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Hey guys sorry to make another one of these threads but I'm just getting back into bass fishing after a 15yr+ hiatus and would like some advice on rod and reel setups.

 

I was able to get a good deal on some rods and reels from my cousin who stopped fishing and he sold me these two setups cheap:

 

Spinning Finesse Setup:

 

St. Croix Premier 7' Medium Light Fast Action Spinning Rod with a Pflueger President 6930  -  I really enjoy using this setup and have been using this for drop shotting and weightless Senkos since we have very skittish bass in Southern California so I end up drop shotting quite often.

 

Baitcast Setup:

 

Daiwa Tatula 7'1" Medium Heavy X-Fast casting rod with a Daiwa Tatula CT 6.3:1 Ratio - I assume this setup can be my all around setup but from what I gather this casting rod is more suited for Jigging and Texas Rigging Worms?  I haven't really used this setup that much as I've just been using my spinning setup. 

 

If I were to pick up another casting rod and reel, what should I purchase next?  I keep hearing great things about Dobyn's Fury rods and I do like how the Tatula CT feels in my hands.  Maybe buy another Tatula CT in a different gear ratio?

 

 

 

 

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You are correct about the X-Fast being better suited for jigs and t-rigs. It should also be good for just about any single hook application.

 

As for another combo. You seem to be set on the CT in another gear ratio, you're on the right track here as well. I think a good idea would be a CT in 8.1 ratio and pair this reel with your existing rod. The extra IPT will be a good idea for this combo.

 

I would then use the current 6.3 and pair it with a rod more suited to moving baits, maybe a  mod-fast action. This will give you a good start to cover just about anything you need.

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1 hour ago, LuckyHandsINC. said:

You are correct about the X-Fast being better suited for jigs and t-rigs. It should also be good for just about any single hook application.

 

As for another combo. You seem to be set on the CT in another gear ratio, you're on the right track here as well. I think a good idea would be a CT in 8.1 ratio and pair this reel with your existing rod. The extra IPT will be a good idea for this combo.

 

I would then use the current 6.3 and pair it with a rod more suited to moving baits, maybe a  mod-fast action. This will give you a good start to cover just about anything you need.

X2, you should get a moderate rod for treble hooks.  This would cover most situations with these 3 rods.  Once you start to get into, while you regain experience you will start learning the power actions you like for each technique.

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The Dobyns Fury rods are very nice and fish more like a $200 rod instead of a $110.

A good choice for throwing treble baits like crankbaits, rattle traps, topwaters and jerkbaits would be a Dobyns Fury 705CB.

You could follow the earlier suggestion and purchase another Tatula CT.  

I fish a total of 7 Daiwas, mostly original Tatulas and Tatula CTs and love them.  My personal choice would be a 7.3-1 and like others have said put it on your Tatula rod. 

This would make your arsenal very versatile.

 

I know you said you have not used the Tatula combo much yet. I highly recommend you give it a try with some of the following baits that work most everywhere.

Try throwing a swim jig like a Dirty Jigs California style, or a Dirty Jigs Finesse style, it does not matter that much I like all of their products. Pick a color like one of the bluegills, shads or perch colors. I like to use a Kalin 5 inch grub but many like to use a swimbait like a Keitech as a trailer. These jigs in say 3/8 + a trailer will cast easy and catch a lot of fish.  

That rig is terrific for throwing texas rigs.  You should be able to fish a lot of the finesse style worms  and creature baits on a jig head like this one. It is a shakeyhead jig head made by Megastrike

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I would throw the 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 ounce heads and plenty of worms,creature baits and craws can be used on this setup.

These are just a few ideas. This bug here is a Megastrike Mega Bug which is made by the same company as the jig head. It is just one bait I use on these jig heads.

 

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I really appreciate all the advice guys! That really helps clear up things and narrows it down.  Sounds like I'll be picking up a Dobyns Fury 705CB and another Tatula CT!

 

2 hours ago, fishnkamp said:

The Dobyns Fury rods are very nice and fish more like a $200 rod instead of a $110.

A good choice for throwing treble baits like crankbaits, rattle traps, topwaters and jerkbaits would be a Dobyns Fury 705CB.

You could follow the earlier suggestion and purchase another Tatula CT.  

