Braid digging into itself

[pondbassin101]

6 minutes ago, NHBull said:

He'll, I must be lucky because I am using 10, 15, 20, and 30 and have never had any digging in,

I set my drag on the slightly lighter, but that is it

 

Is y hat on baitcasters or spinning gear?

[MickD]

Not all braids are the same.  The digging in problem used to be a bigger problem than now because there were fewer "round" braids.  Braids used to be sort of flat and the edge would allow the braid to dig in.  I think there still are some flat braids.  From the comments some people can use just about any pound test, but they may be using round braids and fairly low drag settings.

I use round braids but I still keep my drags on the low side and generate more stopping power when needed with my thumb.  

 

It sounds like if you want a braid that will be fool proof with regard to this issue use a round 50 pound test braid.  But don't set your drag to its max torque; keep it where you would have it with lower pound tests.

[ChrisD46]

Fill 50% of your reel with #6lb. ~ #8lb. mono tight - then finish filling with braid tight ... **Only 4 or 5 wraps of mono for backing and then filling 99% with braid is your main issue !

[NHBull]

9 hours ago, pondbassin101 said:

 

Is y hat on baitcasters or spinning gear?

Baitcasters.....also 10 on spincasters

[pondbassin101]

5 hours ago, ChrisD46 said:

Fill 50% of your reel with #6lb. ~ #8lb. mono tight - then finish filling with braid tight ... **Only 4 or 5 wraps of mono for backing and then filling 99% with braid is your main issue !

 

Well I have a spool of cheap #12 mono, I don't want to spend extra money on backing.

[NHBull]

14 hours ago, ChrisD46 said:

Fill 50% of your reel with #6lb. ~ #8lb. mono tight - then finish filling with braid tight ... **Only 4 or 5 wraps of mono for backing and then filling 99% with braid is your main issue !

I am glad you pointed that out. I am only running 80 yards of braid.....the rest is filler

[pondbassin101]

15 hours ago, ChrisD46 said:

Fill 50% of your reel with #6lb. ~ #8lb. mono tight - then finish filling with braid tight ... **Only 4 or 5 wraps of mono for backing and then filling 99% with braid is your main issue !

 

Now that I think about this it makes perfect sense. Good braid is expensive, filling half your reel with mono means you can spool 2 reels instead of one, and you only really need about 50 yards of line youre actually gonna fish

[LxVE Bassin]

When I started using braid on my casting set ups I went with 30# braid and it would have its occasional "dig ins" while fishing. This year I switched to 40# braid and I have not had any problems with it diggin in. I recommend going no lower than 40# on casting set ups. I made use for my 30# braid for top shot backings and my catfish sets ups. 

[pondbassin101]

I'll keep this braid on the caster and I don't  really want to put it on a spinning reel because I was thinking of getting #15 or #20 braid for a spinning setup not #30. Guess my next braid purchase I'd going to #40 or 50. Unless I hooked a really big bass or get snagged up I think I should be fine with the current braid

[David Dionne]

I know this is ancient but this has happened to me many times.  I upgraded to 65# maxcuatro and it happened to me yesterday.  I didn’t lose the lure but it dug in pretty deep.

 

My question is, how do you clear it?  Or can you?  The previous times I just cut it out with an exacto knife after struggling for quite awhile...was a mess and lotsa lost line.

 

thx

[MN Fisher]

9 minutes ago, David Dionne said:

My question is, how do you clear it?

It takes patience, young padawan. You can't force it, you have to tease it out. Last time I had a deep dig-in backlash...I set the rod aside for the day, then spent over an hour at home clearing it.

 

Make sure there's good tension on the line when spooling it up - and I re-tension mine (pull it out to the connection to the backing and then reel it back in) every few trips. I've used down to 20# on my Pflueger President and rarely have a bad backlash.

[Sam]

On 5/26/2017 at 5:01 PM, Glenn said:

30# braid on a baitcaster is about as low as I would recommend, but it's manageable. 

 

Does your reel have magnetic brakes in addition to the spool tension knob? Usually the magnetic brake control is located on the opposite side of the handle.  If your reel has this, then I'd turn it up about 1/2 way for starters.  It will help slow down the spool near the end of the cast, which seems to be issue, given your description.

Glenn, maybe it is time for you to do one of your outstanding videos on how to set the magnets in a baitcaster.

 

Seems some guys have no idea they are there and then we have some guys who have no idea what to do with them or know how to set them.

 

Just a suggestion.

 

Happy Memorial Day!

[Glenn]

Actually I do mention how to adjust magnetic brakes in all my "how to" casting videos.  But I see what you're saying - make one that's JUST about magnetics.  Good thought!

[David Dionne]

I just ordered a tiny metal spatula like thing with rounded edges all the way around, maybe it can help me pick at the spool without damaging the line terribly, idk.  I thought about trying a toothpick but decided against that.  But I’ll set this reel aside for now.
 

Thx for the responses.

[waymont]

On 5/26/2017 at 6:07 PM, pondbassin101 said:

I stripped and respooled about 20 yards and it casts fine now unless I mess up. Still getting used to braid but it's alot smoother than mono

It's probable your first problem, with your lure breaking off was just a tangle, and not any issue with the braid digging.

You have to get used to using braid, but once the transition is complete you will love it.

You also may have over spooled your reel. That will also cause casting problems.

[CrankFate]

If this is a reel with a V like spool or a spool with rounded sides, this is more likely to happen. If the line is spooled loosely, it doesn’t lay flat enough and can roll over on itself when you spool it. If you spool it as tightly as possible, this doesn’t usually happen. This is a guess, though, because there are a lot of variables and it could still happen if you throw something too light for the rod or the reel settings or if you drop the rod tip quickly on the retrieve, because doing that can send slack into the spool. So can casting very light lures into the wind. I get this problem a lot when fishing fluorocarbon instead of with braid because of how I fish. Which is why I prefer braid.

[dodgeguy]

I've fished braid since about 1992. I've fished from 20lb to 80 on a baitcaster. I would never go below 50. That said I have never casted and snapped my braid in all those years even with 20lb. Something is severely wrong with the line or the setup. Throw that garbage out buy some 50lb Sufix 832 and then tell us what happens.

[Cgolf]

I have used braid for many years and never had any issues with it digging in. I always use mono backing and when I spool on the braid I use light pressure to spool it up and never had any issues. Not sure why you would spool it on super tight?

 

I use 30 lb 832 and 50lb power pro.

[OkobojiEagle]

5 hours ago, cgolf said:

Not sure why you would spool it on super tight?

It says to on the back of my man card.

 

 

[Cgolf]

5 minutes ago, OkobojiEagle said:

It says to on the back of my man card.

 

 

Huh? I just keep moderate pressure, roughly 14" bass fight pressure, and reel the line on. 

 

Trying to figure out what tight means? Is it lock down the drag and hold on to the line as tight as you can? Or somewhere inbetween. This was the first I ever heard of anything different than what I have done for years.