runt4561 Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 I heard something yesterday that I just cant bring my self to believe. A co-worker of mine, that I really don't know very well said that he fished a tournament many years ago and Bill Dance won it. He said that Bill was caught cheating during that tournament and he had caged fish that he retrieved during the tournament. He said that Bill was banned from tournament fishing at that point and vanished from the public eye for several years. I don't believe this for a minute. I have followed Bill Dance for over 30 years and have been a bass tournament nerd for 20 years. I have never heard this story. I would think that if this was remotely true, I would have heard about it and to my knowledge, Bill Dance has not vanished from the public eye in my 30+ years of following him. As far as I am concerned, I am throwing a BS flag on this rumor. I know everyone has a fish story and I pride myself on being able to weed through the stories and the truth. I got the feeling when I Talked to this guy that he wasn't very knowledgable. Something seemed off. I just wanted to put it out there to see if any of you folks have ever heard of anything similar.
Super User Team9nine Posted April 21, 2017 Super User Posted April 21, 2017 Lol - You see this one pop up every so often. Last time it really spread was about a decade ago - even made it on this site. Bill retired from tourney fishing a long time ago. Without any specifics given by the "accuser," I wouldn't even entertain the discussion. 1
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted April 21, 2017 Super User Posted April 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, runt4561 said: I am throwing a BS flag on this rumor. ... but will repeat it on the internet for thousands of people to read oe 4
runt4561 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Posted April 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Team9nine said: Lol - You see this one pop up every so often. Last time it really spread was about a decade ago - even made it on this site. Bill retired from tourney fishing a long time ago. Without any specifics given by the "accuser," I wouldn't even entertain the discussion. Trust me, I am not putting any credit in this guy. I know there is a lot of knowledge on this site and I just wanted to see if there was anything out there on the topic. thanks for the reply 3 minutes ago, OkobojiEagle said: ... but will repeat it on the internet for thousands of people to read oe Why you busting my chops?????? Isnt this an information sharing forum? If there is information out there to substantiate or disprove this information, I would like to know about it. that is all.
OCdockskipper Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 This accusation is so untrue, everyone knows that if Bill Dance were to reach over the side of his boat to retrieve caged fish, he would inevitably fall in the water and his hat would end up in the cage. By posting this rumor, you are giving it legs, even if you declare that you are not believing it. It would be akin to someone posting that the rumors of you being a pedophile and having kidnapped a couple of children are just not true. Those methods of smearing folks belong in a political campaign, not a bass fishing website. LOCKDOWN!! (oh wait, I am not a moderator...) 6
runt4561 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Posted April 21, 2017 If I offended anyone, I am truly sorry. I did not and still don't see what is wrong with what I posted. There are many topics or questions people have in the fishing world and they come here to present those topics. I was presented this information yesterday and was curious if anyone else had heard anything similar. in reality, I don't think it is any different than any other thread that starts off, "I heard". As in "I heard mercury is coming out with a 400 hp engine" or "I heard KVD likes chocolate chip cookies". 1
Super User the reel ess Posted April 21, 2017 Super User Posted April 21, 2017 I love me some Bill and I'll leave it at that. But I've heard a lot of people, even guys who have shows, say that it's more common for show hosts to "cheat" to put together a decent show each week than it is for them to show only the fish caught. ie: A lot of show are plain fake. Especially when it's really an infomercial for a particular lure. They'll catch their fish on a T rigged worm, but put it on the lure they're hawking. I think that has declined in recent years because the quality of the production is so much better. They don't do 5 different camera angles that appear to be one catch. But they do go to managed fisheries like Bienville and others that produce well to film episodes. They also shoot more than one day wearing the same clothes to make a show. I know 50 or 100 fish days happen, but ask yourself how often. And every bass looks like it swallowed a bowling ball. That's because it's being fed. Would you watch a show where the guy goes to the lake to catch 2 dinks? 1
runt4561 Posted April 21, 2017 Author Posted April 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, the reel ess said: I love me some Bill and I'll leave it at that. But I've heard a lot of people, even guys who have shows, say that it's more common for show hosts to "cheat" to put together a decent show each week than it is for them to show only the fish caught. ie: A lot of show are plain fake. I think that has declined in recent years because the quality of the production is so much better. They don't do 5 different camera angles that appear to be one catch. But they do go to managed fisheries like Bienville and others that produce well to film episodes. They also shoot more than one day wearing the same clothes to make a show. I know 50 or 100 fish days happen, but ask yourself how often. Would you watch a show where the guy goes to the lake to catch 2 dinks? I wouldn't say that these shows are cheating. They are just producing entertainment. The old opinion that they would have other anglers hook fish then the celebrity would reel them in for the camera was common. Honestly I don't care if they did or didn't. I watched those shows for entertainment. If I wanted to see real life fishing I just watched bassmasters. that was more relevant to me than the fishin shows.
Super User the reel ess Posted April 21, 2017 Super User Posted April 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, runt4561 said: I wouldn't say that these shows are cheating. They are just producing entertainment. The old opinion that they would have other anglers hook fish then the celebrity would reel them in for the camera was common. Honestly I don't care if they did or didn't. I watched those shows for entertainment. If I wanted to see real life fishing I just watched bassmasters. that was more relevant to me than the fishin shows. Right. that's why I put it in quotes. This is kinda like wrasslin' vs wrestling. My favorite shows are the ones where I can learn something. I like to see a Hank Parker struggle to catch 10 fish because that's more often the way it is for me. Lately I've seen him combine two shows into one and admit he had a hard time in one of them. When you subtract the commercials and the in-show commercials, there's only maybe 10 minutes of actual fishing.
Super User eyedabassman Posted April 21, 2017 Super User Posted April 21, 2017 If it where true he would not have any sponors let alone have a TV show! I did meet Bill a few times he is just a CLASS ACT!
Super User J Francho Posted April 21, 2017 Super User Posted April 21, 2017 We're done. It is a flat out lie. We aren't a venue for this type of rubbish. 9
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