I fish a total of 7 Daiwas, mostly original Tatulas and Tatula CTs and love them.  My personal choice would be a 7.3-1 and like others have said put it on your Tatula rod. 

This would make your arsenal very versatile.

 

I know you said you have not used the Tatula combo much yet. I highly recommend you give it a try with some of the following baits that work most everywhere.

Try throwing a swim jig like a Dirty Jigs California style, or a Dirty Jigs Finesse style, it does not matter that much I like all of their products. Pick a color like one of the bluegills, shads or perch colors. I like to use a Kalin 5 inch grub but many like to use a swimbait like a Keitech as a trailer. These jigs in say 3/8 + a trailer will cast easy and catch a lot of fish.  

That rig is terrific for throwing texas rigs.  You should be able to fish a lot of the finesse style worms  and creature baits on a jig head like this one. It is a shakeyhead jig head made by Megastrike

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I would throw the 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 ounce heads and plenty of worms,creature baits and craws can be used on this setup.

These are just a few ideas. This bug here is a Megastrike Mega Bug which is made by the same company as the jig head. It is just one bait I use on these jig heads.

 

 

Thanks for that.  I really do want to expand my techniques and tackle choices.  I heard good things about the Dirty Jigs swim & finesse jigs.

 

I did throw a keitech fat swing impact 4.8 on my tatula rod and reel setup and got a few bites.  When I tried to drop shot with it I definitely noticed I couldn't feel the bottom as well my St Croix spinning finesse setup so I just switched back to that.  I'll try texas rigging and jigging with my tatula setup next time I'm out. 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Fishin' Fool said:

I'll second the Fury 705cb.  I was throwing it on Saturday.  What a great lite CB rod!

 

 

I've been hearing so many good things about the Dobyn's Fury line.  What would the natural progression be after getting the 705CB rod?  A Dobyn's Fury Flipping/Pitching rod?

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Okay lets go over a few things. Baits like the Keitech and Reaction Innovation Skinny dippers will fish best on your spinning rod either unweighted using a swimbait hook or belly weighted with one of these hooks. The third is a swimbait jig head and can weigh up to 1 oz or more. I like the 3/8  and 1/2.  Those will fish well on your MH baitcaster.

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When I mentioned the swimjig with a Kalin grub or Reitech I meant using them together in your mh rod, like this.

 

... Swim Jig with Kalin's Grub allterraintackle.com , unclejosh.com/Kalinsth?id=OIP.CghzLLmsbsDA9TogrcnZvwEsDh&pid=15.1&P=0&w=229&h=173

 

As for other rods to add it depends on your body of water. I think you might want a medium spinning rod, or you could go for a heavier baitcaster.  Does the water you fish in have heavy vegetation, matted grass, lily pads?  If so maybe a 735C for frogs or the 765 Flip for more serious flipping and pitching.  The 735 will do both but if you have enough flipping conditions the longer flipping rod is better.  I fish many rods that are similar in order toi fish different baits and not need to retie.

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5 hours ago, MTPanda said:

 

 

I've been hearing so many good things about the Dobyn's Fury line.  What would the natural progression be after getting the 705CB rod?  A Dobyn's Fury Flipping/Pitching rod?

 

I don't have a lot of sparse cover where I fish here in Michigan. I could probably get away with a Fury 734 as a flipping rod.

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5 hours ago, fishnkamp said:

Okay lets go over a few things. Baits like the Keitech and Reaction Innovation Skinny dippers will fish best on your spinning rod either unweighted using a swimbait hook or belly weighted with one of these hooks. The third is a swimbait jig head and can weigh up to 2 oz or more. I like the 3/8  and 1/2.  Those will fish well on your MH baitcaster.

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When I mentioned the swimjig with a Kalin grub or Reitech I meant using them together in your mh rod, like this.

 

... Swim Jig with Kalin's Grub allterraintackle.com , unclejosh.com/Kalinsth?id=OIP.CghzLLmsbsDA9TogrcnZvwEsDh&pid=15.1&P=0&w=229&h=173

 

As for other rods to add it depends on your body of water. I think you might want a medium spinning rod, or you could go for a heavier baitcaster.  Does the water you fish in have heavy vegetation, matted grass, lily pads?  If so maybe a 735C for frogs or the 765 Flip for more serious flipping and pitching.  The 735 will do both but if you have enough flipping conditions the longer flipping rod is better.  I fish many rods that are similar in order toi fish different baits and not need to retie.

