Tatula SV

[jtesch]

All I can say is "WOW" I'm shocked at how far and how smooth this reel casts out of the box. Only had it out a couple times throwing 5/8 Lipless cranks on 14# sniper but jeez I've got other reels that cost a lot more that can't match it. I know distance isn't everything, but the ease off casting this reel is pretty cool. Wish my SS-SV shared some of these traits

[fishnkamp]

Good to hear. I am a big fan of all of the Daiwa reels for a good reason They perform!

[TX-Deluxe]

48 minutes ago, jtesch said:

All I can say is "WOW" I'm shocked at how far and how smooth this reel casts out of the box. Only had it out a couple times throwing 5/8 Lipless cranks on 14# sniper but jeez I've got other reels that cost a lot more that can't match it. I know distance isn't everything, but the ease off casting this reel is pretty cool. Wish my SS-SV shared some of these traits

I'm curious how it throws an 1/8oz tungsten t-rig. 

Or a weightless senkos.

 Or a small Rapala.

 

[rippin-lips]

37 minutes ago, TX-Deluxe said:

I'm curious how it throws an 1/8oz tungsten t-rig. 

Or a weightless senkos.

 Or a small Rapala.

 

A 5" senko weighs 3/8oz with a hook so it'll cast fine. A 1/8oz weight plus bait and hook will come in over 3/8oz so again it will cast fine. Small Rapala as in what? Like a #4 shad rap that is only 1/8oz. 

[fishnkamp]

The small Rapalas are best fished on a spinning rod.

[fishnkamp]

There are many anglers that prefer to modify and custom build a reel to do that. My normal jerkbait rod is an Abu Garcia Ike delay series 6'4" jerkbait rod. Think of a typical 6'8" rod with a shorter butt to avoid smacking your arm. It fishes baits really well down to about1/4 ot 5/16 ounce baits.  When I want to throw a Rapala floating minnow or those really light baits I customized an Okuma Reflexions spinning rod. It had a great power/action to the rod, but it had a really long handle. I had my custom rod builder do some magic on it and now it is perfect to cast and work those light baits.

 

For most anglers the spinning is an easier answer, however the super finesse baitcasting option is getting very popular.

 

I did mis-speak, I wrote "best fished on a spinning rod".  I should have typed "easiest fished", now that I reflect on it.  

[jtesch]

It's possible that the Tat SV will handle some pretty light weights but it's a bit bulky for most rods I would use for finesse fishing, not that its huge but it's not SV 105 size

[rippin-lips]

38 minutes ago, LowRange said:

 

I prefer baitcasters for crankbaits and there are plenty of spools/reels out there that will allow you to cast down to 1/8 oz total weight really well.  

True but the price to do so is too much for a lot of people. It's a niche market. 

[jtesch]

Agreed, my first impression is that it's a terrific all purpose reel.

[ib_of_the_damned]

I'm pretty interested in this reel too, the XSL model in particular. I was thinking about replacing my Curado 71HG on a En vy Black 7'3" MF for finesse stuff like weightless soft plastics and light t-rigs. 

 

How does this reel cast with light weights like 4" flukes, 1/16-3/32 oz weighted hooks with finesse plastics, 1/8 oz Jerk/Ripbaits, and finesse jigs?

[jtesch]

Haven't tried it with anything remotely light weight yet. Honestly I never planned on it. Now I'm going to give it a try just to satisfy my own curiosity. 

[jtesch]

3 hours ago, LowRange said:

The SS SV has a very strong braking profile. It's not a well liked reel in Daiwa circles.  For some reason people are drawn to the reel only find out it dosen't live up to their expectations.  Try swapping in a TD-Z 103 Type R + spool or TD-Z 105 and 103 spool.  These older Magforce V gigas spools are excelent performers when distance is valued over control.

I may try and swap out spools with A T3-1016 and see what happens. Although the T3 isn't very receptive to Gigas or Steez 103-105 spools. Maybe the SV spool will fit and I'll have a T3-SV and a SS-1016. 

[lmbfisherman]

4 hours ago, LowRange said:

The SS SV has a very strong braking profile. It's not a well liked reel in Daiwa circles.  For some reason people are drawn to the reel only find out it dosen't live up to their expectations.  Try swapping in a TD-Z 103 Type R + spool or TD-Z 105 and 103 spool.  These older Magforce V gigas spools are excelent performers when distance is valued over control.

I have heard the same thing.  Why I didn't pull the trigger on my first sv spool Daiwa.

[lmbfisherman]

8 minutes ago, LowRange said:

 The SS SV can give the other reels a bad rep.  While none of the SV spools are tuned to be extreme distance casters some cast further than others and they all excel at low speed control such as skipping.  Youtube search Daiwa SV skipping.

