"Jig & Twig"

[the reel ess]

Check out Chad Hoover's "jig & twig" presentation. Genius. Has anyone used this before?

 

 

[wdp]

I've done similar but with a shaky head as the bottom contact bait. Worked pretty well & I caught fish on both, but not at same time. 

[the reel ess]

I have a place where the fish are dumb (stunted) and usually very willing that I'll give this a try.

[S. Sass]

Yeah can be done with a lot of stuff that is rigged weedless. Just another variation of a double fluke although fished differently its two baits your offering per one line.  I have used a worm and a fluke, a craw or beaver and a fluke, or two worms etc when searching. 

[A-Jay]

Looks like a drop shot rig with a jig on the end.

 

If the bass are eating the jig mostly, during the fight back to your thumb / net,  there may be a certain amount of collaterally lost Senkos.

Some before they even catch a fish.

I'll  fish either rig separately but probably not at the same time.

Places that I will want to throw that jig rig, the stick bait will surely hang up.

A-Jay 

[JustJames]

 

27 minutes ago, wdp said:

I've done similar but with a shaky head as the bottom contact bait. Worked pretty well & I caught fish on both, but not at same time. 

 

Done that many times too with shaky head or shroom jig head. Like @A-Jaysaid it is in fact a drop shot with a lure instead of weight at the end, so I prefer something more subtle and don't need a lot of movement like shaky head.

[Team9nine]

Idea has been around for a while. "Genius" is not the word I would use. To me, the negatives of this setup have always outweighed the positives...but YMMV 

[the reel ess]

6 minutes ago, Team9nine said:

Idea has been around for a while. "Genius" is not the word I would use. To me, the negatives of this setup have always outweighed the positives...but YMMV 

Yeah, I've tried the double fluke before, but never caught anything, but usually do catch something on the fluke.

 

On the other hand, why do a dropshot with no bait on the bottom when you can do this? Or the variation mentioned above with a shakeyhead?

[A-Jay]

7 minutes ago, the reel ess said:

 

On the other hand, why do a dropshot with no bait on the bottom when you can do this? Or the variation mentioned above with a shakeyhead?

 Fair enough ~ 

I will say that for me a drop shot is a 'finesse' presentation, made on light line, where I'm attempting to solicit a strike from a somewhat neutral or even perhaps negative mood bass.   On the other hand a Jig is meant is be thrown in the Jungle, so all those rules apply.

Combining them seems counter productive.

A-Jay

 

 

 

[RichF]

My dad did this years ago when we would fish for smallmouth in the fall.  He'd tie a tube at the bottom with a goby style dropshot bait up top.  It does work but it's more hassle than it's worth.  The fish bite one or the other, RARELY both.  Like @A-Jay said...you're going to lose quite a few soft plastics also. 

[RoLo]

 

As time rolls on, I see more-&-more saltwater rigs making their way into freshwater.

The age-old "Slip-Sinker Rig" was reborn as the 'Carolina Rig'.

The saltwater "umbrella rig" was re-introduced as an 'Alabama Rig'.

The "Christmas Tree Rig" we used to catch bait for tuna (tinker mackerel)

was reincarnated as a 'Sabiki Rig' ~ ~ ~

 

I always encourage devising you're own rigs for your own purposes, don't wait for someone else.

When your rig finally makes its market debut, you can laugh to yourself....."New Revolution" indeed.

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, RoLo said:

 

As time rolls on, I see more-&-more saltwater rigs making their way into freshwater.

The age-old "Slip-Sinker Rig" was reborn as the 'Carolina Rig'.

The saltwater "umbrella rig" was re-introduced as an 'Alabama Rig'.

The "Christmas Tree Rig" we used to catch bait for tuna (i.e. tinker mackerel)

was reincarnated as a 'Sabiki Rig' ~ ~ ~

 

I always encourage devising you're own rigs for your own purposes, don't wait for someone else.

When your rig finally makes its market debut, you can laugh to yourself, "New Revolution" indeed.

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[WRB]

When the drop shot rig first came out in the late 80's for fresh water bass fishing it was called a stacking rig,  jig for the weight and 2 hooks tied above the jig about 8" apart, later a down shot, then a drop shot.

As Roger correctly notes, this was a salt water rig that dates back decades.

The problem is hook sets, set to hard with light wire hooks and tear them out of the basses mouth, set to light with a jig and miss strikes. Better off using a drop shot with a weight and a jig separately in my opinion.

Tom

 

[reerok]

4 minutes ago, WRB said:

Better off using a drop shot with a weight and a jig separately in my opinion.

Tom

 

Agreed.  Or something that requires equally light hook sets like Ned rig as the weight and drop shot 12" inches above it.

[JustJames]

41 minutes ago, reerok said:

Agreed.  Or something that requires equally light hook sets like Ned rig as the weight and drop shot 12" inches above it.

That why I pair with 1/8 or 3/16 shaky head where I normally apply the same technique and same hook set.

About loosing plastic, if you wacky rig with shrink tube/o-ring or in my case Elaztech plastic type, I don't loose any. The main real concern to me is, if you snag you end up loose 2 rigs at once(Another reason I use owners ultra head weedless type and also gammy ewg #2 hook for Texas style rig weed less)

[MNGeorge]

Interesting, but here in Minnesota, illegal...only one hook allowed. Crankbaits and/or spoons with a treble hook are considered one hook, just in case you were wondering.

[the reel ess]

1 hour ago, MNGeorge said:

Interesting, but here in Minnesota, illegal...only one hook allowed. Crankbaits and/or spoons with a treble hook are considered one hook, just in case you were wondering.

Interesting. But most places I fish are private-no limits or regs. Though I rarely keep any for myself, I keep them all at one buddy's pond because he tells me to. They're badly stunted there.

[Choporoz]

1 hour ago, MNGeorge said:

Interesting, but here in Minnesota, illegal...only one hook allowed. Crankbaits and/or spoons with a treble hook are considered one hook, just in case you were wondering.

Been a few years since I fished in MN, but you got me curious....from MN 2017 regs (Pg 28):

 

TACKLE AND LINES

How many hooks can I use on the end of line?

•You may use up to three single or multiple-pronged hooks on the end of one

fishing line.

•If you use more than one hook, the total length from the first hook to the last hook

must be 9 inches or less.

[wdp]

23 hours ago, JustJames said:

 

 

Done that many times too with shaky head or shroom jig head. Like @A-Jaysaid it is in fact a drop shot with a lure instead of weight at the end, so I prefer something more subtle and don't need a lot of movement like shaky head.

The few times I've done this, I've only used a 1/16 oz shaky head weight and actually drug the rig across the bottom with minimal stops & shaking. This was bank fishing in 10 FOW or less. I had an ultra vibe speed worm on the shaky head & a trick worm on the drop shot hook. 

 

Worked decent. Not the best for casting distance but was doable. I only had about 16-18" between drop shot & shaky head.