Adleyfishes Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 Ok I have a Lews Speed spool Lazer Mg. I fished it two years. now when I reel in the line guide stays on one side and causes a mess. I believe it's a wornout pawl but im not sure. I want to replace it my self. Are all pawls interchangeable and where can I learn how to do this? Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted May 9, 2017 Super User Posted May 9, 2017 You will need to contact Lews for the parts most likely. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 9, 2017 Super User Posted May 9, 2017 The parts are usually model specific. The Pawl itself is pretty easy to change, but you generally want to change out the pawl and worm gear together. It's not a job for a rookie, for sure. You might want to contact Lew's or Delaware Valley Tackle (link is in the sponsor sites on the right). 2 Quote
crypt Posted May 9, 2017 Posted May 9, 2017 The parts are usually model specific. The Pawl itself is pretty easy to change, but you generally want to change out the pawl and worm gear together. It's not a job for a rookie, for sure. You might want to contact Lew's or Delaware Valley Tackle (link is in the sponsor sites on the right). this........... Quote
Adleyfishes Posted May 9, 2017 Author Posted May 9, 2017 Would It be easier just to purchase a new reel its pretty beaten up anyways. Quote
Super User MickD Posted May 10, 2017 Super User Posted May 10, 2017 I doubt very much if you need a new reel. Do as suggested and service the pawl and worm. Because the worm wore out prematurely, it indicates you are not paying much if any attention to maintaining the reel. I would send it to DVT and have him bring it up to snuff, then when you get it back, put a few drops of oil now and then onto the worm and pawl (this is the most demanding area of the reel for lube, and I do it probably 3-4 times a season) , the reel grips, and into the reel on the bearings and other moving parts. I should have mentioned that the pawl can stop working properly if the screw on the pawl housing has backed off a little. The pawl loses engagement. Be sure that is not the problem. If it is, you may not even need a new pawl/worm. I also would like to mention that a properly maintained quality reel will last a lifetime. I have a Calcutta 150 that is about 20 years old and it works as well now as the day it was born. Try to keep them as clean as you can, don't bounce them around banging into things, avoid submerging them, don't let ANY sand get to them, and lube them regularly but not excessively. Your kids will enjoy using the reels that dad used. (Unless they become obsolete, then they can put them into display boxes in their offices.) 1 Quote
Adleyfishes Posted May 10, 2017 Author Posted May 10, 2017 I doubt very much if you need a new reel. Do as suggested and service the pawl and worm. Because the worm wore out prematurely, it indicates you are not paying much if any attention to maintaining the reel. I would send it to DVT and have him bring it up to snuff, then when you get it back, put a few drops of oil now and then onto the worm and pawl (this is the most demanding area of the reel for lube, and I do it probably 3-4 times a season) , the reel grips, and into the reel on the bearings and other moving parts. How can I learn how to properly maintain my reel thanks for the help. I just didn't know if it was worth it to fix it if I wanted to upgrade my reel soon. I know a guy who is going to sell some revos for cheap soon. Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted May 10, 2017 Super User Posted May 10, 2017 The parts are usually model specific. The Pawl itself is pretty easy to change, but you generally want to change out the pawl and worm gear together. It's not a job for a rookie, for sure. You might want to contact Lew's or Delaware Valley Tackle (link is in the sponsor sites on the right). This, you could change the pawl itself in about a minute, but to change the worm gear requires a major strip down of the reel which you may not be comfortable doing. If you are comfortable servicing reels definitely give Lew's a call and tell them you need to replace the two parts. I wouldn't be surprised if they give the to you for free, they gave me the whole assembly for the magnetic brakes on my LFS free of charge when I called last year, I believe I even told them it was my fault that the part broke. 1 Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted May 10, 2017 Posted May 10, 2017 On some reels the nose piece blocks the pawl cap so you may have to open the reel to even do that. Service is <$20 for members. Shipping and parts are extra. There are videos on you tube etc but take each with a grain of salt. Trial and error are a big part of learning reels. Quote