 

 

That is why I'm eyeing a Tat SV for skipping.  

[jtesch]

The SS SV is way over braked compared to my other SV's . I even think the SV105 is a little over braked. I guess that is the SV concept, removing a lot of backlash needs a little more brake. I wonder I I put boca ceramic bearings in it and run them dry it would speed up the spool a little

[rippin-lips]

1 hour ago, jtesch said:

The SS SV is way over braked compared to my other SV's . I even think the SV105 is a little over braked. I guess that is the SV concept, removing a lot of backlash needs a little more brake. I wonder I I put boca ceramic bearings in it and run them dry it would speed up the spool a little

The easiest way to change the braking profile is by swapping out the inductor spring for a stiffer one. It wakes the spool up a lot. Sometimes too much imo. Swapped the spring on my sv105 and it is a totally different reel. It's definitely taken a little bit to get used to and dial it in to my needs. 

[Big-Bass]

So what spool could be dropped into an SS SV?  I have one and have no complaints but am always interested in making the reel perform better.  Thanks!

[jtesch]

Any 103-105 size TD-Z, Steez, 1016 there is a lot of choices

[jtesch]

The 1016 spool would be a good choice but getting hard to find

[SFL BassHunter]

22 hours ago, TX-Deluxe said:

I'm curious how it throws an 1/8oz tungsten t-rig. 

Or a weightless senkos.

 Or a small Rapala.

 

Fantastic with a 1/8 trig. I throw 1/16oz trigs.

 

Weightless senko no problem at all! The reel is phenomenal.

 

Casting on Monday 1/8oz against 20mph gusts and it was a breeze!

[fishwizzard]

18 hours ago, rippin-lips said:

The easiest way to change the braking profile is by swapping out the inductor spring for a stiffer one. It wakes the spool up a lot. Sometimes too much imo. Swapped the spring on my sv105 and it is a totally different reel. It's definitely taken a little bit to get used to and dial it in to my needs. 

 

What spring did you replace it with?  

 

 

[ib_of_the_damned]

22 hours ago, LowRange said:

 It is a niche market but it is becoming more popular and prices are getting better.  Reels like the Tatula and Black Max have $30 10 gram BFS spools out for them.

 

 

Don't know yet but i'm willing to bet that the Alphas SV would be the better SV reel with the light stuff.  I would think your $200 would be better spent on the Alphas SV / SV 105.

I just ordered the Tatula SV TWS 103 XSL from American Legacy, I had a $25 coupon to redeem. I got it for $174.99! It's on backorder though, but once I get it in and test it out, I'll report back with my findings.

[JustJames]

22 hours ago, jtesch said:

The SS SV is way over braked compared to my other SV's . I even think the SV105 is a little over braked. I guess that is the SV concept, removing a lot of backlash needs a little more brake. I wonder I I put boca ceramic bearings in it and run them dry it would speed up the spool a little

Is that why I can pitch longer distance with my chronarch 50e compare to sv-105? I had been wondering for quite sometime. 

22 hours ago, jtesch said:

The SS SV is way over braked compared to my other SV's . I even think the SV105 is a little over braked. I guess that is the SV concept, removing a lot of backlash needs a little more brake. I wonder I I put boca ceramic bearings in it and run them dry it would speed up the spool a little

Is that why I can pitch longer distance with my chronarch 50e compare to sv-105? I had been wondering for quite sometime. 

[jtesch]

Probably, the SV principle is a much softer spring on a light inducter. The softer spring puts the mag brakes in play much sooner at slower spool speeds. The lighter inducter allows faster spool starts up. That all equals being able to cast lighter lures with less effort and no backlash. It stands to reason that the softer spring and lighter inducter (less momentum) equals less long cast ability but again almost no backlashes. This is strictly my take on the SV concept. TT's review of the SS SV has a good explanation. Think it's a great system as long as you realize what your getting. My problem is that after years of tuning my reels to operate as lose and free as possible, it's a big change using an SV spool. The Tat SV seems to have it all figured out though

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

22 hours ago, rippin-lips said:

The easiest way to change the braking profile is by swapping out the inductor spring for a stiffer one. It wakes the spool up a lot. Sometimes too much imo. Swapped the spring on my sv105 and it is a totally different reel. It's definitely taken a little bit to get used to and dial it in to my needs. 

 

1 hour ago, JustJames said:

Is that why I can pitch longer distance with my chronarch 50e compare to sv-105? I had been wondering for quite sometime. 

As rippin-lips mentioned a stiffer spring will change the pitching abilities of the SV105. I feel the spring has more effect than a bearing upgrade. I upgraded bearings(hedghog Air) first but the pitching didnt increase all that much. A spring is what I would suggest you try first.