rod than a Mojo.  I still have a Veritas 7'3" MH/F.  I found these rods were more sensitive than the Mojo line.  I would have no problem or have a second thought about using this rod for bottom contact.  I just have better rods to do those techniques.  GLX, Cumulus, Zodias...etc.  Everyone has their own preferences though and these are my preferences.  

 

Have you held the Mojo vs Avid?  I think you should do so and numerous other rods.  Only you really can answer which you like the best.  The reason why I stated get the Avid is because you said you were thinking about getting one with a low end rod. I just think buying a higher quality rod will make the lower quality feel unfishable, I sold off all of my low end bass rods cause I'd never use them.  That is what will happen to the Cherrywood.  I will always recommend buying the best you can afford and so will many.  Having said all of this most of the 100 dollar rods will work and are all very close in quality and performance.  They are no nonsense rods, my comfort zone is 200 dollar range rods (mid tier).  They are in my opinion the best bang for the buck between high end and low end in comfort, quality, performance and sensitivity. 

I understand this no doubt. But I'm looking at getting two rods at first. One worm etc and one light cranking. Again as you said that was my mindset for the avid. 

 

If I could get by with the avid and run it for everything for now, then it would work for now. I could go and buy a MH later for cranking

[lmbfisherman]

1 minute ago, Nattyboh74 said:

In the end it's better than a Walmart special... I'm going to take a look at them today. Maybe I'll buy maybe I'll be back to the drawing board. I'm afraid of buying online as if they come broken, that there is that whole process to deal with.

Maybe just buy one rod first, see if you like it and then purchase a second later.  If you don't like it you will not regret buying the 2nd rod.  

[Nattyboh74]

I contacted that member on those reels. 

 

Thanks

[lmbfisherman]

1 minute ago, Nattyboh74 said:

I understand this no doubt. But I'm looking at getting two rods at first. One worm etc and one light cranking. Again as you said that was my mindset for the avid. 

 

If I could get by with the avid and run it for everything for now, then it would work for now. I could go and buy a MH later for cranking

As long as the lure range is within the specs.  What is the lowest range and highest will you use?

[Fishin' Fool]

1 hour ago, Nattyboh74 said:

Thanks Fishin'. I was unaware that they are "stiffer" versus other brands. I didnt know that. It seems as if Im back on the drawing board. Ive been out of fishing for years and looking to get back into it. So again, Im using the membership here to get my first set up going and I'll be able to learn from there.

 

Get a Mojo in a M will feel more like a MH and get the Daiwa Tatula I recommended in the M at that price. Both great rods in that price range. Keep in mind the Tatula retails for $150. See which one you like and expand your arsenal from there.

[Nattyboh74]

Hey guys. Just got back from BPS. I see what you were saying about the feel of each rod. There doesnt seem ( as Ive, so its true ) to be a basis for the rod's stiffness. Some in Mh seemed like M and so on... They didnt have nay Mojo's there, few Avids ( were nice ) and some G.Loomis. They felt nice in store.

 

I may go with the Avids... I did see some of the guides on the casting Mojos were not in line. And there were some random lumps on the pole, under the coating.

 

 

Im going to have to think hard about this. I went from 100$ rods, to now 200 $ rods. Is there truly a difference in that big of a price jump? Or should I just go with a Abu vengence?

[WRB]

If any bass angler keeps buying different rods from different mfr's your learning curve will be reduced with each different rod maker. Why you ask? Because every rod makers makes thier rods a little different, they balance differently, feel and cast differently. There isn't any standards to base your decisions on. M medium fast action 7' rod from 6 different mfr.'s are 6 different rods. 

My suggestion was Dobyns Fury because the price point right, the quality is good, the customer service is outstanding and each series offers unique performance for highly skilled tournament anglers to weekend recreational anglers. You can always call and talk to Owner Gary Dobyns, can't do that with any other rods mentioned. ST Croix is also an excellent choice, they have good customer service, just believe they are higher price point for what you get. Just depends on personal choices.

