YouTube Demonetization

[LxVE Bassin]

I noticed a lot of fishing Youtuber's are complaining about not getting paid anymore off of ad revenue. I did some reading and it looks like channels have to meet a certain criteria to be monetized. Why are fishing channels deemed controversial? 

[beardown34]

Gasp, a thread about YouTubers. 

[Bluebasser86]

18 minutes ago, beardown34 said:

Gasp, a thread about YouTubers. 

And??

As long as you're not promoting your channel or a product with your videos, nothing wrong with it. Lots of members post their Youtube videos from their fishing trips. I enjoy watching most of them. Now the shaky chest or head cams, obnoxious music, screaming about every dink they catch, filming themselves eating breakfast and getting gas, I could do without all that. Neat thing is, it's really easy to just not watch those videos and go back to watching the ones I like. 

 

As for the OP's question, I have no idea how all that stuff works but I'd guess maybe the folks who run YT aren't big fans of the sport. I'm sure you could shoot the folks over at YT a query about why it's in that category. 

[d-camarena]

I quit watching long time ago. Before everyones video for the week was exactly the same but from a different angle

[beardown34]

6 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

And??

 

I'll kindly ask you to take back one of your bewildered question marks.    

 

I'm a fan of the Youtubers. I am learning on my own and enjoy watching them for both entertainment and education. My comment was directed towards the eventual flood of comments that always follow about how those guys don't know what they're doing and are just hawking products. 

[Tyler21]

YT stopped paying because they were on the border of a lawsuit for showing ads on controversial content. Now, every channel with guns is being paid very little and it has now spread into others like fishing. That's why you see sponsors for every video on the bigger channels.

[NYWayfarer]

11 hours ago, LxVE Bassin said:

I noticed a lot of fishing Youtuber's are complaining about not getting paid anymore off of ad revenue. I did some reading and it looks like channels have to meet a certain criteria to be monetized. Why are fishing channels deemed controversial? 

 

The issue stems from advertisers bailing on Youtube as there was no way of knowing what videos their ads would show in.

 

For example a Disney ad could pop up during a Lunkers TV video where he is night hunting hogs in Texas or him hanging out with Outlaw chewing tobacco. Not exactly the videos Disney would endorse.

 

The Googan Squad seems to have countered this by partnering with Dollar Shave Club. They endorse DSC products during their videos and the ads that pop up are from DSC.

[Deleted account]

27 minutes ago, beardown34 said:

 

My comment was directed towards the eventual flood of comments that always follow about how those guys don't know what they're doing and are just hawking products. 

 

It's a medium where anyone with a camera and too much time can just upload content, so yeah, statistically most will have little or no clue and an agenda, financial, emotional, or otherwise. Nothing wrong with that of course, it's entertaining (sometimes) to those who know better. Unfortunately it's the true novice who will either absorb and apply bad information, and/or have their head spinning.

[NYWayfarer]

59 minutes ago, beardown34 said:

 

I'll kindly ask you to take back one of your bewildered question marks.    

 

I'm a fan of the Youtubers. I am learning on my own and enjoy watching them for both entertainment and education. My comment was directed towards the eventual flood of comments that always follow about how those guys don't know what they're doing and are just hawking products. 

 

In the old days we would say "you started it."

 

Will Smith would have said "Don't start nothing, won't be nothing."

[Bluebasser86]

12 hours ago, beardown34 said:

 

I'll kindly ask you to take back one of your bewildered question marks.    

 

I'm a fan of the Youtubers. I am learning on my own and enjoy watching them for both entertainment and education. My comment was directed towards the eventual flood of comments that always follow about how those guys don't know what they're doing and are just hawking products. 

But if some of the most popular youtubers don't know much about what they're talking about and instead spread misinformation, while hawking products, there's a reason it rubs folks the wrong way.

Also, if you start responses to a question by giving a sarcastic response that in no way answered the OP's question, you're probably more likely to bring out the "flood of comments" from those who otherwise might be apt to just move onto the next subject instead of responding.

[fishballer06]

I was unaware this spread to this fishing channels as well. I know the gun channels that I watch have had this issues for about 2 months or so now. A lot of them have started Patreon accounts to help them keep funding their channels. 

 

If this keeps up, I can imagine it's only a matter of time before another website comes along to host videos that's lucrative for the content creators. 

[NYWayfarer]

5 minutes ago, fishballer06 said:

I was unaware this spread to this fishing channels as well. I know the gun channels that I watch have had this issues for about 2 months or so now. A lot of them have started Patreon accounts to help them keep funding their channels. 

 

If this keeps up, I can imagine it's only a matter of time before another website comes along to host videos that's lucrative for the content creators. 

 

A lot of the fishing channels are intertwined with gun channels. I have seen Lunkers, Flair, Lake Fork Guy and Jon B all shooting guns and hunting on their fishing videos.

[fishballer06]

9 minutes ago, Finesse Wayfarer said:

 

A lot of the fishing channels are intertwined with gun channels. I have seen Lunkers, Flair, Lake Fork Guy and Jon B all shooting guns and hunting on their fishing videos.

 

Maybe so, but channels like Military Arms Channel, Hickock45, Yankee Marshall, Hegshot87, and the likes are strictly firearms and concealed carry based. 

[NYWayfarer]

12 minutes ago, fishballer06 said:

 

Maybe so, but channels like Military Arms Channel, Hickock45, Yankee Marshall, Hegshot87, and the likes are strictly firearms and concealed carry based. 