 

Ah ok gotcha.  Thanks again this is very useful information.

32 minutes ago, Fishin' Fool said:

 

I don't have a lot of sparse cover where I fish here in Michigan. I could probably get away with a Fury 734 as a flipping rod.

 

I THINK certain lakes here in So Cal can have heavy cover? I'm not entirely sure as I have not visited most of the lakes but I plan to soon!  I may have to go with a 735 later. 

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On 5/15/2017 at 2:47 AM, MTPanda said:

If I were to pick up another casting rod and reel, what should I purchase next?  I keep hearing great things about Dobyn's Fury rods and I do like how the Tatula CT feels in my hands.

 

 

If it were me, a Dobyns Fury rod and a Shimano reel

 

Roger

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I don't have any Dobyns rods experience, but I do

have St. Croix Premier, Avid, and Legend Tournament

experience. I love St. Croix ML power rods, but most

Croix I've fished tend to be a *tad* tip-heavy. That

does not diminish their quality. My most recent is a

6' Premiere ML spinning rod paired with a Stradic CI4+

and it is fantastic. I actually upgraded my Avid MXF

to a Legend Tournament Walleye 6'3" MLXF (same as

bass rods, but offered in more lengths) and love it as

well.

 

On casting, I use(d) a discontinued Field & Stream 6' MF

rod, which my 2nd son has decided is his fav rod. It 

was mine before he decided it was his. Then I have two

BPS Carbonlites, a black 6'6" ML and white 6'6" MH, both

of which excel at their respective duties.

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18 hours ago, Darren. said:

I don't have any Dobyns rods experience, but I do

have St. Croix Premier, Avid, and Legend Tournament

experience. I love St. Croix ML power rods, but most

Croix I've fished tend to be a *tad* tip-heavy. That

does not diminish their quality. My most recent is a

6' Premiere ML spinning rod paired with a Stradic CI4+

and it is fantastic. I actually upgraded my Avid MXF

to a Legend Tournament Walleye 6'3" MLXF (same as

bass rods, but offered in more lengths) and love it as

well.

 

On casting, I use(d) a discontinued Field & Stream 6' MF

rod, which my 2nd son has decided is his fav rod. It 

was mine before he decided it was his. Then I have two

BPS Carbonlites, a black 6'6" ML and white 6'6" MH, both

of which excel at their respective duties.

 

I really do like my St Croix Premier Spinning rod.  It's very light and sensitive when I fish finesse and drop shot but at around the $109 price point I do want to try the Dobyn's Fury line. 

 

I was playing with the Carbonlites at BPS a few weeks ago and they felt nice in the hands too.  Definitely a worthy choice at under $100.

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3 minutes ago, MTPanda said:

 

I really do like my St Croix Premier Spinning rod.  It's very light and sensitive when I fish finesse and drop shot but at around the $109 price point I do want to try the Dobyn's Fury line. 

 

I was playing with the Carbonlites at BPS a few weeks ago and they felt nice in the hands too.  Definitely a worthy choice at under $100.

 

So many quality rods at the $100 +/- price point.

I ruled out many just by handling in-store as they

just didn't feel right in *my* hands.

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On 5/16/2017 at 2:26 PM, Darren. said:

 

So many quality rods at the $100 +/- price point.

I ruled out many just by handling in-store as they

just didn't feel right in *my* hands.

 

Definitely true.  Makes it so hard to decide and I want to try em all!

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On 5/15/2017 at 1:47 AM, MTPanda said:

Baitcast Setup:

 

Daiwa Tatula 7'1" Medium Heavy X-Fast casting rod with a Daiwa Tatula CT 6.3:1 Ratio - I assume this setup can be my all around setup but from what I gather this casting rod is more suited for Jigging and Texas Rigging Worms?  I haven't really used this setup that much as I've just been using my spinning setup. 

 

If I were to pick up another casting rod and reel, what should I purchase next?  I keep hearing great things about Dobyn's Fury rods and I do like how the Tatula CT feels in my hands.  Maybe buy another Tatula CT in a different gear ratio?

 

 

Doesn't say what ya using it for?

 

If ya like the feel of the Tatula get another one!

 

Rod! Personal preference! I could list ya 20 ;)

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