HeavyTwenty Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 I've read that boats equipped with a single power pole will spin in the wind. Is the same true for kayaks? Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 8 hours ago, HeavyTwenty said: I've read that boats equipped with a single power pole will spin in the wind. Is the same true for kayaks? I don't have one but with my limited knowledge of physics I'd say it's very likely it's going to spin depending on the wind and the type of soil the pole is sunk into. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 3, 2017 Super User Posted May 3, 2017 You don't spin, you end up turning into the wind. In order to spin, you'd have to have spinning wind. My buddy has one on his ATAK 140, and it's a game changer. Wish I could afford one. Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 1 hour ago, J Francho said: You don't spin, you end up turning into the wind. In order to spin, you'd have to have spinning wind. My buddy has one on his ATAK 140, and it's a game changer. Wish I could afford one. Do you use a stake out pole at all? I just use an 8 foot fiberglass garden stake and it helps a ton. Bought it on Amazon for under $20. 1 Quote
HeavyTwenty Posted May 3, 2017 Author Posted May 3, 2017 I just put together a 8 ft fiberglass pole. It works, but I need an anchor trolley to prevent the wind rotating. I've been postponing installing an anchor trolley because I was considering a pedal kayak upgrade. Still, unsecuring the pole, pushing the pole into the ground, removing the pole from the ground, and then resecuring it on the kayak, repeating every 5-10 casts just feels tedious. A power pole on a standable kayak could be an answer to the wind rotation. Quote
Dorado Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 YakAttack makes a model, with the purchase of an extension, to use a stakeout pole in depths up to 12'! https://www.yakattack.us/parknpole-link/ Pricey. My buddy in Texas swears by his YakAttack pole and I'm personally getting tired of messing with an anchor myself. Now that's a tedious process and an art to position yourself accurately with wind in the equation. Food for thought Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 3, 2017 Super User Posted May 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said: Do you use a stake out pole at all? I just use an 8 foot fiberglass garden stake and it helps a ton. Bought it on Amazon for under $20. Yes, in conjunction with a short line and my anchor trolley. I've fished with guys that have the Micro, too. Quote
Super User Montanaro Posted May 3, 2017 Super User Posted May 3, 2017 I've a trolley and 9 foot pole...love it. Want a micro anchor and yes the wind will rotate you...just have to set up with the wind in mind. Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 35 minutes ago, J Francho said: Rotate, not spin They're the same thing. They are synonyms of each other. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted May 3, 2017 Super User Posted May 3, 2017 By any name, the free-end will always be facing downwind If the winds aren't variable, there'll be little or no pivoting. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 3, 2017 Super User Posted May 3, 2017 49 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: They're the same thing. They are synonyms of each other. Thanks. You rotate or spin into the win. Though "spinning" suggests an never ending rotation. That isn't true. Like was said, you will orient into the wind, depending on where you stake out from. It's the same with an anchor. But you don't spin in circles. Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 2 hours ago, J Francho said: Thanks. You rotate or spin into the win. Though "spinning" suggests an never ending rotation. That isn't true. Like was said, you will orient into the wind, depending on where you stake out from. It's the same with an anchor. But you don't spin in circles. Correct. A better way to think about it is comparing it to a flag in the wind. One end is stationary while the other goes in the direction of the wind. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted May 3, 2017 Super User Posted May 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Correct. A better way to think about it is comparing it to a flag in the wind. One end is stationary while the other goes in the direction of the wind. Yeah well, that's a pretty tough concept to grasp Quote
Super User Darren. Posted May 3, 2017 Super User Posted May 3, 2017 For me, my Stik-It Anchor Pin is the ticket for shallow locales. However, being motorized, I don't worry about anchoring or staking out as often. I like the Micro except that I want to fold it against the boat when I need to go under stuff, or am in windy conditions near low hanging tree branches and so on. Unless I'm mistaken, that's not possible? But that's me, I lay my rods out in front of me most of the time, to keep out of breaking and tangling in trees, under bridges, and so on. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 3, 2017 Super User Posted May 3, 2017 Some of you guys like to get caught up in semantics. I prefer to help people learn to fish. Sheesh. I hope the OP got the answers he was looking for. More tips, if you use a lead to the stake out (if that's the route you choose) and feed it through the anchor trolley you have more control of what angle your craft settles at. Same goes when using your anchor in deeper water. Quote
Leftymuk Posted June 13, 2017 Posted June 13, 2017 The micro has a quick release you can pull to tip it down for going under stuff Quote
charliepff Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Hello Everyone, I have a Bernies River Stick. It works like the mini power pole but instead of power, you raise it with a rope manually. It works very well. It is made in York County, PA and they pretty much mount to every kayak out there. Let me know if you have any questions about it let me know. I have mine on a Coosa HD. https://www.berniesriverstick.com/about 1 Quote
Marko Berg Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 Is this due to the pole rotating in the dirt or in the actual power pole unit box? Quote
michaelb Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 I have a stake out pole and I have a kayak. I have tried to use it but can't get any purchase on the bottom enough to make any difference. Maybe this is user error; maybe this the condition of the bottom of the lake. I do wonder if the powered poles push down with enough force to hold a kayak no matter what. But at least for a me, a pole that just slides to the bottom, or that I push down as hard as I can push down, doesn't hold the boat. Quote
Allen Der Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 45 minutes ago, michaelb said: I have a stake out pole and I have a kayak. I have tried to use it but can't get any purchase on the bottom enough to make any difference. Maybe this is user error; maybe this the condition of the bottom of the lake. I do wonder if the powered poles push down with enough force to hold a kayak no matter what. But at least for a me, a pole that just slides to the bottom, or that I push down as hard as I can push down, doesn't hold the boat. either you're trying to anchor in too deep of water or the bottom is too rocky to penetrate. the stake should go in the bottom at least a foot to hold you. Quote
Fishingmickey Posted April 1, 2020 Posted April 1, 2020 I've got the micro power pole on my kayak and it works great in water that is six feet or less. It has a 8' stake but at least a foot to foot and a half is sticking above the water line when all the way extended. It's good for working lily pad fields and grass flats. It can be a life saver when it is windy and you want to work a particular stretch. FM p.s. it is also good when you just want to stop and re-rig, eat lunch or respond to the call of nature. 1 Quote
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