KP Duty Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 My outing yesterday spurred this. My Concept AK (I named it this...it's an 'A' with all the kp parts), was really beating up my zillion, and I can't imagine one of my steez's beating it either. Closest thing to my ak would be an old burgundy scorpion 100a or a tdz 105 I used to own. I believe the kp spool is a 10.5 grammer. Has some crazy 0-60 times. I'm thinking it's the btakes. Some pics. This is my newly discovered 'spirit lake'....a pond full of 12-14" bass for testing and lots of ticks. The best backlash I could muster with brakes on 2 Had a newbie...she's one of my roommates and 'she would love to catch a bass'. So come on! Unfortunately, the slider didn't produce a bass for her.....I apologized and let her know she may be the first person on earth to not get bit on a slider. Here's the ak.... No big ones here....we've got a max depth of 3 feet. Seems to paralyze them. If you would prefer to get laid instead of catching bass...we offer that here... 1 Quote
KP Duty Posted May 16, 2017 Author Posted May 16, 2017 This pond is at admiral and 14t5h oklahoma mike. I'll just tell you before you pm me. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted May 16, 2017 Super User Posted May 16, 2017 I was expecting to read some kind of question. I will say that you are no where near the caster I am if that is the best backlash you could accomplish. Also I'd like to mention that a sheet goes a long way with some girls. 3 Quote
Josh Smith Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 You're a bit odd, but that's ok. Centrifugal brakes work at the start of the cast while magnetic brakes help taper the cast of toward the end. Most of us "old timers" use our thumbs for that. However, I do have a reel or two with both and I like to use those on windy days. Regards, Josh 1 Quote
KP Duty Posted May 16, 2017 Author Posted May 16, 2017 I am a bit odd I suppose, maybe it makes me more memorable. I appreciate the insight on the brakes. Some people are mechanically inclined and I'm not one of them. 42 minutes ago, new2BC4bass said: I was expecting to read some kind of question. I will say that you are no where near the caster I am if that is the best backlash you could accomplish. Also I'd like to mention that a sheet goes a long way with some girls. That zillion minor backlash wasn't unthimbed...I could do better. Quote
dsqui Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 That zillion is S/V so it should be air brake not magnetic Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted May 16, 2017 Super User Posted May 16, 2017 16 minutes ago, dsqui said: That zillion is S/V so it should be air brake not magnetic Air brake is just a term for the inductor on the spool. It's still a magnetic braking system. 1 Quote
KP Duty Posted May 16, 2017 Author Posted May 16, 2017 30 minutes ago, rippin-lips said: Air brake is just a term for the inductor on the spool. It's still a magnetic braking system. How's that zillion 12 gram spool working in your 103's? Hope they are doing well. See...my ex wife said I didn't listen ..I beg to differ. Quote
dsqui Posted May 16, 2017 Posted May 16, 2017 But it's still different from there standard magnetic brake no 3 hours ago, rippin-lips said: Air brake is just a term for the inductor on the spool. It's still a magnetic braking system. Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted May 16, 2017 Super User Posted May 16, 2017 Good stuff! Always nice to see a new angler exposed to fishing. Send your thumb to school so you can get it educated! 1 Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted May 17, 2017 Super User Posted May 17, 2017 5 hours ago, dsqui said: But it's still different from there standard magnetic brake no No, the inductor extends into the magnetic ring on the non handle side plate when you make a cast and the spool is spinning. How far depends on how high you set the mag dial. As the spool slows down the inductor retracts back down. The sv spools or 'air' brake has an inductor that extends in/out but also twists about 1/4". Sv spools also have a fairly weak inductor spring and that allows the braking to engage very easily or 'air' brake as they call it. That's why they're so controlled and don't backlash easily. Swapping out to a stiffer spring makes it take more force to activate the brake rotor and makes the spool a bit less controlled but you gain some distance. The non sv spool inductor just extends in/out. The type r+ inductor and spring is commonly swapped onto other non sv spools. Again, you lose a bit of control but gain some distance. 1 Quote
dsqui Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 Hmm thanks for the know how I'm still new to all the daiwa spools not very knowledgeable on it 4 hours ago, rippin-lips said: No, the inductor extends into the magnetic ring on the non handle side plate when you make a cast and the spool is spinning. How far depends on how high you set the mag dial. As the spool slows down the inductor retracts back down. The sv spools or 'air' brake has an inductor that extends in/out but also twists about 1/4". Sv spools also have a fairly weak inductor spring and that allows the braking to engage very easily or 'air' brake as they call it. That's why they're so controlled and don't backlash easily. Swapping out to a stiffer spring makes it take more force to activate the brake rotor and makes the spool a bit less controlled but you gain some distance. The non sv spool inductor just extends in/out. The type r+ inductor and spring is commonly swapped onto other non sv spools. Again, you lose a bit of control but gain some distance. Quote
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