Jerkbaits flying away

[CaliBassRipper]

So i was out fishing the other day and a great 20 + fish day. They all came on a jerkbait i was using 8 # fluoro i would re tie after each fish i caught but even doimg that i had a huge slam then the line goes slack. Fish and lure gone. Then i decided to switch to 10# braid after about 30 45 min of not catching one i make a cast and there goes my lure flying into the shallows. Luckily i was able to get it back. I was using a clinch knot with the fluoro and a palomar with braid. Has anyone experienced this and figured a way to combat it. Im guessing ripping on this bait is making the knot tighten to the point of cuttimg the line. Im hoping maybe someone has a better knot or better solution. Thanks and tight lines.

[bigturtle]

Ripping a jerkbait doesnt cut the line, if its being cut its something else. I personally use a uni knot and havnt had it fail on a jerkbait yet.

[CaliBassRipper]

Thats good to know. Ya i have no idea what was going on. both those knots never fail me until now. But do you use the uni on fluoro and braid? And are you using this light of line or heavier.

[MIbassyaker]

If you were up here, I'd say you got probably got "piked" on the first one.

 

Braid can be awfully slick, and while a palomar is the recommended knot, I always do an extra overhand  before before pulling the bait through the loop.

[bigturtle]

20lb braid to 10lb fluoro with alberto, 10lb fluoro to bait with uni

[CaliBassRipper]

2 minutes ago, MIbassyaker said:

If you were up here, I'd say you got probably got "piked".

Ya definitely not the case here. im in central california haha. 

 

 

 

Have you guys used a loop knot. For jerks 

[Team9nine]

Something isn't quite adding up, and I doubt if it's the "ripping." Personally, I use a Palomar for both...and I'd be careful using a loop knot. It will be weaker than most any good knot tied direct. I'd rather do a snap in that instance.

[Tucson]

I  might have missed this but where was it breaking?  If it was at the line/leader point that would help analyze the problem.

[IndianaFinesse]

My guess with the braid is that the line tangled around a guide midcast and the weight and speed of the jerkbait caused the line to break.  Braid has practically no stretch, so it also has no shock absorption.  Happened to me once, with a 25$ megabass jerkbait that I was not lucky enough to find.  Never used braid for any jerkbait over 1/4 ounce since then, switched over to mono.  

 

Don't know what happened with the flouro, probably a bad knot though.

[CaliBassRipper]

1 hour ago, IndianaFinesse said:

My guess with the braid is that the line tangled around a guide midcast and the weight and speed of the jerkbait caused the line to break.  Braid has practically no stretch, so it also has no shock absorption.  Happened to me once, with a 25$ megabass jerkbait that I was not lucky enough to find.  Never used braid for any jerkbait over 1/4 ounce since then, switched over to mono.  

 

Don't know what happened with the flouro, probably a bad knot though.

 

Im not sure if this was the problem it was a 1/4 oz jerk but that may of been a contributimg factor to by the braid

 

 

1 hour ago, Tucson said:

I  might have missed this but where was it breaking?  If it was at the line/leader point that would help analyze the problem.

 

With the braid it was right by the knot not real sure if it was at the knot. And the fluoro the same thing i was at a full cast when i got hit and broke off. But it did look like a clean break.it wasnt frayed or anything.

 

1 hour ago, Team9nine said:

Something isn't quite adding up, and I doubt if it's the "ripping." Personally, I use a Palomar for both...and I'd be careful using a loop knot. It will be weaker than most any good knot tied direct. I'd rather do a snap in that instance.

 

I did forget to mention i was fishing around alot of rocks. After reading all this im starting to think i may have just nicked one when ripping it around. It atleast sounds more plausible then a bad knot Or bad line since it happened on 2 different lines?

[Esoxfreak]

I had a square bill that I lost a few times...found out that It had a burr on the inside of the eye.lol.

[scaleface]

Check your rod guides . I had a cracked one  that caused the same problem . It was a shaving off a little line on each retrieve .

[IndianaFinesse]

52 minutes ago, scaleface said:

Check your rod guides . I had a cracked one  that caused the same problem . It was a shaving off a little line on each retrieve .

That's another possibility, I once had a cracked guide that literally shaved tiny strips of line off each time it went through the guide.  Another rod came with a cracked insert that cut the 50 pound braid on almost every hookset, took losing three frogs to finally figure that one out.  Check them by running a fine cloth or a cotton swab through each guide, if any cloth or cotton catches that guide needs to be replaced.

Check to make sure your line isn't to frayed and that it hasn't dry rotted also, with the flouro.

[CaliBassRipper]

40 minutes ago, IndianaFinesse said:

That's another possibility, I once had a cracked guide that literally shaved tiny strips of line off each time it went through the guide.  Another rod came with a cracked insert that cut the 50 pound braid on almost every hookset, took losing three frogs to finally figure that one out.  Check them by running a fine cloth or a cotton swab through each guide, if any cloth or cotton catches that guide needs to be replaced.

Check to make sure your line isn't to frayed and that it hasn't dry rotted also, with the flouro.

 

That makes alot of sense about the guides il check that. The line should still be good its not very old and kept inside my house. But real good advice.

[Turkey sandwich]

If it isn't a faulty knot, it's almost definitely the guides.  Also, as a note, a traditional clinch knot is not a great choice most of the time because it will slip, especially with smaller diameter line.  For most of my leader to lure connections I prefer a Trilene knot.  It's very similar, super fast, and a whole lot stronger... and you hardly waste any leader.

[dsqui]

Trilene knot or double davys knot but I forgot how exactly to tie the double davys so I stick to the trilene knot 

[Burntorangefan]

Can't help with braid but I only tie a San Diego Jam on fluoro and I don't think it's ever failed.  Great knot!

[CaliBassRipper]

Thanks for the tips. Went back at it this weekend and a great 30+ fish day. Didnt have anything break but kept on a look out for abrasions to the line and not one break so it was prob just the rocks. But the fluoro i was using as a leader just sucked there was a kink it every few ft that was week so i believe i found my solutions.