Lake/dock owners & fisherman very rude no respect

[Ggh123]

We paid a lot of money to build on the lake and pay high property taxes every year and up keep to live on the lake which includes keeping the dock in good shape and paying to keep the Hydrilla out. 

 

My my dad was a fisherman and I grow up fishing. He would never even think about going up to or near a dock to fish. My dad was very respectful of lake owners property and there privacy.  I find fisherman to be very rude and inconsiderate of people who own lake property. We had 1 boat hit and a jet ski by fisherman fishing around our dock at night. I have watch fisherman hook the hooks into the cover of people's boats and go I like it is nothing. 

If they own lake property and put the money into the dock they would feel different and would want the same respect and privacy. People stop being jerks and grow up. 

 

Edited April 15, 2017 by Ggh123
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[Chowderhead]

I understand the frustration and you raise some legitimate concerns. With that said, bashing "fisherman" on a fishing website is likely going to elicit some very strong counterpoints. Be prepared...

[Crappiebasser]

Great first post. Insulting every member of this site will surely help your dock problems.

[Scott F]

You have every right to feel this way. Just like I have every right to hate jerks who drive jet skis.

[flyfisher]

Weak first post....and what fisherman has never fished a dock?  This dude is out there in left field somewhere....

[Fun4Me]

You don't own the water bro!!

 

Sorry, had to say it :). Any fisherman that hooks a boats cover, is a jerk and deserves some grief (and possibly paying for the damage IMO), but if the water is public then fishing by a dock is fine, provided the fishermen are respectful of the dock and what's around it.

[A-Jay]

On ‎4‎/‎15‎/‎2017 at 0:56 PM, Ggh123 said:

We paid a lot of money to build on the lake and pay high property taxes every year and up keep to live on the lake which includes keeping the dock in good shape and paying to keep the Hydrilla out. 

 

My my dad was a fisherman and I grow up fishing. He would never even think about going up to or near a dock to fish. My dad was very respectful of lake owners property and there privacy.  I find fisherman to be very rude and inconsiderate of people who own lake property. We had 1 boat hit and a jet ski by fisherman fishing around our dock at night. I have watch fisherman hook the hooks into the cover of people's boats and go I like it is nothing. 

If they own lake property and put the money into the dock they would feel different and would want the same respect and privacy. People stop being jerks and grow up. 

 

 

Hello and Welcome to Bass Resource ~  Your plight is not uncommon.  

However, to suggest that all fisherman are jerks, may be as unfair as calling all lake front property owners nice people. 

There are always a few bad apples in every bunch, even when the rest of the farm is usually pretty solid. 

There are official & legal steps one can take to address legitimate property damage.

Taking the time to register to this fantastic form, only to make the above post, is probably not one of them.

Hope you can stick around and contribute something constructive. 

A-Jay

 

[Darren.]

Welcome aboard!

 

Sounds like you had a really bad experience.

Hang in there! By my experience, *most* 

fishermen are NOT jerks, although clearly, 

some are. I've had encounters with jerks

on the water, but it is not common.

 

I know when I've fished docks on multi-vehicle

lakes with boat docks, I try to keep my casts low

and under raised boats, or I simply avoid casting

by docked, in-water boats.

[OCdockskipper]

You are correct, there are indeed rude people who fish and do not respect a property owners dock, boat or other possessions.  However, they are not rude because they are fishermen, they are rude because they are inconsiderate.  It just so happens that you only notice these folks when they are fishing & doing damage to your property, at which time you incorrectly conclude that all fishermen are like that.  There are plenty of considerate bass fishermen who might fish around your dock & you would never know, because they do no damage and leave no trace.

 

There are rude property owners who shoot their guns at fisherman, spray them with hoses and call them racist names.  It would be incorrect for me to automatically stereotype you as being part of that group just because you own lake front property.

 

As an aside, if your dad was a bass fisherman & he never fished near docks, then I would suggest that he probably was a horrible fisherman.  Nice guy, but horrible fisherman.

