ib_of_the_damned Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 So I recently got the Powell Max 3D 723 as an all purpose rod, I took it out the other day using 12lb Sniper and I can safely say that this is probably one of the most sensitive rods that I own! I was just hitting up the local city park lake with a Seibert Dredge Brush jig and a Rage Tail Craw trailer (one rod, one jig) to get a feel for the rod. Needless to say, I was feeling the bottom composition of the lake, weeds, sticks, rocks, etc. and was amazed at the sensitivity! I ended up getting bit while working the jig around a small rock pile and felt the bass thump the jig (it actually felt like it was chewing it...) I went to set the hook and started to reel him in and his head popped out of the water and my jig came unbuttoned (probably my fault for not setting the hook hard enough)... But it felt like a good fish and it was pulling drag. I was upset that I lost the fish, but was also in awe of how sensitive the rod was. Sorry, I had to tell a little story to set up my question... What would be a good all purpose line that I could use with this rod? I will be throwing jigs, flukes, T-rigs, weightless soft plastics, traps, and the occasional top water. I normally use Sunline Sniper 12-14lb but for top water I know fluoro is not recommended. I appreciate all the suggestions you guys may have. Quote
hunterPRO1 Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 the only advantage of flouro is visibility that i know of, mono will work for anything, ive used it for everything from dropshot to punching/frogging, are there better lines for some techniques ? sure, but for all around, mono cant be beat. personally i like stren. 4 Quote
ib_of_the_damned Posted May 10, 2017 Author Posted May 10, 2017 Braid + leader I have other setups with braid and leader, I want to avoid that with this rod. But I do get it, it would be the most versatile. I could run a fluoro, copoly, mono leader and it would suit whatever I throw. Like I said, I would rather avoid that with this setup. Maybe just straight copoly? I do like Yo Zuri Hybrid, but I use it with reaction baits. I'm not sure if the sensitivity is there as opposed to fluoro. Quote
sully420 Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 Stick with the sniper in 12# only drawback is topwater 2 Quote
Super User RoLo Posted May 10, 2017 Super User Posted May 10, 2017 I have other setups with braid and leader. Have you tried braided line with no leader? Roger 3 Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted May 10, 2017 Super User Posted May 10, 2017 Original Stren mono and some KVD Line and Lure. Works awesome, plenty strong and not much memory. 1 Quote
ib_of_the_damned Posted May 10, 2017 Author Posted May 10, 2017 Have you tried braided line with no leader? Roger I have, but I only fish city park lakes which get quite a bit of pressure and I feel that straight braid would be a deterrent to the bass. Quote
bigfruits Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 Yo Zuri is a great line for the price. Probably not the best line for jigs sensitivity wise. Defier is great for topwater but not sure how it does in the sensitivity dept. Armilo might be worth a try. Just spooled up a reel but havent used it. Id buy an extra spool for topwater but it would be a pain to switch on the water. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted May 10, 2017 Super User Posted May 10, 2017 I have, but I only fish city park lakes which get quite a bit of pressure and I feel that straight braid would be a deterrent to the bass. It's possible you feel that way, only because you hear it all the time. Straight braid is all I use, so I'm not aware of what I might be missing Roger 3 Quote
Cgrinder Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 Probably do alright with something like CXX. Or bring another rod/reel, reel, or spare spool with mono for topwater. Or just fish poppers with fluoro, which is interesting. You get some mighty good bloops out of a lure that way. Quote
Yudo1 Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 I'd go with braid and leader. It just fits all of the techniques you mentioned and the leader will help if you're worried about spooking the fish. Quote
CroakHunter Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 X2 on the cxx. I am a braid type of guy but I also like cxx for an all purpose line. Shop by diameter not by lb test. Or have just a backup reel spoiled with mono or braid for topwater. A reel is much easier to carry than a whole other combo Quote
Super User NHBull Posted May 10, 2017 Super User Posted May 10, 2017 It's possible you feel that way, only because you hear it all the time. Straight braid is all I use, so I'm not aware of what I might be missing Roger Not to hijack your thread and it could impact your decision......Roger, do you blacken the last few feet of the braid with a marker, or just run it as is. Additionally, what brought you to the all braid world? I ask, because I find myself wanting to go there........Thanks, Al Quote
Dens228 Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 I use braid for topwater and just switched from mono to a lighter braid for everything else. I don't use a leader. I can tell you that with the braid I'm able to feel everything so much better. After reading about ripping the hooks from fish with braid/trebles I can say I haven't experienced that at all. I do sweep the set with braid rather than just rip the set. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted May 10, 2017 Super User Posted May 10, 2017 I only use braid for slop. Otherwise I am a mono/co-polymer guy. 12# is my MH rod line of choice. I like AN40, Siege, Big Game and am trying some XXX. There are plenty of other good mono/co-polymer/hybrid lines....CXX, Platinum, Yo-Zuri, McCoy, etc. Pick your poison. Quote
Super User Raul Posted May 10, 2017 Super User Posted May 10, 2017 When in doubt... 12 or 15lb big game Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted May 10, 2017 Global Moderator Posted May 10, 2017 Stick with the sniper in 12# only drawback is topwater Ditto Mike Quote
Super User NHBull Posted May 10, 2017 Super User Posted May 10, 2017 It's possible you feel that way, only because you hear it all the time. Straight braid is all I use, so I'm not aware of what I might be missing Roger Not to hijack your thread and it could impact your decision......Roger, do you blacken the last few feet of the braid with a marker, or just run it as is. Additionally, what brought you to the all braid world? I ask, because I find myself wanting to go there........Thanks, Al Quote
Kidflex Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 stick with what you got. You said occasional topwater. I wouldn't go through the trouble of switching to an inferior line to work a presentation that you hardly use. Worse case just work your rod tip up when working topwaters. It'll help with the line sinking and effecting your bait. 1 Quote
Super User RoLo Posted May 10, 2017 Super User Posted May 10, 2017 4 hours ago, NHBull said: Not to hijack your thread and it could impact your decision......Roger, do you blacken the last few feet of the braid with a marker, or just run it as is. Additionally, what brought you to the all braid world? I ask, because I find myself wanting to go there........Thanks, Al Though I've made jokes about that in the past, No, I've never tried coloring braided line: 1) Even if I did believe it mattered, there's a good chance that streaking the line can make it more visible. For instance, I used Berkley Tracer Braid for years (no leader), which switches back-and-forth every 30" between bright green & dark green to make the braid MORE visible to the angler. 2) More importantly, I've never been convinced that the sight of fishing line is a deal-breaker. To use the A-rig analogy, bass accept my fiber weedguards, rattleboxes, gaudy treble hooks, and buzzbaits, so why not my line (Bill Dance: "A buzzbait imitates a toy airboat"). On the other hand, I do believe that 'line diameter' rather than line visibility can make a difference in crystal-clear water and with pressured or negative fish. Moving to lower pound-test line reduces the line diameter which reduces water pressure, where the end product is a more natural delivery. Braid offers a smaller line diameter, but ironically, fluorocarbon is a line with greater diameter and greater water resistance. Roger 2 Quote
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