Armando Arbella Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 I have a st croix mojo bass mh/f rod and was wondering if I can use it for square bills and lipless cranks? Quote
ib_of_the_damned Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 I definitely would! I don't really care for Moderate/Moderate Fast action for cranks. I have done just fine with fast action rods for those. But the fast action rod that I use has a softer tip than most (Phenix Maxim). Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted April 20, 2017 Super User Posted April 20, 2017 Yes you can. I prefer a fast action rod for lipless as I fish them around grass a lot and the moderate action rods don't seem to rip them out of the grass nearly as well as a fast action rod. One thing I do when using a fast action rod with any treble hook lure is to loosen the drag. It helps to play the fish a lot better, and you'll loose less fish that way. Quote
Brett's_daddy Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 Not trying to steal the thread from OP but I'm sort of in the same boat...would a 6'6" MH/F Lightning Rod Shock be suitable for crankbaits? 1 Quote
Poolshark Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 You can throw them on that rod. You CAN throw them on many different rods. But personally my landing ratio is MUCH better with a glass or mod action graphite rod. Nothing pains me more than to hook into a big bass on a square bill and watch it shake the trebles off. I've seen it too many times and it is exactly why I acquired a setup more suited to throw them. Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted April 21, 2017 Super User Posted April 21, 2017 Some love the faster tipped rods like ib_of_the_damned mentioned. However the rod he mentions is really a mof/fast not the typical fast tipped rod. Try you St Croix, I find them a little slower than they say anyway. Quote
Armando Arbella Posted April 21, 2017 Author Posted April 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, fishnkamp said: Some love the faster tipped rods like ib_of_the_damned mentioned. However the rod he mentions is really a mof/fast not the typical fast tipped rod. Try you St Croix, I find them a little slower than they say anyway. all I use is St croix thank you Quote
Super User fishnkamp Posted April 21, 2017 Super User Posted April 21, 2017 I tell you what else that rod may do well and that is to fish swimjigs in like 3/8 or 1/2 with a paddle tail swimbait or 5 inch grub body. I love throwing the Dirty jigs swimjigs and a Keitech swimbait or a kalin 5 inch Lunker grub. Reaction Innovations Skinny Dippers and a belly weighted Gamakatsu swimbait hook should be another bait in your arsenal. They have a cool deadly flutter when you swim them and kill it then twitch and swim it again. I use these in water as deep as 6 or 8 foot. In deeper water I put the Skinny Dippers on a Picasso fish head style swimbait jighead. I fish these baits rigged this way as deep as 30 feet for clear water smallies. I like the 3/8 and 1/2 ounce jigheads. If you have not used these baits try them on that rod. My favorite Dipper colors are sungil, houdini and white trash. In some clearer lakes I also use blue pearl. Quote
ib_of_the_damned Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 38 minutes ago, fishnkamp said: Some love the faster tipped rods like ib_of_the_damned mentioned. However the rod he mentions is really a mof/fast not the typical fast tipped rod. Try you St Croix, I find them a little slower than they say anyway. I've got the 6'10" MH/F Phenix Maxim. It is a softer tip, but I don't think its a mod-fast. It's labelled as fast, but in my experience Phenix have softer tips than most. I would say its probably between a fast and a mod-fast. But in any case I really like the rod, it launches a 1/4oz RES a good distance! Quote
IndianaFinesse Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 A more moderate action rod is preferred for cranks to keep from ripping the treble hooks out of there mouth, which can also be accomplished by a loose drag and stretchy mono or flouro. So yes, it will work fine especially if you keep the drag loose and use stretchy line. 2 Quote
BassThumb Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 It'll work fine. Compared to a moderate-action cranking rod, you'll miss a few strikes and lose a few fish due to the hooks ripping out, but the difference won't be that big of a deal. If it turns out you really enjoy tossing crankbaits, a move to a designed crankbait rod wouldn't be a bad idea. Millions of bass have been caught over the years on fast-action rods. A crankbait rod isn't a necessity, it's a luxury that's fun to fish with and slightly more effective. Quote
flyingmonkie Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 Put some 12# Big Game on there and go to town! Quote
Stephen Selph Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 10 hours ago, Brett's_daddy said: Not trying to steal the thread from OP but I'm sort of in the same boat...would a 6'6" MH/F Lightning Rod Shock be suitable for crankbaits? Check out my thread from yesterday, the consensus is yes! Wish me luck! Quote
Poolshark Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 The rod you mentioned is one of my favorite rods but I can tell you from personal experience that it will cast and retrieve a squarebill crankbait nicely, but I lost way to many nice fish on it to consider it a good rod for throwing anything with a treble hook. Other hand, I think a solid composite rod will land a much better ratio. Just my experience.... Quote
Armando Arbella Posted April 22, 2017 Author Posted April 22, 2017 Thanks to everyone who commented much appreciated I ended up buying a st croix avid x 7ft moderate Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted April 22, 2017 Super User Posted April 22, 2017 On 4/20/2017 at 2:35 PM, Armando Arbella said: I have a st croix mojo bass mh/f rod and was wondering if I can use it for square bills and lipless cranks? Sure can!! In fact if the cover your cranking is grass, it is a BETTER choice than a moderate action cranking rod. 6 hours ago, Armando Arbella said: Thanks to everyone who commented much appreciated I ended up buying a st croix avid x 7ft moderate That's also a fine choice for a great all-purpose casting rod. But if you find it lacking around grass, you already have the fast action rod in your arsenal, and can just use that. Quote
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