 

 

 

[gim]

I hear ya.  And I'm with ya because not only do my folks own lakeshore property, but I'm a bass fisherman too.  When I'm fishing around docks, I avoid docks with people on or near them.  I try to respect personal shoreline property because the old saying goes "you reap what you sow."  Would I want someone flinging lures at my stuff?  Hell no.  So I don't do it to theirs either.  However, you must realize, that as a lakeshore owner, you do not own the water.  If an angler comes along, they are entitled to that water just as much as you are as long as they do not damage personal property.  Like others have already mentioned above, there are a lot of anglers that don't respect the boundary.  Those are the rude anglers lacking respect that probably damaged your stuff.

 

I hope your jet ski sinks to the bottom of the lake.

[bassguytom]

I don't fish docks when there are people around them. Some fisherman don't cast as well as others and should not fish docks where there is a chance of damaging someone's  personal  properly. Hopefully you don't get any damage to your dock or  personal  property. We as fisherman pay a lot of taxes and fees also and those of us that are the better ones leave a lake or fishing spot better then we found it. Bottom line is you won't be able to stop people from fishing your dock and if you do see them you might just want to politely ask them to be careful casting. By doing that they will probably skip your dock altogether. I could have went an entire diffrent direction here but am from the mind set that you get more with honey then vinegar. Good luck! 

[Scarborough817]

okay let me start by saying I put money into a family cottage, a dock and a boat and I see you're frustrated but consider this.

1. You probably shouldn't have made an account on bass resource (a site for fishermen) to complain about people fishing.
2. Being a person who owns a cottage and fishes docks tell me how do you know this person doesn't pay the same taxes you do?
3. Are you one of the inconsiderate jet ski riders that just blows through no wake zones and cuts everyone else off?
4. How exactly was your boat damaged? because if you hook a boat cover you're not just popping that hook out its being cut out and i seriously doubt people are cutting hooks out and running you're probably mad about a jig bumping up against your precious jet ski which honestly is a lot less damage than you running it into a rock or beaching it when you go to see your friends 

you are the one that needs to grow up 

[Bluebasser86]

I understand the frustration, but you also have to understand the individuals you're complaining about are a select few in a group of mostly good and respectful people. Coming here to complain and insult a group as a whole is not going to do anything productive.

 

 

[flechero]

I understand your complaints... We had a lake house for years... I lived there for a few of them and have seen the good and bad.  I'm also a dock fisherman- but either lucky or careful, as i haven't damaged anything more than my ego by snagging a few boards here and there.  We sustained much more damage from ski boats and jet skis throwing wake into our boathouse and boats in it than we ever got from an occasional hook in the lift sling or wrap around a steering cable.  And we were in a shallow cove.

 

It's a bit like living on a golf course (did that too) you buy the extra glass breakage insurance because only about 1 in 10 people will ring the doorbell and offer to pay for the window.  But you still enjoy living on the course even though it cost a little more. 

 

Sound like you guys might be the perfect family to live across the street from the water. 

[deaknh03]

On 4/15/2017 at 3:59 PM, A-Jay said:

 

Hello and Welcome to Bass Resource ~  Your plight is not uncommon.  

However, to suggest that all fisherman are jerks, may be as unfair as calling all lake front property owners nice people. 

There are always a few bad apples in every bunch, even when the rest of the farm is usually pretty solid. 

There are official & legal steps one can take to address legitimate property damage.

Taking the time to register to this fantastic form, only to make the above post, is probably not one of them.

Hope you can stick around and contribute something constructive. 

A-Jay

 

I like the backhand.

[toledoguy58]

I would like to comment on this....I live on Toledo Bend lake in Texas.  I have an 80 ft dock on the lake.  I have gotten a few new fishing lures over the years from people hanging them on my dock and even got a brand new frog in my boat once.  I have caught many a fish on that frog.  I agree that sometimes people can get on your nerves getting next to the dock when I'm on it with friends and family but that is very rare.  The biggest problem is the inconsiderate "people" (this word used in order not to be banned from the site) on jet ski's and ski boats coming into the cove and causing huge wakes that bash boats up against the dock.  Wish it was legal to treat them the way they deserve to be treated. 