Tom

[Fishin' Fool]

If you truly want a dedicated CB rod than a Dobyns Fury 705cb rod would be the route to pursue. However that is a casting rod and you mentioned wanting to spinning rods. If you are willing to go that route I'd get the Fury for CB and the Tatula for worms/jigs and you're looking at slightly more than the cost of an Avid for 2 rods.

[Nattyboh74]

Thanks WRB. I can see your point on your suggestion. From your opinion, are you saying that you think the St.Croix are priced a little higher than should be for the value they present? If I understood you right. How is the Sierra line up, for a few more bucks? Also Why do you recommend the M & ML versus a M & MH?

 

I dont want to mess with casting rods yet, just spinning.

 

At this point I think Im at two Avid-X rods. I favor USA made goods and they felt, good in hand. Now if there is something that feels as good as the Avid-x and its cheaper, then Id go that route. Although the Abu Garcia Vengence didnt feel bad neither.

[WRB]

58 minutes ago, Nattyboh74 said:

Thanks WRB. I can see your point on your suggestion. From your opinion, are you saying that you think the St.Croix are priced a little higher than should be for the value they present? If I understood you right. How is the Sierra line up, for a few more bucks? Also Why do you recommend the M & ML versus a M & MH?

 

I dont want to mess with casting rods yet, just spinning.

 

At this point I think Im at two Avid-X rods. I favor USA made goods and they felt, good in hand. Now if there is something that feels as good as the Avid-x and its cheaper, then Id go that route. Although the Abu Garcia Vengence didnt feel bad neither.

 

58 minutes ago, Nattyboh74 said:

Thanks WRB. I can see your point on your suggestion. From your opinion, are you saying that you think the St.Croix are priced a little higher than should be for the value they present? If I understood you right. How is the Sierra line up, for a few more bucks? Also Why do you recommend the M & ML versus a M & MH?

 

I dont want to mess with casting rods yet, just spinning.

 

At this point I think Im at two Avid-X rods. I favor USA made goods and they felt, good in hand. Now if there is something that feels as good as the Avid-x and its cheaper, then Id go that route. Although the Abu Garcia Vengence didnt feel bad neither.

SA 703SF is M, SA 704 is MH, Dobyns hasn't offered the Fury in 704 yet and it was my mistake to suggest the ML. The FR 702 & FR 703 are very popular. The SA line of rods are $50 more and excellent rods.

Agree with going 2 ST Croix rods, you will be very happy you did!

Tom

[Nattyboh74]

Thanks Tom. Again I appreciate y'all being patient here. There is a lot to learn in a few days. I'm a little upset that the avid x doesn't have a lifetime warranty. Just a 15, but the STD avid has a lifetime. 

 

Will braid work well with the small guides on the avid x?

[WRB]

Both the SC Avid rods you buy today will be out of production in less than 10'years so I wouldn't be too concerned about a 15 year warranty vs life time. You will more than likely upgrade your rods before the warranty period is over. 

Spinning micro guides shouldn't be an issue. Someone who owns or has fished with both rods can answer your question better than I can.

Tom

[Darren.]

Micro guides on my Legend Tournament Walleye rod do fine

with leader knots, specifically Uni-to-Uni and Alberto in 6-10#

test. It is a small, compact knot when tied well.

[LCG]

I recently purchased a st Croix mojo bass 6'8" mxf spinning rod and Pflueger president xt 30. Absolutely love it. Very sensitive and perfect for my intended use, finesse.

 

The reel is a good bang for you buck reel and I hear they are very durable, time will tell. So far so good. 

 

 

[Nattyboh74]

Nice Luke, Did you noticed if your guides were not all in line? There were three at BPS and two had guides, about half way towards the tip, that were not in line.

[LCG]

The guides on my rod are perfectly in line. No issues with quality at all, in fact I am quite impressed with st Croix. 

[RoLo]

 

I'd be happy to answer your question, but your pre-selected rod options belong to different cultures.

The Berkley Lightning Shock rod is a superb Bang-For-The-Buck, (I'm on record making that statement). 

But I doubt that anyone suggested that a Lightning Shock Rod is equivalent to a St. Croix Avid

or even a Mojo. 

 

I see the same cultural bias in your reel candidates, so I'll reserve my opinion on reels

for fear of being labeled a member of the Shimano posse 

 

Roger