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Is the loop to loop connection ok to use to connect a mono leader to braided line or will the braid cut the mono? Can you suggest an easy knot to do this?

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I would not trust a loop connection.  An Alberto knot is my preferred connection knot.

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I like the Alberto for braid to fluoro and uni to uni for mono to fluoro.  The fg knot looks great but I'm not any good at it. Whichever you choose, just make sure you practice because they all work. It's just a matter of doing them correctly.

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In a 'true' loop-to-loop connection, passing one loop thru another loop offers the integrity of a square knot.

(Caveat, everything must fit thru the primary loop)

 

If you're joining two tag ends and worried about the braid severing the monofilament,

you can tie a 'doubled' uni-knot then use 8 wraps on the braid, 5 on the mono.

 

Roger

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Uni to uni for my spinning gear

 

fg for casting.

 

still can't get the crazy Alberto to be as dependable as the two above

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I use loop to loop on fly lines...don't think I'd trust one braid to mono...and with the knots used to create the loops likely being bigger than the FG or the Alberto...I don't see the attraction.

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I love the FG.  When I first started using the FG I had trouble tying it. The secret to the FG is the right amount of tension on the braid.  I couldn't keep the braid from slipping through my teeth half the time.  I found a small soft plastic key ring somewhere that is easy to hold in my teeth, I connect the braid to the key ring and drop the rod in a rod holder.  Problem solved, I can tie an FG while talking to someone.

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9 hours ago, Bucky205 said:

I love the FG.  When I first started using the FG I had trouble tying it. The secret to the FG is the right amount of tension on the braid.  I couldn't keep the braid from slipping through my teeth half the time.  I found a small soft plastic key ring somewhere that is easy to hold in my teeth, I connect the braid to the key ring and drop the rod in a rod holder.  Problem solved, I can tie an FG while talking to someone.

I clip it to my shirt ......it works better than teeth

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I like these tips for tying the FG.  I can tie a killer Alberto, but the FG eludes me.  I'm going to revisit that knot, and try some of the tips here.  I'd really like to have that knot in my toolbox.

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23 minutes ago, J Francho said:

I like these tips for tying the FG.  I can tie a killer Alberto, but the FG eludes me.  I'm going to revisit that knot, and try some of the tips here.  I'd really like to have that knot in my toolbox.

Me too because it looks like the best knot for passing through micro guides.

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I didn't like the double half hitch finish for the original FG; apparently it can come loose with slick braid and sometimes when I tightened them, it messed up my wraps. The rizzuto finish method has worked much better for me. This guy demonstrates it pretty well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5PFJefx3J0

 

 

I use this guy's method to do the wraps https://vimeo.com/161852666

 

I use 15-30lb braid + 20lb fluoro inshore no problems casting through micro guides.

 

 

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7 hours ago, HeavyTwenty said:

The rizzuto finish method has worked much better for me.

 

Of course a guy named NY Yankee is going to use the rizzuto finish...:D

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I like the question as is one I never thought about. I use short flouro leaders that never pass through the guides. My reason is abrasion resistance, not the "invisibility" of flouro.  Naturally I don't many re-ties. Generally these spinning setups are used for light hair jigs, finesse tubes and Ned's and I have a small file snap at the terminal end for quick bait changes. I love the idea of being able to have pre-tied leaders ready to loop on. Living on Erie and catching 100 Smallies a day this time of year should make this a quick experiment. 

 

BTW. I've tried snaps pre-tied to leader ready to affix to a tiny swivel at the end of my braid. Works great for 1/4 ounce jigs but hurts sensitivity on the really light stuff. 

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