[dwh4784]

This OP is silly. So your dad probably liked to troll for trout in the middle of the lake. That's great, however bass fishermen like to fish the shore and that includes docks.

 

Hooking into people's boat covers is very weak though I'll agree, anyone who does that should get called on the carpet. Sadly, there are DB's in any sport and fishing is not exempt. Trout "fishermen" that use PowerBait and dump stringers full of fish in the sticks next to the launch for instance. I watched that happen last year and those guys had no shame. They kept every fish they were legally obligated to keep all day long and when they went home dumped their stringer next to the launch. Wonderful.

[yosef]

Most of the people fishing on that lake also own docks and pay the same taxes as you , the lake is not owned by anyone.  But snagging a hook on a boat or fishing a dock while someone is on their dock is a bit different , that's where privacy and respect comes in. 

[Redlinerobert]

Judging by the grammatical errors in your litany of complaints, you are either 12 years old or Tipptruck.  Or both. 

 

Either way, welcome to BR.  I'd love to hear what else we are doing wrong, as I assume there's more. 

[fish-fighting-illini]

Personally I find the original post in the thread to be fairly classy. He(or she) didn't necessarily say that all fisherman were bad as many replies implied. He or she didn't not say all fisherman were not bad either.

I think that he or she made a fairly classy post and was ripped for it.

Whether it was a 1st post or not seems irrelevant.

 

Obviously I'm in the minority and will most likely also get ripped as well.

Just saying that I thought that some Bassresource posters could have done better.

 

FFI

[Sam]

GGH, seems this is your first and last post as all you want to do is complain.

 

And that is OK. Would rather have you join us for one post and describe your frustrations with guys and gals damaging your property.

 

If we knew where your private lake is located we can give you some detailed input about any problems or good times others have had on your lake.

 

As for dock fishing, we all do it and it is a staple in our arsenal of locations to fish for bass, crappie and bream.

 

To stop this practice around your dock please post "no fishing" signs. It may not stop all of the bass guys but it will slow down the fishing around your dock.

[OCdockskipper]

43 minutes ago, fish-fighting-illini said:

 He or she didn't not say all fisherman were not bad either.

 

This is a response to your claim, not a "rip".

 

First off, your sentence has 3 negatives, making it very difficult to try to determine what you are trying to say.  Reading it verbatim, you are claiming the OP said ("didn't not say") all fishermen were good ("not bad").  I can't believe you meant that, based on the rest of your sentence.  I am going to assume you were trying to say that the OP said not all fisherman were bad.

 

The OP wrote "I find fisherman to be very rude and inconsiderate of people who own lake property."  There is no way one can read that sentence and infer any other meaning than all fisherman, even if he didn't use the word all.  In that sentence, "All" is implied.

 

If I wrote "I find moderators of Bass Resource to be cross dressers", there is no escape clause in that sentence that excludes Bluebasser86 or Road Warrior.  I have damned all moderators by not excluding any.  The OP did the same, hence the response from the rest of the members.

[fish-fighting-illini]

I started to write it one way then switched mid-stream, not by best job of editing! Lol

I tried to say that the poster didn't specifically say that all fisherman were one way or the other.

i wouldn't be surprised if a large percentage of dock fisherman were inconsiderate. It seems to be an "it's all about about me" society that we live in these days.

 

re: "The OP wrote "I find fisherman to be very rude and inconsiderate of people who own lake property."  There is no way one can read that sentence and infer any other meaning than all fisherman, even if he didn't use the word all.  In that sentence, "All" is implied."

 

Yes there is a way to read that & infer that he doesn't mean all. The glass is half full or half empty would be one example.

Perhaps one of those agreeing to disagree situations.

[.ghoti.]

20 hours ago, OCdockskipper said:

If I wrote "I find moderators of Bass Resource to be cross dressers", there is no escape clause in that sentence that excludes Bluebasser86 or Road Warrior.  I have damned all moderators by not excluding any.  

Hey now. You didn't perhaps stumble across pics of me, posing in a tutu, drunk out of my gourd, did you?

[flechero]

Still on the cheap wine, eh Gary??  lol