bma3 Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 I can cast a senko so far that it actually travels back in time and I catch prehistoric fish. 2 Quote
David Dionne Posted May 29, 2020 Posted May 29, 2020 I know this is an old thread but I’m struggling with this too. This is important to me because the lake/pond by my house has a single 100 yard stretch of bank that I’m permitted to fish from. However, I can easily understand how this particular topic be of little to no importance to many. Because it’s all I currently have to fish, I fish this stretch almost every day, and I fish every bit of it. And casting distance not only increases the available fishable water, it also affords different presentations from different positions, to the same little plots of water. Within the range I can reach there are a couple beds of grass I can cast over. In one spot I can cast over two beds with ~1.5oz of lure weight. Switching to maxcuatro 65# with a 3’ 20# FC leader has made all the difference in the world on long cast hooksets as well as dragging those long cast catches through all that grass. But I think because I fish this little stretch so much, the weightless senko (wacky and t-rig), by far, nets me the most bites...I wish this weren’t the case, because for me, casting a 5” beyond ~40 yards gets pretty tricky. But it is what it is. I’d be thrilled if I could get 60 yards, but that’s proved quite challenging. I’m currently looking for “the right” 8’ rod, but I don’t know if it will actually make a difference. A 4 EWG and 5” senko weigh about 10g or 3/8oz. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted May 29, 2020 BassResource.com Administrator Posted May 29, 2020 1 Quote
Black Hawk Basser Posted May 29, 2020 Posted May 29, 2020 1 hour ago, David Dionne said: Switching to maxcuatro 65# I don't think that 65 lb braid is necessary for Senko fishing. I've always done just fine with 20-30 lb. Quote
Smells like fish Posted May 29, 2020 Posted May 29, 2020 I don't undestand why all the crazy responses to this original post??? Anyhow to answer the question this one time I was on Okeechobee facing east and casted a Senko leisurely only to pull in a Goliath Tigerfish from the Congo but it got ate by a great white shark coming across the Atlantic andvi ended up with that 20 footer... Yes I was using heavy braid duh ? 1 Quote
David Dionne Posted May 29, 2020 Posted May 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Pickle_Power said: I don't think that 65 lb braid is necessary for Senko fishing. I've always done just fine with 20-30 lb. It’s not about the #, it’s the diameter. Maxcuatro 65 is the same diameter as 12 floro, the lighter braid dug in way to much for my taste. 65 has been working wonderfully, and it doesn’t struggle with the grass. Ive watched that video many times...and it doesn’t look like he’s casting anywhere near 60 yards. It’s a great video though. Quote
Super User ATA Posted May 29, 2020 Super User Posted May 29, 2020 On 4/28/2017 at 8:06 PM, Glenn said: I just finish watching it for around 10 times, I cant say how timing was perfect, because I wanted to use weightless flukes, Thank You Quote
Ogandrews Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 23 hours ago, David Dionne said: I know this is an old thread but I’m struggling with this too. This is important to me because the lake/pond by my house has a single 100 yard stretch of bank that I’m permitted to fish from. However, I can easily understand how this particular topic be of little to no importance to many. Because it’s all I currently have to fish, I fish this stretch almost every day, and I fish every bit of it. And casting distance not only increases the available fishable water, it also affords different presentations from different positions, to the same little plots of water. Within the range I can reach there are a couple beds of grass I can cast over. In one spot I can cast over two beds with ~1.5oz of lure weight. Switching to maxcuatro 65# with a 3’ 20# FC leader has made all the difference in the world on long cast hooksets as well as dragging those long cast catches through all that grass. But I think because I fish this little stretch so much, the weightless senko (wacky and t-rig), by far, nets me the most bites...I wish this weren’t the case, because for me, casting a 5” beyond ~40 yards gets pretty tricky. But it is what it is. I’d be thrilled if I could get 60 yards, but that’s proved quite challenging. I’m currently looking for “the right” 8’ rod, but I don’t know if it will actually make a difference. A 4 EWG and 5” senko weigh about 10g or 3/8oz. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Reading the beginning of your post I was going to recommend you going to either 50 or 65lbs maxcuatro, as even 65 is smaller than most companies 50lbs. Unless your fishing a super heavy wire hook, try dropping down to a little bit lighter leader and you might get a little more distance as the leader knot will be a bit smaller. Another option I used when shore fishing is switching to a heavier longer spinning rod. I’ve caught a lot of fish on t rigged senkos on my 7’6” st croix triumph mh spinning rod that I usually use to throw jerkbaits and little stuff for pike. I’ve got 20lbs maxcuatro on that, and it can cast an absolute mile while still having decent hook sets due to its length and power. 23 hours ago, Glenn said: Great info in this video. Not enough people stress the importance of casting like this where your rod is almost like a pendulum around the reel. This is especially important in my opinion when throwing really big baits where if you try to throw them really hard your going to end up wearing yourself out and not getting any more distance. When I’m musky fishing, big swimbaiting is the same idea, I will use the weight of the lure and the length of the rod to make the cast and it will go to the other side of the lake without me putting a whole lot of effort into it. Saves your shoulders and allows you to throw these big baits all day long. Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted May 30, 2020 Super User Posted May 30, 2020 I use a 7ft 2in medium heavy rod with either 12 or 15lb copolymer and can cast a senko a long ways. A senko is heavy and streamlined so you can launch it Quote