 

Sorry, I was trying to point out the reason the money and ad issue has spread to the fishing channels.

[Munkin]

4 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

But if a some of the most popular youtubers don't know much about what they're talking about and instead spread misinformation, while hawking products, there's a reason it rubs folks the wrong way.

 

 

You mean that 15 year old kid giving tips out of his parents basement on a crankbait that has been out 2 weeks isn't legit?

 

Allen

[Deleted account]

4 minutes ago, Munkin said:

 

You mean that 15 year old kid giving tips out of his parents basement on a crankbait that has been out 2 weeks isn't legit?

 

Allen

 

More legit than the 30 year old "unboxing" his monthly tackle delivery with a box of tissues and a bottle of lotion in the background...

[d-camarena]

I respect their grind but it really grinds my gears when they give advice but have no evidence to back it up. They give you advice on how to catch big bass but then they get to fishing and only catch a bunch of 1 pounders. Not talking about all of them. 

[Choporoz]

What's a Utube? 

 

Kidding of course...but, I admittedly know nothing about any recent changes in advertising for the fishing YT DIY'ers.  I do suspect, though, that as an emergent commodity/service, things are going to shift and settle when money is in play.  The market will find a way to reward those that produce videos that become 'in demand'.  Those that are dismissed by a large segment of the population won't get much (any?)  Google is smart and will find a way to move from random matching of advertisers and viewers.  Disney commercials will end up on kids' programming...BPS will end up on fishing programming and quality content providers will get compensated.  Hopefully, poor content quality providers will not.

  I never understood the intense negative reaction towards disliked content.  No different than TV, or movies, or radio....or any other entertainment medium....if you don't like it, why watch and complain?  And if someone else sees fit to pay for that content you dislike...well, more power to the originators. Capitalism is a cool concept.

[JustJames]

I don't know about any money maker of those utubers but I hope they can still make money and continue of their video content. 

Everyone has the right to become u-tubers and earn money. I enjoy a lot of video produce by these kids. Some ppl think they are idiots and have nothing else to do, but to produce one video, invest in those GoPro, drone, take time to edit their clips, that is call a work of their own.

I watch their video for entertainment and education, I'm not that naive to just buy any product their advertise. Sometime I even thinking of support their channel to keep them going.

There I said it, btw I like Lake Fork Guy but not the young kid that keep screaming.

[Lures'n'Liberty]

It was an invitation to fish on a buddy's YT channel that got me interested in bass fishing again. My first appearance on there was a little over a year ago and I've since been in a few other episodes (or at least skunked during the filming) as well as given a hand in the production. As far as monetization goes, he didn't exactly set the world on fire from the get go, but he did land a couple sponsorships. One sponsor sets him up with a smokin discount, another sends him a lot of high end baits, and a third, the local bait shop, had him produce several promotional videos for them before eventually hiring him on 4 days a week, where, with the help of his channel, he has done really well. Long story short, think outside the box and there's more money to be made.

[Bluebasser86]

6 hours ago, Munkin said:

 

You mean that 15 year old kid giving tips out of his parents basement on a crankbait that has been out 2 weeks isn't legit?

 

Allen

 

6 hours ago, reason said:

 

More legit than the 30 year old "unboxing" his monthly tackle delivery with a box of tissues and a bottle of lotion in the background...

I don't like either, but it's really easy for me to just not click on them and I don't have to watch them, problem solved. 

[gim]

29 minutes ago, Bluebasser86 said:

I don't like either, but it's really easy for me to just not click on them and I don't have to watch them, problem solved. 

 

Simple solution if you ask me.  Just don't watch it.

[fishwizzard]

I have a buddy who works in marketing and he was telling me that in general, the entire Youtube ad revenue model is going to collpase sooner rather then later.  He said that companies are not seeing the returns they were looking for and consequently are will to pay less and less to run ads.  There is also a huge issue with "bots" being used to generate page clicks and thus far Youtube has not responded in a way that is reassuring to advertisers.  He also said that the percentage of times on average ads are fully watched and not clicked through is in the low single digits.  

 

I think it comes down to companies wanting to pay less and have more control, which leaves Youtube with less revenue for themselves.  The big money makers are video game related content and even in that area the ad revenue is going down.  

 

I personaly watch very very few videos, mainly due to being really fussy about audio quality.  

[TOXIC]

There's a big difference between someone who can edit and relay relevant information via video and someone who puts up a home movie quality video.  The drive to be recognized in the sport of fishing has drawn a lot of negative connotations.  Boat Ownership, Tournament Fishing, Jersey wearing and on and on.  I give a lot of seminars and have never had the desire to YouTube or otherwise try to profit from passing on fishing knowledge.  But that's just me........

[punch]

I think it sucks that YouTube isn't paying content creators like they should in the fishing/hunting space. It's really not easy to put out as much content as these guys do.. grab a camera every day and see if you can fill up a channel and build a following. It's harder than it looks!

 

I do have a lot of respect for the young youtube fishing "stars" because they are trying to chase their dream of fishing for a job. Plus they are having a big impact bringing young people into the sport. A LOT of kids watch their channels and get excited about catching fish. You should see the crowds at their "meet up" events, it's all kids and teenagers. I wouldn't care at all if my children watched their channels because the enthusiasm that the youtubers have for the sport will spread and we'll get more and more kids out there hitting ponds and asking mom & dad to take them out on the lake.  

 

If they have to make their income by forming partnerships with companies to sell their product, so be it. Their hustle isn't much different than the life of the tournament pro's.