Super User JustJames Posted May 10, 2017 Super User Posted May 10, 2017 This, you could change the pawl itself in about a minute, but to change the worm gear requires a major strip down of the reel which you may not be comfortable doing. If you are comfortable servicing reels definitely give Lew's a call and tell them you need to replace the two parts. I wouldn't be surprised if they give the to you for free, they gave me the whole assembly for the magnetic brakes on my LFS free of charge when I called last year, I believe I even told them it was my fault that the part broke. The only hard part I can see from servicing wormgear is to remove those two tiny lock clip (E clip?) unless you have specific tool for it. Last time I did this the clip flew away even though I was very careful, took me almost an hour to find it plus another 10 mins to put it back. I hate those tiny clip. Quote
Super User MassYak85 Posted May 10, 2017 Super User Posted May 10, 2017 The only hard part I can see from servicing wormgear is to remove those two tiny lock clip (E clip?) unless you have specific tool for it. Last time I did this the clip flew away even though I was very careful, took me almost an hour to find it plus another 10 mins to put it back. I hate those tiny clip. They're the worst aren't they? The only thing worse is that tiny tiny TINY little spring and pin that is used for the clicker drags on some reels. First time I saw it I thought it was a metal shaving not an actual part. Quote
Super User JustJames Posted May 10, 2017 Super User Posted May 10, 2017 They're the worst aren't they? The only thing worse is that tiny tiny TINY little spring and pin that is used for the clicker drags on some reels. First time I saw it I thought it was a metal shaving not an actual part. Oh I got that one too, I believe it was curado 100D or Okuma Helios and that the first time I service a reel with clicking drag. In order to get to wormgear, you will have to remove all these, left side plate, spool, handle, drag and washers to remove right side plate. After that just simple two screw for front (nose). Make sure you organize whatever parts in order so you can put in back accordingly, better yet take picture of every step start from handle. Pay very attention to washer from main shaft it supposed to be either () or )(. It is not difficult but easy to mess up as well. Good luck, if you don't know what you are doing send to pro. DVT is good reliable with reasonable price. since you have this reel only 2 years and already have problem with pawl and worm gear, it means you have not service it regularly (lube or heavy oil). It might be a good time to have DVT service/tune up the reel for you at the same time. 1 Quote
Global Moderator 12poundbass Posted May 10, 2017 Global Moderator Posted May 10, 2017 How can I learn how to properly maintain my reel thanks for the help. I just didn't know if it was worth it to fix it if I wanted to upgrade my reel soon. I know a guy who is going to sell some revos for cheap soon. You can't have too many reels. Fix it. 1 Quote
Adleyfishes Posted May 11, 2017 Author Posted May 11, 2017 23 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said: On some reels the nose piece blocks the pawl cap so you may have to open the reel to even do that. Service is <$20 for members. Shipping and parts are extra. There are videos on you tube etc but take each with a grain of salt. Trial and error are a big part of learning reels. Ok my dad just took my reel and there's a flathead screwdriver slot near the shaft he tightened it and i know longer have a problem is that a permanent or temporary fix? Quote
Super User JustJames Posted May 11, 2017 Super User Posted May 11, 2017 It might, try it for a while if happen again then replaced the wormgear and pawl. While you at i you can check worm gear if any grease in there, add if needed. Quote
Fisher-O-men Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 On 5/9/2017 at 1:19 PM, Adleyfishes said: Would It be easier just to purchase a new reel its pretty beaten up anyways. Yes, this would, no doubt, be easier! Quote
Damn Yankee Posted May 11, 2017 Posted May 11, 2017 Spend some time with Dad. I'm sure He has more to teach you. 2 Quote
Adleyfishes Posted May 11, 2017 Author Posted May 11, 2017 Just now, d**n Yankee said: Spend some time with Dad. I'm sure He has more to teach you. He sure does love him. But he didn't know how to cast a baitcaster till last year. I think its his logic that I'm missing... lol Quote
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