checkers behind an Alps MVT seat

[.ghoti.]

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

I got one of those seats for the Vet rod. Feels pretty good. Have you fished one?

[MickD]

Nice look, interesting yet not gaudy.  Very good workmanship!

I am interested how that shape (rear grip) works out.  The swell behind the seat and the mild taper would make it a little large for my hands, I think.  I made one similar to that once and had to take the diameter down, also made some "finger slots" to locally take the effective diameter down.  Since then I'

ve sort of copied the more abrupt taper of the St. Croix grips.

 

[.ghoti.]

Mick, I make grips for my own rods a little larger diameter than most factory rods. Having large hands, most factory grips are too small to be comfortable to me.

 

Mike, I haven't fished the MVT seat long enough to tell, but it feels just like their textouch seat. I need to fish them side by side, but at this point I'd say there in neither a functional nor an ergonomic difference between the two. I really like the textouch seat. It what the Fuji ACS seat could have been. 

[sarcazmo]

4 hours ago, .ghoti. said:

Mick, I make grips for my own rods a little larger diameter than most factory rods. Having large hands, most factory grips are too small to be comfortable to me.

 

Mike, I haven't fished the MVT seat long enough to tell, but it feels just like their textouch seat. I need to fish them side by side, but at this point I'd say there in neither a functional nor an ergonomic difference between the two. I really like the textouch seat. It what the Fuji ACS seat could have been. 

 

I'm not sure I buy the 'micro vibration' claims either.  I've fished this seat a ton, it's actually my favorite.

 

I just prefer the way it feels in my hand, its slightly narrower, kinda reminds me of the seats 13 used on some of their rods.

 

The price though... UGH!  And I gotta buy the hood separate?!  Come on Batson! ;-)  And when will you guys make an exposed blank/blank through spinning seat?  Wish those rapid spin seats came in different diameters without inserts hint hint...

[Jeff H]

4 hours ago, sarcazmo said:

 

 

The price though... UGH!  And I gotta buy the hood separate?!  Come on Batson! ;-) 

What are they going for?

[.ghoti.]

$50

[Batson]

19 hours ago, sarcazmo said:

The price though... UGH!  And I gotta buy the hood separate?!  Come on Batson! ;-)  And when will you guys make an exposed blank/blank through spinning seat?  Wish those rapid spin seats came in different diameters without inserts hint hint...

MVT and TexTouch don’t come with a hood because there’s more than one option for hoods, allows you to customize it without being forced to buy the hood don't want.
 

Though we do have some TexTouch seats on build2fish.com, that are cut short which come with a black hood (it was a special order item that we have leftover stock on). Only in size 11 though but are half off MSRP.
 

The two seats are the same, the only difference is MVT is made with Toray which drives up the cost but lightens the seat and increases the sensitivity.
 

Honestly there hasn’t been enough demand on our end for blank exposed spin seat – our two different ALPS and ForeCast split seats seem to fill requests that we get. Doing the exposed seats is actually pretty expensive, there has to be a separate mold made for each different size in order to have an exposed seat, so we just need to see demand rise to the point to offset those costs. You can pop out the insert on the RAPIDS, but only the 2 sizes so not likely to work for your needs too often.

[MickD]

I doubt if there is a significant difference in sensitivity between an open blank and regular straight spin seat.  Anything that you could feel on the blank at the seat should be transmitted pretty well through the epoxy which bonds the seat to the blank.  Also, you can mount the seat up-loading and put a small ramp turned from rigid poly reel seat shims to the front of the seat, sized just under the diameter of the seat hood, coated with epoxy, and I think you'll find it as sensitive as the blank itself.  The pic shows one done with burl cork, which is a little heavier than the seat shims.  Lighter = more sensitive.  But even with burl, I don't think the differences are significant.

 

Unless you are using braid the sensitivity of the seat/blank/window/etc combination is a moot point.  Won't make any difference no matter what you do.

[Big Bait Fishing]

12 hours ago, MickD said:

I doubt if there is a significant difference in sensitivity between an open blank and regular straight spin seat.  Anything that you could feel on the blank at the seat should be transmitted pretty well through the epoxy which bonds the seat to the blank.  Also, you can mount the seat up-loading and put a small ramp turned from rigid poly reel seat shims to the front of the seat, sized just under the diameter of the seat hood, coated with epoxy, and I think you'll find it as sensitive as the blank itself.  The pic shows one done with burl cork, which is a little heavier than the seat shims.  Lighter = more sensitive.  But even with burl, I don't think the differences are significant.

 

Unless you are using braid the sensitivity of the seat/blank/window/etc combination is a moot point.  Won't make any difference no matter what you do.

last week i picked up 10 rings of green burl for my next rod and 10 rings of brown burl for the rod after that !! i am loving the burl 

On ‎4‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 7:30 AM, .ghoti. said:

Mick, I make grips for my own rods a little larger diameter than most factory rods. Having large hands, most factory grips are too small to be comfortable to me.

 

Mike, I haven't fished the MVT seat long enough to tell, but it feels just like their textouch seat. I need to fish them side by side, but at this point I'd say there in neither a functional nor an ergonomic difference between the two. I really like the textouch seat. It what the Fuji ACS seat could have been. 

what do those reel seats weigh ??

[sarcazmo]

On 4/20/2017 at 8:20 AM, Batson said:

MVT and TexTouch don’t come with a hood because there’s more than one option for hoods, allows you to customize it without being forced to buy the hood don't want.
 

Though we do have some TexTouch seats on build2fish.com, that are cut short which come with a black hood (it was a special order item that we have leftover stock on). Only in size 11 though but are half off MSRP.
 

The two seats are the same, the only difference is MVT is made with Toray which drives up the cost but lightens the seat and increases the sensitivity.
 

Honestly there hasn’t been enough demand on our end for blank exposed spin seat – our two different ALPS and ForeCast split seats seem to fill requests that we get. Doing the exposed seats is actually pretty expensive, there has to be a separate mold made for each different size in order to have an exposed seat, so we just need to see demand rise to the point to offset those costs. You can pop out the insert on the RAPIDS, but only the 2 sizes so not likely to work for your needs too often.

Don't get me wrong, I love the reel seats.  I literally just took two rods off dryers, one with the tex touch seat and one with an MVT seat. (One built on a liberty blank, and another ETEC72MH) I've had a couple people inquire about rods and they always just balk a little bit when they realize the cost of the reel seat is almost half the cost of the blank (built several IMM72MH).  I just tell 'em if it said G. Loomis they wouldn't be complaining 

On 4/20/2017 at 11:35 AM, MickD said:

I doubt if there is a significant difference in sensitivity between an open blank and regular straight spin seat.  Anything that you could feel on the blank at the seat should be transmitted pretty well through the epoxy which bonds the seat to the blank.  Also, you can mount the seat up-loading and put a small ramp turned from rigid poly reel seat shims to the front of the seat, sized just under the diameter of the seat hood, coated with epoxy, and I think you'll find it as sensitive as the blank itself.  The pic shows one done with burl cork, which is a little heavier than the seat shims.  Lighter = more sensitive.  But even with burl, I don't think the differences are significant.

 

Unless you are using braid the sensitivity of the seat/blank/window/etc combination is a moot point.  Won't make any difference no matter what you do.

Won't argue with you there.  I think in my head I just find the certain spinning seat I like to be a bit thinner than the others and I prefer the way it feels.  Purely subjective.  Although it's interesting to see it in so many casting seats and not spinning.  You'd think consumers would want something similar :-)