Heartland Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 An 8' rod with 65lb braid and and 20lb leader to fish a senko on a 100 yard stretch in a pond with two small patches of grass. Interesting choices. 1 Quote
Jaderose Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 I don't pretend to know everything about bass fishing but to me, the idea of needing to bomb a Senko on ANY gear just tells me you are using the wrong lure for the application. I can't imagine a situation where I would need to cast a Senko over 20 yards and that's kinda stretching it 1 Quote
CrankFate Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 On 4/28/2017 at 10:14 PM, .ghoti. said: I can cast a senko farther than i can set the hook. The far casted senko is the hardest hook to set. And its even worse when it gets hit one centimeter below the surface. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted May 30, 2020 Super User Posted May 30, 2020 How Far Can You Cast a Senko? Waaay Past My Target An ”Unweighted” 5-in Senko weighs 3/8 oz. That can be cast a country mile (Country Mile = Statute Mile X 1.2853) Roger Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted May 30, 2020 Super User Posted May 30, 2020 I catch way too many fish past 100' with senko its just very effective. Use line with no stretch and hook-ups arent an issue. Its a rarity to not hook a fish if it bites. Limiting cast to just 60' will be missing out on lots of fish. If a senko is effective at 60' no reason it wont be effective at 120'. My comment based on wacky rig only as thats the only way I fish a senko. Quote
Super User DogBone_384 Posted May 30, 2020 Super User Posted May 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Jaderose said: the idea of needing to bomb a Senko on ANY gear just tells me you are using the wrong lure for the application. What if you're bank fishing? Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted May 30, 2020 Global Moderator Posted May 30, 2020 10 hours ago, Steve S said: Over a mountain D%#*+n it you beat me to it!!! i can throw a pigskin a quarter mile 1 Quote
Super User RoLo Posted May 30, 2020 Super User Posted May 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: D%#*+n it you beat me to it!!! i can throw a pigskin a quarter mile Crazy, that's the same distance I can throw a football. 2 Quote
Super User Teal Posted May 30, 2020 Super User Posted May 30, 2020 I'm all about making a long cast but dang, If i have to sling a finesse bait like a senko 40 plus yards to catch fish, I'm going to another spot. That's a very long cast. Realistically, I dont know how far I can cast a senko. Typically the way I run my boat and move, I dont have to cast that far with a senko or any lure.. maybe 25 yards at the most, but that's still a looooonnng ways.. .only times I've absolutely had to is when I'm bank fishing and then waters down and I need to make a bombing cast out there. Or maybe when I'm deep cranking, but a 1 oz crank bait on a 7'7 medium is child's play. Im not knocking the camp of guys saying they cover the lengths of football fields on a cast with a senko..I'm just saying, "do I need to?" Senko casts pretty well anyways. It's not like an incredible feat to long cast one. I don't have to break out the BFS gear. (Not that i really own any other than a 16 year old pixy) Id be more impressed to see a guy cast that far with a 4" robo worm weightless. Quote
Jonas Staggs Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 i bank fish quite a bit, and casting distance is important to me. aside from getting a longer rod, using braid is the way to go...man can you huck'em with braid. long rod plus braid = cast far af Quote
Jaderose Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 17 hours ago, DogBone_384 said: What if you're bank fishing? I'm making the assumption we are talking about an unweighted Senko. As someone said above, a Senko weighs about 3/8's of an ounce so you can thrown them pretty far. I realize that not everyone has access to great open shoreline or a boat but my opinion (and it is only that..an opinion) still stands. If DID need to do that, I would use a spinning reel with very light braid. Quote
Born 2 fish Posted May 31, 2020 Posted May 31, 2020 I can cast a un weighted senko pretty far with a baitcaster. But I prefer to use my spinning rod with hi viz braid to leader. Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted May 31, 2020 Super User Posted May 31, 2020 The answer to this question depends on the rod. line and the amount of weight I'm using. 25 yards isn't all that much, but it's enough. I'd say keep getting comfortable with the baitcaster and then you can lessen up on the brake a little bit. Quote
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